★ NFL WEEK 11 ★ Moving on... Detroit NOW +12½ at CLEVELAND, *FOX at 1 Gus Johnson, *LaVar Arrington.

[ATOM]

@mjp28 said:

I've been busy with emails and turned off the sound....... besides...... the fail-cons look done.

NE 16-0 only a miracle can save Atlanta now,  not even Rhett Butler can help.  

i couldnt log into my betting account last night was gonna bet the pats so during the game i was like c'mon falcons prove me wrong 

[Icecube]

@hoorta said:

Remember, the Browns have historically played like crap against the Lions. If I was a betting person, I'd be taking Detroit to cover. Tied the Steelers, and the Ratbirds needed an NFL record 66 yard FG to beat them. 

Browns will destroy the Lions, like they did Cinci.

[mjp28]

I see where Detroit is moving up in the world well to DET +12½ some places up to +13.   https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=681

And Pittsburgh is going up too from PIT +3 to +5½  or +6.  

[Orion]

With Schwartz out....let's say DPJ doesn't play (he's questionable with the groin again).....we'd have Landry as #1 (and he's gimpy), Higgins as #2, Felton as #3 and Ja'Marcus Bradley as the #4 wr.  That's a pretty thin lineup.  

Let's see if Kadrell Hodge outperforms Higgins in the game.  

Obviously, If I'm the Detroit coach, I'm looking to stop the run and have Baker and those receivers try and beat me.

[Unsympathetic]

Goff won't play tomorrow due to an oblique injury - so the opposing quarterback won Britain's Got Talent.  No, that was Susan Boyle and this is Tim Boyle. 

Packers cut Kizer to keep him as their #2 a couple seasons ago.  Big arm but INT-prone in college.. I liked this guy when he was named Spergon Wynn.

[hx214]

@unsympathetic said:

Goff won't play tomorrow due to an oblique injury - so the opposing quarterback won Britain's Got Talent.  No, that was Susan Boyle and this is Tim Boyle. 

Packers cut Kizer to keep him as their #2 a couple seasons ago.  Big arm but INT-prone in college.. I liked this guy when he was named Spergon Wynn.

Bad news is we've been historically bad against QB's like this guy in the past couple years. 

Goff looked so bad against the Steelers... This is probably an upgrade for the Lions...

[calfoxwc]

The Browns have to beat Detroit or I start working on my stupid NFL draft.....

[mjp28]

This game means a lot to the Cleveland BROWNS so I went digging deeper online for some additional stats on the game.   Detroit would love to have a win too anywhere anyway.

From our friends at Vegasinsider.com available free online.  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/

DETROIT LIONS BETTING ANALYSIS

Straight Up - SU, Against the Spread - ATS, Over-Under (O/U)

• SU: 0-8-1
• ATS: 5-4
• O/U: 3-6
• ATS - Home: 2-2
• ATS - Away: 3-2

Jared Goff is doubtful to play this week with an oblique injury. That would make either Tim Boyle or David Blough the starter on Sunday. Boyle has yet to throw a pass this season and has been on injured reserve with a thumb injury. He only threw four passes during his time in Green Bay, but he is expected to start over the more experienced Blough.

Detroit would love to lean on the ground game this week. However, Jermar Jefferson is out, and Jamaal Williams is listed as questionable. D’Andre Swift should receive the bulk of the carries, but he is averaging just 3.4 YPC.

Swift and T.J. Hockenson are the top two receivers on the Lions. The receivers are improving though as Kalif Raymond and Amon-Ra St. Brown have looked better with more experience.

It looks like the Lions will be without Trey Flowers and Tracy Walker III this week. Detroit’s defense looked better last week against Pittsburgh though, and the front seven had success slowing down the Steelers’ ground game. They will need to do the same thing this week to stay within the number against Cleveland.

CLEVELAND BROWNS BETTING ANALYSIS

Straight Up - SU, Against the Spread - ATS, Over-Under (O/U)

• SU: 5-5
• ATS: 5-5
• O/U: 6-4
• ATS - Home: 2-3
• ATS - Away: 3-2

Mayfield has not had a great season under center for Cleveland. Mayfield has dealt with a few different injuries, limiting his production despite the presence of one of the best ground games in the NFL. He was awful last week against New England, and he hasn’t thrown for at least 240 yards in a game since October 10.

Mayfield might not have Donovan Peoples-Jones available this week due to a groin injury, and Jarvis Landryhasn’t been the difference maker we have seem in the past. Anthony Schwartz is out too, so we could see a lot more targets to Austin Hooper and David Njoku.

This ground game should be more productive with the return of Chubb. Chubb has missed three games, but he is still one of the best running backs in the league with 721 yards and six touchdowns, averaging 6.0 YPC. D’Ernest Johnson will continue to see a steady dose of carries too with Kareem Hunt sidelined.

Cleveland ranks sixth in total defense. The Browns are allowing just 323.9 YPG, as this front seven has been very good at stopping the run. They are surrendering 3.8 YPG and 94.7 YPG as Myles Garrett is looking to usurp Aaron Donald to become known as the best defensive lineman in the NFL.

INSIDE THE STATS - CLEVELAND BROWNS

• Record: 5-5
• Division Standing: 4th - AFC North
• Points Scored: 231
• Points Allowed: 241
• PS/G: 23.1 (18th)
• PA/G: 24.1 (20th)

KEY PLAYERS TO WATCH

• DET: D'Andre Swift - RB (123 carries, 419 yards, 3 TD)
• DET: T.J. Hockenson - TE (48 catches, 448 yards, 2 TD)
• CLE: Nick Chubb - RB (120 carries, 721 yards, 6 TD)
• CLE: Baker Mayfield - QB (161/246, 1,990 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT)

INSIDE THE STATS - DETROIT LIONS

• Record: 0-8-1
• Division Standing: 4th - NFC North
• Points Scored: 150
• Points Allowed: 260
• PS/G: 16.7 (29th)
• PA/G: 28.9 (31st)

DETROIT LIONS VS. CLEVELAND BROWNS BETTING TRENDS

• Detroit has lost 12 of its last 14 games.
• Detroit has covered the spread in three straight road games.
• Detroit has gone UNDER the point total in six of its last seven games.

[mjp28]

And another opinion on today's game from VI.

DETROIT LIONS VS. CLEVELAND BROWNS PREDICTIONS, ODDS, PICKS

 

Nov. 21, 2021

Jonathan Willis
VI Betting Expert
VegasInsider.com

 

SCORE PREDICTION   Browns 30, Lions 20

BEST BETS  Over

DETROIT LIONS VS. CLEVELAND BROWNS PREDICTIONS

It’s been a rough last month for the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland has gone 2-4 after winning three of its first four games. The Browns were blasted by both Arizona and New England, and they will look to move above .500 once more against the Detroit Lions this Sunday. Detroit nearly beat Pittsburgh to claim its first win of the season last week, but the Lions will find it much harder to win in Cleveland.

Cleveland is starting to get a little healthier. Nick Chubb was activated off the COVID list on Friday, and Baker Mayfield doesn’t have an injury designation going into this game. However, the Browns will still have some trouble putting away Detroit this week.

[gumby73]

@unsympathetic said:

Goff won't play tomorrow  - so the opposing quarterback won Britain's Got Talent.  No, that was Susan Boyle and this is Tim Boyle.  ?

Big arm but INT-prone in college.. I liked this guy when he was named Spergon Wynn.

    

@calfoxwc said:

The Browns have to beat Detroit or I start working on my stupid NFL draft.....

[Unsympathetic]

When you have a chance to pay a special teams gunner / TE / H-back / 3rd string QB $40 million guaranteed, you pay that man!

Sean Payton, you have a call on the just-admit-you-made-a-mistake phone.  Taysom Hill is the running QB whose play deserves all the trash people assert/wish on Lamar Jackson..

[tiamat63]

Taysom Hill reminds me - if any of you kids want to get a pick up game of Madden in, holler at me.  In need of knocking off some serious rust before I join this online franchise.