when a win feels like a loss
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Zombo said:
Sometimes ya gotta win ugly.
Take the W and move on.
Z
Z, that was not winning ugly... I'll call it "winning stupid". Baker was crippled, playing like shit... It was time to put in the relief pitcher (Keenum).... We barely beat a crap team playing their backup QB....
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Zombo said:
Sometimes ya gotta win ugly.
Take the W and move on.
Z
The problem with that is the team you beat is the worst team in the league
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Zombo said:
Sometimes ya gotta win ugly.
Take the W and move on.
Z
Exactly, how do the Bills, Titans and Packers feel today losing to "inferior" opponents?
Exactly, how do the Bills, Titans and Packers feel today losing to "inferior" opponents?
To quote Chris Berman "that's why they play the game".
However- Stef- in his infinite wisdom trotted out a one armed, one legged (maybe) qb to (barely) beat a winless team.
Zombo said:
Team win.
I'll take it.
Z
Yeah Z, so will I. However- just an observation. Who's running this team- Baker, or Stefanski? The guy was obviously limping- throwing passes that weren't in the same area codes as his WIDE OPEN WRs. If you think this level of play out of Baker is going to be good enough to beat the Ravens- you're out of your damn mind.
When your sub par play two weeks running is obviously hurting the TEAM Baker- time to swallow your ego and let Keenum play until you're 1\2 healthy.
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Zombo said:
The defense got two turnovers and held them to 10 points. Our leader gutted it out and got us W.
Chubb and his blockers get the game balls, but definitely a team win.
Z
Plus last night we got to see Conan Herbert at work in LA on Pittspuke.?
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We've had so many lose that we should have won, I'll take the win.
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Zombo said:
The defense got two turnovers and held them to 10 points. Our leader gutted it out and got us W.
Chubb and his blockers get the game balls, but definitely a team win.
Z
Plus last night we got to see Conan Herbert at work in LA on Pittspuke.?
Plus last night we got to see Conan Herbert at work in LA on Pittspuke.?
I was disgusted watching the almost lucky Stoolers nearly pull that game off.. Brandon Staley makes Joe Woods look like genius on Defense...
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Zombo said:
Stefanski is running the team.
Baker is the starting qb.
Nice win.
Now take down the Ravens and get a much-needed bye.
Huge game this week, I'll expect them to meet the challenge.
Z
Z- actually the unbiased opinion, just copied it from another thread...
The NFL.com take.... this isn't the only area with the same opinion. Pluto said sit him, Gregg Pruitt- ditto.. USA Today... ditto...
"Baker Mayfield... has reached a new low in his NFL career. Mayfield is clearly injured, yet he insists on gutting out his multiple ailments, and Kevin Stefanski is abiding to the detriment of his offense. Mayfield was again dreadful, completing 15 of 29 passes for 176 yards, one touchdown (a short pass in the flats to Chubb) and two interceptions. Many of his incompletions were to open receivers Mayfield simply missed, the interceptions were typically ugly, and the plays in between inspired so little confidence in Cleveland's offense as it currently exists, Browns fans rained boos down on the field -- (mostly aimed at Stefanski for not pulling a gimpy Baker) while winning the game. Gone are the days of Stefanski's sharp, balanced and unpredictable attack. In its place is an offense stuck in 5 feet of mud with a banged-up quarterback trying to pull them out of it. Folks wearing brown and orange are seriously considering a future without Mayfield, who looks nothing like the quarterback who helped Cleveland win a playoff game last year. It's tough to evaluate him because of his injuries, but it's even more difficult to understand why the Browns aren't turning to Case Keenum just to give Mayfield a break."
MHO? Guts only get you so far... And I agree with Terry Pluto- and a bunch of others- that it was f'n STUPID to play Baker against the Lions.. You want to ride him Kev? You're Captaining the Titanic this year if you do. The last two Mayfield performances could have been equaled by some no-name third string nobody.... At least Baker admitted he played like crap.. Sorry Z I'm not expecting a miracle recovery before Sunday night.
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With a lot of key players coming back and Baker’s wife insisting Browns players play “tougher”… I expect a win Sunday night.
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Zombo said:
Sometimes ya gotta win ugly.
Take the W and move on.
Z
Exactly !
How many times have the BROWNS played a fantastic game versus a good team and lost ? Lost count ?
I'll take an ugly win any day..... especially against Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
GO BROWNS !
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2nd Ravens game ? please..
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When the Browns placed Phillips on the injured reserve, they waited till the season - so there was a chance that he could return. It could be possible that Phillips is foreshadowing a November return to the football field.
Phillips was the team’s backup MIKE linebacker and potentially could move around a bit. The Browns defense will gladly have a spot for him in the rotation when he is able to return, whenever that is. Such move would allow the team to get an extra boost potentially this season down the road.
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Zombo said:
We don't need a miracle, we need to continue a winning formula while his body recovers. He's capable of putting it together, as we saw in Cincinnati.
I'm somewhat confused by this.
Continue a winning formula? Browns are 3-3 over the last six games.
Baker is capable of "putting it together, as we saw in Cincinnati."? That's the only game in those last six games where the Browns have scored more than 17 points.
Baker's body recovering? Physically, he keeps getting beaten up more every week.
Zombo, I like your optimism, but you're whistling past the Browns 2021 graveyard.
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Zombo said:
We've won 2 of the last three since ya'll declared him, and the season, dead.
Z
That is true.
We'll see how this last place AFC North team looks three weeks from today, after the next two games vs Baltimore.
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Zombo said:
Well, that's because you enjoy being a shithead. (I mean that in the nicest way)
We don't need a miracle, we need to continue a winning formula while his body recovers. He's capable of putting it together, as we saw in Cincinnati. And now with another week to heal, and Conklin and Hunt back, there's is no reason why Baker and the Browns can't rise to the challenge this Sunday Night.
Z
I may be a shithead, but I'm also a realist. I also know firsthand (from my wife's fractured humerus head) how painful that can be if you're unlucky enough to have one. Now Sir Baker of the Bum Knees &Foot has that to deal with too...
Hey, have you consulted a Voodoo Doctor to stick pins into Lamar so he's still too sick to play Sunday night? That will help.
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Zombo said:
We've won 2 of the last three since ya'll declared him, and the season, dead.
Z
That is true.
We'll see how this last place AFC North team looks three weeks from today, after the next two games vs Baltimore.
That is true.
We'll see how this last place AFC North team looks three weeks from today, after the next two games vs Baltimore.
The Browns still control their own destiny and the next 3 weeks will absolutely define that destiny. Sunday night will be the tone setter for the month and if they somehow find a way to win it, watch out because the stoke level in Berea will be massive and a roll could be coming.
Lose it, and well......
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That is true.
We'll see how this last place AFC North team looks three weeks from today, after the next two games vs Baltimore.
The Browns still control their own destiny and the next 3 weeks will absolutely define that destiny. Sunday night will be the tone setter for the month and if they somehow find a way to win it, watch out because the stoke level in Berea will be massive and a roll could be coming.
Lose it, and well......
The Browns still control their own destiny and the next 3 weeks will absolutely define that destiny. Sunday night will be the tone setter for the month and if they somehow find a way to win it, watch out because the stoke level in Berea will be massive and a roll could be coming.
Lose it, and well......
The Browns do not need to go 6-0 down the stretch to win the AFC North, but with every thing going on lately with this team, it sure feels like a loss Sunday night will pretty much end the Browns playoff chances. Winning the AFC North seems way more of a possible path than getting a Wild Card spot, considering how many WC contenders have beaten the Browns already.
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