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  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Yeah lots of adults have received the third shot and they aren’t clogging the streets up with dead bodies.

    so, we'll check with our family dr about the Phizer booster. Is there any kind of difference in the booster that makes it less safe than the vaccines we got?

    all the bogus nonsense is hurting a lot of people's understanding and decisions.

    @calfoxwc said:

    so, we'll check with our family dr about the Phizer booster. Is there any kind of difference in the booster that makes it less safe than the vaccines we got?

    all the bogus nonsense is hurting a lot of people's understanding and decisions.

    I don’t believe so but I would do some reading to see if it is worth it for you guys. I am younger and in good health so I may pass on the booster but I am still on the fence. I plan on a Germany and Ukraine trip in June and I am sure they will want me to have had it before allowing entry.

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    https://t.me/QNewsOfficialTV/40415

    (For video).

    People seem too keep over looking the fact that the "virus" still has not been isolated.

    So, China (CCP, who unleashed this) sent the molecular structure (yea, they can do that these days) of the "virus" to the Pharma companies to develop their shots against.

    Does this register with folks ?

    This shot isn't based on a crippled virus like real vaccines, it's based on a theoretical molecular structure of "something", provided by the CCP (sans the J & J shot).

    There's no real virus / virus parts in it, just (maybe) parts of whatever molecule the CCP sent, which Pharma companies engineered to have the body reproduce endlessly.

    And this is before any of the other stuff is mixed in.

    Sadly, all this is coming out "Late to the Show" so to speak, but just as sadly it most likely wouldn't have mattered - this will get laughed at and dismissed just like all the rest.

  • "The Emperor's new Clothes" meets "The Emperor's vaccine".

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    Lot of "Elite" fake shots out there   .   .   .   think maybe they know something ?

  • "The Emperor's new Clothes" meets "The Emperor's vaccine".

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    Lot of "Elite" fake shots out there   .   .   .   think maybe they know something ?

    @jafbf said:

    "The Emperor's new Clothes" meets "The Emperor's vaccine".

    image.thumb.png.ad58a2369ea2e862c5cc0cde22c8d16e.png

    Lot of "Elite" fake shots out there   .   .   .   think maybe they know something ?

    So which is these things is more likely:

    - There is a worldwide conspiracy around COVID vaccines trying to get the public to take them so some sinister thing can happen (insert your moron Q fantasy here). This conspiracy is simultaneously so rock solid and structure that thousands of people across the world haven't spilled the beans... but also so inept that a world leader get recorded by news outlets by a fake Dr miming the injection to try to fake it. Something that, again, with news outlets recording would be blatantly obvious to point out.

    or

    - This is either taking at a point right before or after the injection or it was photoshopped

    I wonder which is more likely...

  • @jafbf said:

    "The Emperor's new Clothes" meets "The Emperor's vaccine".

    image.thumb.png.ad58a2369ea2e862c5cc0cde22c8d16e.png

    Lot of "Elite" fake shots out there   .   .   .   think maybe they know something ?

    So which is these things is more likely:

    - There is a worldwide conspiracy around COVID vaccines trying to get the public to take them so some sinister thing can happen (insert your moron Q fantasy here). This conspiracy is simultaneously so rock solid and structure that thousands of people across the world haven't spilled the beans... but also so inept that a world leader get recorded by news outlets by a fake Dr miming the injection to try to fake it. Something that, again, with news outlets recording would be blatantly obvious to point out.

    or

    - This is either taking at a point right before or after the injection or it was photoshopped

    I wonder which is more likely...

    @mld-woody said:

    So which is these things is more likely:

    - There is a worldwide conspiracy around COVID vaccines trying to get the public to take them so some sinister thing can happen (insert your moron Q fantasy here). This conspiracy is simultaneously so rock solid and structure that thousands of people across the world haven't spilled the beans... but also so inept that a world leader get recorded by news outlets by a fake Dr miming the injection to try to fake it. Something that, again, with news outlets recording would be blatantly obvious to point out.

    or

    - This is either taking at a point right before or after the injection or it was photoshopped

    I wonder which is more likely...

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    There are better faked shots out there (Anthony Quinn, Alec Baldwin).

    I'll post them if they fall upon me, but I'm not going to waste time searching - pretty much pointless.

  • @mld-woody said:

    So which is these things is more likely:

    - There is a worldwide conspiracy around COVID vaccines trying to get the public to take them so some sinister thing can happen (insert your moron Q fantasy here). This conspiracy is simultaneously so rock solid and structure that thousands of people across the world haven't spilled the beans... but also so inept that a world leader get recorded by news outlets by a fake Dr miming the injection to try to fake it. Something that, again, with news outlets recording would be blatantly obvious to point out.

    or

    - This is either taking at a point right before or after the injection or it was photoshopped

    I wonder which is more likely...

    image.png.f1971cf568d314343fa508cc53a91ff6.png

    There are better faked shots out there (Anthony Quinn, Alec Baldwin).

    I'll post them if they fall upon me, but I'm not going to waste time searching - pretty much pointless.

    @jafbf said:

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    There are better faked shots out there (Anthony Quinn, Alec Baldwin).

    I'll post them if they fall upon me, but I'm not going to waste time searching - pretty much pointless.

    You're a moron. 

    You understand how you can't simultaneously think there is some massive government conspiracy that all of the most powerful people in the world are in on.... yet they're also so sloppy that Joe blow Q nut can catch the mistakes?

    You understand why that logically doesn't make sense, right?

    I mean I know you don't... But I figured I'd point it out 

  • @jafbf said:

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    There are better faked shots out there (Anthony Quinn, Alec Baldwin).

    I'll post them if they fall upon me, but I'm not going to waste time searching - pretty much pointless.

    You're a moron. 

    You understand how you can't simultaneously think there is some massive government conspiracy that all of the most powerful people in the world are in on.... yet they're also so sloppy that Joe blow Q nut can catch the mistakes?

    You understand why that logically doesn't make sense, right?

    I mean I know you don't... But I figured I'd point it out 

    @mld-woody said:

    You're a moron. You understand how you can't simultaneously think there is some massive government conspiracy that all of the most powerful people in the world are in on.... yet they're also so sloppy that Joe blow Q nut can catch the mistakes?You understand why that logically doesn't make sense, right?I mean I know you don't... But I figured I'd point it out 

    You're a moron.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/commentary/father-jerry-pokorsky/four-stages-communist-diabolical-conspiracy

    The UN Plan to Enslave America...

    The UN Plan to Enslave America... UNITED NATIONS. "You have allowed the evil to grow strong in your country. You will remove from your country this seat of evil [U.N.] that grows strong in your city. The mark of the beast has labeled your city Babylon! Open your heart and eyes now to the truth, before it is too late.

    Sarah Schmidt on Nations United: How the United Nations Is ...

    The Power of Words Nations United: How the United Nations Is Undermining Israel and the West, by Alex Grobman, Balfour Books, 2006, 192 pp.
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  • @baconhound said:

    But we do have speed limits.  We’ve calculated risk benefits and used science to determine best limits for certain areas. For the vast majority of people he vaccination is a prick and very mild, if any, symptoms. That is the science and the risk benefit calculation. Don’t know what the argument is.

    Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

    Fill in your own descriptive term.

    WSS

    * including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

    Fill in your own descriptive term.

    WSS

    * including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

    I also spoke about measured responses. There is a huge difference between getting a shot and outlawing automobiles. The cost/benefit isn’t remotely relatable. To use your example it would be like asking everyone to drive a gray car if it prevented all motor vehicle deaths.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

    Fill in your own descriptive term.

    WSS

    * including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

    I also spoke about measured responses. There is a huge difference between getting a shot and outlawing automobiles. The cost/benefit isn’t remotely relatable. To use your example it would be like asking everyone to drive a gray car if it prevented all motor vehicle deaths.

    @baconhound said:

    I also spoke about measured responses. There is a huge difference between getting a shot and outlawing automobiles. The cost/benefit isn’t remotely relatable. To use your example it would be like asking everyone to drive a gray car if it prevented all motor vehicle deaths.

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

  • @baconhound said:

    I also spoke about measured responses. There is a huge difference between getting a shot and outlawing automobiles. The cost/benefit isn’t remotely relatable. To use your example it would be like asking everyone to drive a gray car if it prevented all motor vehicle deaths.

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

  • @westside-steve said:

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

    @baconhound said:

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

    I don't see where we disagree except that I would put the benefit as significant rather than immeasurable. Still worth having. Probably less than helmet laws and there are people that hate those. Okay

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

    @baconhound said:

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

    For certain populations*

  • @westside-steve said:

    You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

    WSS

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

    @baconhound said:

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

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    1%.

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  • @baconhound said:

    And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

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    1%.

    @jafbf said:

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    1%.

    Statistically these numbers only mean anything if they're compared to the rate at which they'd happen normally without a vaccine. 

    And you'd need to source that 1% claim