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  • @kvoethe said:

    And people shot and killed are diagnosed with lead poisoning...doesnt mean all the cases are really covid.

    So what is the accurate number 100%. 97%. 93% 90% lower ?

    And I just happened to be in a rather large 8 floor hospital 4 different times in 2020 in March, June, October, November right through the covid-19 MESS.

    They were packed with whole floors dedicated to covid only it was very real no bs numbers.  I got to talk with a lot of nurses and staff about what was going on here and elsewhere and got a pretty good idea on things....... not political generated garbage on a few outlets.

    But think what you want...... the truth is coming out in spades now on what has been going on around the world ?.   Not just here.

    Oh BTW I never had covid.  

    @mjp28 said:

    They were packed with whole floors dedicated to covid only it was very real no bs numbers.  I got to talk with a lot of nurses and staff about what was going on here and elsewhere and got a pretty good idea on things....... not political generated garbage on a few outlets.

    Did the nurses and staff you talked to that have a good idea on things also tell you that 30% of them are unvaccinated?

  • yet.....

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-are-the-educated-more-likely-to-be-against-vaccines

    Why Are So Many Anti-Vaxxers in Educated, Affluent Areas?

    Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates can have large pockets of people against vaccines. Isn't that counterintuitive?

    **************************

  • LOL... South Park in the future.

    "Kenny died of COVID...it's a new variant, the COVID Delta Plus Rewards Program Variant"

    Cartman is a Rabbi.

  • @mjp28 said:

    They were packed with whole floors dedicated to covid only it was very real no bs numbers.  I got to talk with a lot of nurses and staff about what was going on here and elsewhere and got a pretty good idea on things....... not political generated garbage on a few outlets.

    Did the nurses and staff you talked to that have a good idea on things also tell you that 30% of them are unvaccinated?

    @gorka said:

    Did the nurses and staff you talked to that have a good idea on things also tell you that 30% of them are unvaccinated?

    This is the medical community response to that unfortunate situation...... and it's driven by the Trump-ettes of the country.  Something medical has been turned into a political weapon...... it's as simple as that !    https://thisisourshot.info/about-us.  

    OH and your WHO link please ?

    Scientific innovation has led to the discovery of vaccines that are highly effective at preventing illness from COVID-19. However, targeted disinformation paired with decades of structural inequality and mistrust in traditional institutions have contributed to the rise of vaccine hesitancy, particularly among communities of color. This threatens our future.......

  • Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates canhave large pockets of people against vaccines.

    Good thing that stereotypes don’t exist 

  • Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates canhave large pockets of people against vaccines.

    Good thing that stereotypes don’t exist 

    @browns149 said:

    Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates canhave large pockets of people against vaccines.

    Good thing that stereotypes don’t exist 

    Most state statistics have the african american population with the lowest vaxx rates

  • There are all kinds of numbers thrown about but this pretty much sums it up from July 2021 but would be close today.

    Put your own meaning to the data but one thing is pretty clear.

    Screenshot_2021-12-03_230453.jpg

  • fauci needs to be prosecuted for lies he told Congress.

    meanwhile, the gov can shove their "database" and their

    mandates. We got both phizer covid vaccs, and the booster. No problem at all.

    But a mandate? people MUST have the RIGHT to refuse.

    https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-pfizer-vaccine-injury-data-ordered-released-by-judge-shows-shocking-risk-level

    Horowitz: Pfizer vaccine injury data ordered released by judge shows shocking risk level

  • Always consider the source........

    Blaze Media is an American conservative media company. It was founded in 2018 as a result of a merger between TheBlaze and CRTV LLC. The company's leadership consists of CEO Tyler Cardon and president Gaston Mooney. Wikipedia
    Founder: Glenn Beck
    Founded: December 3, 2018
    Customer service: 1 (866) 304-4978
     
    Headquarters: Irving, TX
  • @gorka said:

    Did the nurses and staff you talked to that have a good idea on things also tell you that 30% of them are unvaccinated?

    This is the medical community response to that unfortunate situation...... and it's driven by the Trump-ettes of the country.  Something medical has been turned into a political weapon...... it's as simple as that !    https://thisisourshot.info/about-us.  

    OH and your WHO link please ?

    Scientific innovation has led to the discovery of vaccines that are highly effective at preventing illness from COVID-19. However, targeted disinformation paired with decades of structural inequality and mistrust in traditional institutions have contributed to the rise of vaccine hesitancy, particularly among communities of color. This threatens our future.......

    @mjp28 said:

    This is the medical community response to that unfortunate situation...... and it's driven by the Trump-ettes of the country.  Something medical has been turned into a political weapon...... it's as simple as that !    https://thisisourshot.info/about-us.  

    OH and your WHO link please ?

    All you need to do is GOOGLE "30% health care workers remain unvaccinated".

    Scientific innovation has led to the discovery of vaccines that are highly effective at preventing illness from COVID-19. However, targeted disinformation paired with decades of structural inequality and mistrust in traditional institutions have contributed to the rise of vaccine hesitancy, particularly among communities of color. This threatens our future.......

    I navigated through your link and found no mention of "Trump-etts" driving anything. Please provide direct link.

    No, it's not "as simple as that".   Some of the driving force behind these so called "anti-vaxxers" is not solely about the effectiveness of the vaccine itself, but rather the rejection of imposed MANDATES by states and proposed by Biden.  And yes, misinformation does happen as a result.

    I don't think there's a "Trump-ett" or an "Anti-Vaxxer" that gives a shit if mjp28 chooses to get jabbed.

    Show of hands...do any of you anti vaxxers care if mjp28 gets jabbed?

    This tired old song and dance about of it being a "political weapon" is a copout. It's about having the right to make your own decision...it's as simple as that.

    I'm really disappointed in you. You started on the right foot with a good post then followed up with "Trumpette" rhetoric like good libtards do. Sigh.

  • yet.....

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-are-the-educated-more-likely-to-be-against-vaccines

    Why Are So Many Anti-Vaxxers in Educated, Affluent Areas?

    Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates can have large pockets of people against vaccines. Isn't that counterintuitive?

    **************************

    @calfoxwc said:

    yet.....

    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-are-the-educated-more-likely-to-be-against-vaccines

    Why Are So Many Anti-Vaxxers in Educated, Affluent Areas?

    Studies show that affluent urban areas with high education rates can have large pockets of people against vaccines. Isn't that counterintuitive?

    **************************

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    Woody contemplating what to say.

  • Not believing established medical science and legitimate scientific institutions while believing whatever the fuck you see on Facebook that supports your own reality = not gullible

    @mld-woody said:

    Not believing established medical science and legitimate scientific institutions while believing whatever the fuck you see on Facebook that supports your own reality = not gullible

  • @mjp28 said:

    This is the medical community response to that unfortunate situation...... and it's driven by the Trump-ettes of the country.  Something medical has been turned into a political weapon...... it's as simple as that !    https://thisisourshot.info/about-us.  

    OH and your WHO link please ?

    All you need to do is GOOGLE "30% health care workers remain unvaccinated".

    Scientific innovation has led to the discovery of vaccines that are highly effective at preventing illness from COVID-19. However, targeted disinformation paired with decades of structural inequality and mistrust in traditional institutions have contributed to the rise of vaccine hesitancy, particularly among communities of color. This threatens our future.......

    I navigated through your link and found no mention of "Trump-etts" driving anything. Please provide direct link.

    No, it's not "as simple as that".   Some of the driving force behind these so called "anti-vaxxers" is not solely about the effectiveness of the vaccine itself, but rather the rejection of imposed MANDATES by states and proposed by Biden.  And yes, misinformation does happen as a result.

    I don't think there's a "Trump-ett" or an "Anti-Vaxxer" that gives a shit if mjp28 chooses to get jabbed.

    Show of hands...do any of you anti vaxxers care if mjp28 gets jabbed?

    This tired old song and dance about of it being a "political weapon" is a copout. It's about having the right to make your own decision...it's as simple as that.

    I'm really disappointed in you. You started on the right foot with a good post then followed up with "Trumpette" rhetoric like good libtards do. Sigh.

    @gorka said:

    I navigated through your link and found no mention of "Trump-etts" driving anything. Please provide direct link.

    No, it's not "as simple as that".   Some of the driving force behind these so called "anti-vaxxers" is not solely about the effectiveness of the vaccine itself, but rather the rejection of imposed MANDATES by states and proposed by Biden.  And yes, misinformation does happen as a result.

    I don't think there's a "Trump-ett" or an "Anti-Vaxxer" that gives a shit if mjp28 chooses to get jabbed.

    Show of hands...do any of you anti vaxxers care if mjp28 gets jabbed?

    This tired old song and dance about of it being a "political weapon" is a copout. It's about having the right to make your own decision...it's as simple as that.

    I'm really disappointed in you. You started on the right foot with a good post then followed up with "Trumpette" rhetoric like good libtards do. Sigh.

    Oh yes my little axiom I guess about a small circle of nurses that like to tell President Biden jokes and put up funny cartoons because they loved ? Trump and now can't get over the.........well you know the appropriate 0-60 in courts all over the United States of America  including the SCOTUS who practically laughed Trump and his lawyers out of court because he had ZERO evidence about his <cough, big lie cough>  flimsy  attempt...... well you know it was everywhere on TV, radio, newspapers, internet.

    I really don't want to plow those manure fields again.  Whew did that stink the first time.

    But that small minority of nurses who used to be stanch Trump supporters and denounce masks and vaccines are now slowly coming back, they see the real facts and truth about this virus.   The last diehard holdouts are basically despised  by the majority of the medical community, patients, their families  about how they continue their Facebook garbage...... but it has declined somewhat recently. 

    It has nothing to do with your little mp jabs stuff I have no idea where you came up with that.  Oh well that's no big deal.  

    It's just a shame too that prior to covid-19 they were a tight group now a small minority of them have caused so much division.  Hopefully it will heal in time. 

  • Always consider the source........

    Blaze Media is an American conservative media company. It was founded in 2018 as a result of a merger between TheBlaze and CRTV LLC. The company's leadership consists of CEO Tyler Cardon and president Gaston Mooney. Wikipedia
    Founder: Glenn Beck
    Founded: December 3, 2018
    Customer service: 1 (866) 304-4978
     
    Headquarters: Irving, TX

    @mjp28 said:

    Always consider the source........

    Blaze Media is an American conservative media company. It was founded in 2018 as a result of a merger between TheBlaze and CRTV LLC. The company's leadership consists of CEO Tyler Cardon and president Gaston Mooney. Wikipedia
    Founder: Glenn Beck
    Founded: December 3, 2018
    Customer service: 1 (866) 304-4978
     
    Headquarters: Irving, TX

    And?

    WSS 

  • @mjp28 said:

    Always consider the source........

    Blaze Media is an American conservative media company. It was founded in 2018 as a result of a merger between TheBlaze and CRTV LLC. The company's leadership consists of CEO Tyler Cardon and president Gaston Mooney. Wikipedia
    Founder: Glenn Beck
    Founded: December 3, 2018
    Customer service: 1 (866) 304-4978
     
    Headquarters: Irving, TX

    And?

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    And?

    WSS 

    There's left and right and then there are the far out on both sides.  -so-   when you hear, read, see something just consider the source when you evaluate it.  That's all.

    And Mr Beck et. al. is certainly a right winger.

    Like my one boss used to say   " he might be a good father and husband but......".    You can fill out the rest.   😉

  • @westside-steve said:

    And?

    WSS 

    There's left and right and then there are the far out on both sides.  -so-   when you hear, read, see something just consider the source when you evaluate it.  That's all.

    And Mr Beck et. al. is certainly a right winger.

    Like my one boss used to say   " he might be a good father and husband but......".    You can fill out the rest.   😉

    @mjp28 said:

    There's left and right and then there are the far out on both sides.  -so-   when you hear, read, see something just consider the source when you evaluate it.  That's all.

    And Mr Beck et. al. is certainly a right winger.

    Like my one boss used to say   " he might be a good father and husband but......".    You can fill out the rest.   😉

    It's always a good idea to consider the source but it's a bad idea to assume out of hand that everything that the people that disagree with you say is a lie. The angle being presented on a story maybe left or right but it doesn't mean the story is false.

    And just for the record resistance to tyranny or mandates or whatever, it's not necessarily a right-wing idea. I would venture a guess that most dictatorships are also as far as left as you can get. Communism / socialism is a big seller for tyrants.

    WSS 

  • @mjp28 said:

    There's left and right and then there are the far out on both sides.  -so-   when you hear, read, see something just consider the source when you evaluate it.  That's all.

    And Mr Beck et. al. is certainly a right winger.

    Like my one boss used to say   " he might be a good father and husband but......".    You can fill out the rest.   😉

    It's always a good idea to consider the source but it's a bad idea to assume out of hand that everything that the people that disagree with you say is a lie. The angle being presented on a story maybe left or right but it doesn't mean the story is false.

    And just for the record resistance to tyranny or mandates or whatever, it's not necessarily a right-wing idea. I would venture a guess that most dictatorships are also as far as left as you can get. Communism / socialism is a big seller for tyrants.

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    It's always a good idea to consider the source but it's a bad idea to assume out of hand that everything that the people that disagree with you say is a lie. The angle being presented on a story maybe left or right but it doesn't mean the story is false.

    And just for the record resistance to tyranny or mandates or whatever, it's not necessarily a right-wing idea. I would venture a guess that most dictatorships are also as far as left as you can get. Communism / socialism is a big seller for tyrants.

    WSS 

    Yes that's why you want to listen to both sides before judging anything..... that's how a democracy works, or should work.

    Too bad our country is so bittely divided about almost everything,  especially over the last 5+ years.  More than in my 71 years here.

    Historians will eventually tell us what was true and what were just big lies.  😉  

    Starting with the January 6th attack on our Capitol.  The video and personal testimonials are undeniable.  Well others are sorting that out...... this is a Dr Fauci thread.

  • @westside-steve said:

    It's always a good idea to consider the source but it's a bad idea to assume out of hand that everything that the people that disagree with you say is a lie. The angle being presented on a story maybe left or right but it doesn't mean the story is false.

    And just for the record resistance to tyranny or mandates or whatever, it's not necessarily a right-wing idea. I would venture a guess that most dictatorships are also as far as left as you can get. Communism / socialism is a big seller for tyrants.

    WSS 

    Yes that's why you want to listen to both sides before judging anything..... that's how a democracy works, or should work.

    Too bad our country is so bittely divided about almost everything,  especially over the last 5+ years.  More than in my 71 years here.

    Historians will eventually tell us what was true and what were just big lies.  😉  

    Starting with the January 6th attack on our Capitol.  The video and personal testimonials are undeniable.  Well others are sorting that out...... this is a Dr Fauci thread.

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes that's why you want to listen to both sides before judging anything..... that's how a democracy works, or should work.

    Too bad our country is so bittely divided about almost everything,  especially over the last 5+ years.  More than in my 71 years here.

    Historians will eventually tell us what was true and what were just big lies.  😉  

    Starting with the January 6th attack on our Capitol.  The video and personal testimonials are undeniable.  Well others are sorting that out...... this is a Dr Fauci thread.

    Dr. Fauci brought it up. It's still bulshit but he did.

    Maybe 71 years have dulled your memory to the point you can't remember Jack Kennedy Richard Nixon the Vietnam War the race riots and other times of division.

    And if 75% and that's a generous estimate, of the mainstream media is liberal then you have to look at more than a couple of conservative sites. But apparently everybody most certainly including you just wants to read the ones that agree with them. So there's that.

    WSS 

  • But apparently everybody most certainly including you just wants to read the ones that agree with them. So there's that.
     

    So true