★ NFL WEEK 11 ★ Moving on... Detroit NOW +12½ at CLEVELAND, *FOX at 1 Gus Johnson, *LaVar Arrington.
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Remember, the Browns have historically played like crap against the Lions. If I was a betting person, I'd be taking Detroit to cover. Tied the Steelers, and the Ratbirds needed an NFL record 66 yard FG to beat them.
My Dad, RIP, told me back when I was a little kid somewhere around 1970...."root for the Browns and anybody else but the Lions, Rams, & NY Giants."
NFC Detroit is like our AFC Denver. Only time I ever root for the Lions, it's Thanksgiving. Best turkey I ever had was 1983......Steelers Overstuffed
Anybody remember the Browns-Lions game when the Browns got called for pass interference on a Hail Mary by Stafford? I swear that's the only time I've ever seen that called....yep, vs the Browns.
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Oh yes the NFL Thanksgiving Day football games are an American tradition.
The Detroit Lions' all-time record on Thanksgiving Day is 37-42-2.
From 1951-1963 it was only the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lions.
In honor of the most American of holidays, let’s take a quick look back at the times the NFL allowed the Browns take part in the annual tradition.
1966: Dallas Cowboys 26, Browns 14. (I double checked this is it.) For game notes see link. https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/11/23/cleveland-browns-thanksgiving-infrequent
1982: Cowboys 31, Browns 14.
1989: Detroit Lions 13, Browns 10
The third, and to this date final, time the Browns played on Thanksgiving came in head coach Bud Carson’s first season with the team.
Cleveland was just four days removed from a 10-10 with the Kansas City Chiefs, a game that marked the return of head coach Marty Schottenheimer to Cleveland and still the hardest-hitting Browns game we have ever seen.
The Browns were still feeling the impact of that game and it showed as they dropped a 13-10 decision to a Detroit team that entered the game at 2-9.
It has been 28 years since the last time the Browns played on Thanksgiving, and the way things are going it might be another 28 before they make it back. From FANSIDED 3 years ago, I also checked with the NFL HOF site.
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Watching NE @ ATL
Pats defense playing a lot of man against matty ice.
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Another casual observation - one of the things that makes the NE offense so good is their committment to setting, then staying ahead of trends.
The modern NFL has gotten smaller and faster on defense to combat all the 11 and 10 personnel looks. Meanwhile you have the Pats leading the league in 21 and 22 personnel quite a damn bit. They're coming downhill and testing your smaller linebackers and safeties.
Reminds me of an offense like Wisconsins for so long and while they remained so effective. While defenses were getting faster in college, downhill backs from their system thrived.
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On our little pickem tonight on TNF it's NE 17-6--6 the masses going with Belichick. Surprised ?
Oh it's NE -7 and the o/u is about 47.
I'm on ATL +7 and maybe a little bit on over 47.
And it's NE 10-0 1st and ATL just blew it....... well 10-3 maybe. Uh NO GOOD ?
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On our little pickem tonight on TNF it's NE 17-6--6 the masses going with Belichick. Surprised ?
Oh it's NE -7 and the o/u is about 47.
I'm on ATL +7 and maybe a little bit on over 47.
And it's NE 10-0 1st and ATL just blew it....... well 10-3 maybe. Uh NO GOOD ?
On our little pickem tonight on TNF it's NE 17-6--6 the masses going with Belichick. Surprised ?
Oh it's NE -7 and the o/u is about 47.
I'm on ATL +7 and maybe a little bit on over 47.
And it's NE 10-0 1st and ATL just blew it....... well 10-3 maybe. Uh NO GOOD ?
Took NE at -6.5 when the line opened and under 48.
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On our little pickem tonight on TNF it's NE 17-6--6 the masses going with Belichick. Surprised ?
Oh it's NE -7 and the o/u is about 47.
I'm on ATL +7 and maybe a little bit on over 47.
And it's NE 10-0 1st and ATL just blew it....... well 10-3 maybe. Uh NO GOOD ?
Took NE at -6.5 when the line opened and under 48.
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Matt Ryan is getting buried....no time to get set. Mac Jones is looking good.
It's disgusting how good the rookie is fundamentally along with his advanced pocket mechanics.
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I think our starting QB is one beat up guy. Good thing it's only Detroit in 4 days.
From FOX SPORTS....... https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-baker-mayfield-suffering-multiple-injuries-most-beat-up-been
The Athletic reported that Mayfield was limping while walking from the team’s facility to the media session. The Browns quarterback called himself "pretty sore" when he began talking to reporters.
"I’ll be good," Mayfield reiterated. ....... continued.......
Should we post that Monte Python Meme again? I think I will. I'm fine, it's just a scratch.
Oh, and Goff may not play? What's our record against first time QBs? (Hint- it sucks)
Should we post that Monte Python Meme again? I think I will. I'm fine, it's just a scratch.
Oh, and Goff may not play? What's our record against first time QBs? (Hint- it sucks)
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Sure, bad shoulder, bad knee, bad foot. What's to worry? It's only the Lions. Believe me I'm plenty worried....
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It's disgusting how good the rookie is fundamentally along with his advanced pocket mechanics.
I've been busy with emails and turned off the sound....... besides...... the fail-cons look done.
NE 16-0 only a miracle can save Atlanta now, not even Rhett Butler can help.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Cover and under.
That's back to back primetime games that have been under. @mjp28
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On our little pickem tonight on TNF it's NE 17-6--6 the masses going with Belichick. Surprised ?
Oh it's NE -7 and the o/u is about 47.
I'm on ATL +7 and maybe a little bit on over 47.
And it's NE 10-0 1st and ATL just blew it....... well 10-3 maybe. Uh NO GOOD ?
Took NE at -6.5 when the line opened and under 48.
Took NE at -6.5 when the line opened and under 48.
Excellent parlay.
It's disgusting how good the rookie is fundamentally along with his advanced pocket mechanics.
Well trained at Bama. There is a good reason they won a natty with Jones where he set a season NCAA record for completion rate @ 77.4% with 41 TDs and only 4 ints. He also set the NCAA record for passer rating @ 203.1 that same year.
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Took NE at -6.5 when the line opened and under 48.
Excellent parlay.
It's disgusting how good the rookie is fundamentally along with his advanced pocket mechanics.
Well trained at Bama. There is a good reason they won a natty with Jones where he set a season NCAA record for completion rate @ 77.4% with 41 TDs and only 4 ints. He also set the NCAA record for passer rating @ 203.1 that same year.
Excellent parlay.
Well trained at Bama. There is a good reason they won a natty with Jones where he set a season NCAA record for completion rate @ 77.4% with 41 TDs and only 4 ints. He also set the NCAA record for passer rating @ 203.1 that same year.
Yeah, those records are falling every year with the advent of RPO, tempo, space and a longer schedule. That shit doesn't mean quite what it used too. Not saying it isn't impressive, but the things Mac displays from within the IOL of the pocket are what Burrow did at LSU. Things Murray, Baker, Lamar, Allen, Wilson, etc etc never showed and aren't elite at yet.
His grasp of a complex Patriots offense is impressive. Right now he's a better passer than Cam was for that team and Cam was a 10 year vet.
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Excellent parlay.
Well trained at Bama. There is a good reason they won a natty with Jones where he set a season NCAA record for completion rate @ 77.4% with 41 TDs and only 4 ints. He also set the NCAA record for passer rating @ 203.1 that same year.
Yeah, those records are falling every year with the advent of RPO, tempo, space and a longer schedule. That shit doesn't mean quite what it used too. Not saying it isn't impressive, but the things Mac displays from within the IOL of the pocket are what Burrow did at LSU. Things Murray, Baker, Lamar, Allen, Wilson, etc etc never showed and aren't elite at yet.
His grasp of a complex Patriots offense is impressive. Right now he's a better passer than Cam was for that team and Cam was a 10 year vet.
Yeah, those records are falling every year with the advent of RPO, tempo, space and a longer schedule. That shit doesn't mean quite what it used too. Not saying it isn't impressive, but the things Mac displays from within the IOL of the pocket are what Burrow did at LSU. Things Murray, Baker, Lamar, Allen, Wilson, etc etc never showed and aren't elite at yet.
His grasp of a complex Patriots offense is impressive. Right now he's a better passer than Cam was for that team and Cam was a 10 year vet.
He's a really bright guy that absorbs everything very quickly. No surprise there. NE had to be elated he fell to BB.
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It's time to ring the alarm bells for Wills. Sure, injured earlier this season, but if he isn't worth a second contract let alone The Next Joe Thomas.. that draft 2 years ago is looking worse and worse.
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It's time to ring the alarm bells for Wills. Sure, injured earlier this season, but if he isn't worth a second contract let alone The Next Joe Thomas.. that draft 2 years ago is looking worse and worse.
It's time to ring the alarm bells for Wills.
Get back to me about this time next year. In which case, it's possible he supplants Bito in 2 years at guard a cheaper rate (provided he can pull a bito and kick inside)
Midway through his 2nd year with a high ankle after transitioning to LT. Not giving me alarms.... yet.
Edit: what article or video did you find which precipitated your comment ?
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The big NFL injury report news Mr Chubb is off of the covid-19 list may be cleared to play...... we'll see. The Friday morning list:
LionsPlayer Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Jerry Jacobs CB Full Participation in Practice Austin Bryant LB Full Participation in Practice Trey Flowers LB Did Not Participate In Practice Matt Nelson T Limited Participation in Practice Tracy Walker III S Limited Participation in Practice Taylor Decker T Did Not Participate In Practice Mark Gilbert CB Did Not Participate In Practice Jermar Jefferson RB Did Not Participate In Practice D'Andre Swift RB Limited Participation in Practice Jamaal Williams RB Limited Participation in Practice Jared Goff QB Did Not Participate In Practice BrownsPlayer Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Malik Jackson DT Limited Participation in Practice Jarvis Landry WR Limited Participation in Practice Baker Mayfield QB Limited Participation in Practice Donovan Peoples-Jones WR Did Not Participate In Practice Jadeveon Clowney DE Limited Participation in Practice Takkarist McKinley DE Limited Participation in Practice A.J. Green CB Did Not Participate In Practice Troy Hill CB Did Not Participate In Practice Greedy Williams CB Full Participation in Practice Blake Hance G Full Participation in Practice Anthony Schwartz WR Did Not Participate In Practice Myles Garrett DE Full Participation in Practice JC Tretter C Did Not Participate In Practice -
DET has struggled all season against teams that can get + early down yards with the running game and maintain offensive balance. Have to remember their top CB is out for the season.
Ultimately DET and CLE are such volatile teams that it's best to avoid them. But especially when they play each other.
From some stats that I've run across:
**Under: Houston at Tennessee – Houston is averaging 10 points in its last seven games, while Tennessee’s firepower is down minus Derrick Henry and possibly Julio Jones.
Under: Detroit at Cleveland – Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield are two of the more disappointing QB’s and they won’t be helped by heavy wind being in the forecast.
Under: Green Bay at Minnesota – No injured Aaron Jones, but the Packers have held their last seven foes to 22 or fewer points.......... it's not all Aaron Rodgers -but-. he is back in an NFCN game.Detroit at Cleveland – The Lions stomped the Browns, 38-24, at home in 2017. Not much recent history there.
From some stats that I've run across:
**Under: Houston at Tennessee – Houston is averaging 10 points in its last seven games, while Tennessee’s firepower is down minus Derrick Henry and possibly Julio Jones.
Under: Detroit at Cleveland – Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield are two of the more disappointing QB’s and they won’t be helped by heavy wind being in the forecast.
Under: Green Bay at Minnesota – No injured Aaron Jones, but the Packers have held their last seven foes to 22 or fewer points.......... it's not all Aaron Rodgers -but-. he is back in an NFCN game.Detroit at Cleveland – The Lions stomped the Browns, 38-24, at home in 2017. Not much recent history there.
I wonder how these and other games play out this weekend with the injury list and weather ?
The BROWNS certainly fall in that category.
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