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  • @calfoxwc said:

    yep. Damion Daniels, 6'3", 335. He'd be a backup. Upped his play this year hugely. His draft profile isn't at all what Jordan Davis's is.

    If Davis is there, I'd pick him in about two seconds in the first round. After watching Davis last week, wow. He dominates and can seriously move with balance and agility. And he has serious power.  Daniels will be around later rounds in the draft, I think.

    Davis is special, there's really no getting around that.  But I don't believe the Browns will be in a position to take him.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Davis is special, there's really no getting around that.  But I don't believe the Browns will be in a position to take him.

    I think the Browns could end up drafting way higher than any of us expected. 

    I can't shake the feeling that this season is slowly devolving into 2019...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Davis is special, there's really no getting around that.  But I don't believe the Browns will be in a position to take him.

    I think the Browns could end up drafting way higher than any of us expected. 

    I can't shake the feeling that this season is slowly devolving into 2019...

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think the Browns could end up drafting way higher than any of us expected. 

    I can't shake the feeling that this season is slowly devolving into 2019...

    I share your concern, but we'll see what happens. 

    Mike

  • Can't tell ya ? 

    but I'm on LB/Edge watch.. Edge stock.. Looks to out weight the LB stock by a plenty 

     Wait! childhood flashback...remove those fur stars from General TruScott ? That's Trigger ... our family dog .. Identical... What a great choice..They are awesome!

    Some front runner names?

    Edge--Nattys- Myjai Sanders// Hutch-Mich//

    LB--Penn St- Brandon Smith (Bucks tonight #12)/// Bama-Christian Harris     Devin Lloyd--Utah .. He's JOK trim and also solid.. but, I've only seen 1.5 games..

    @gumby73 said:

    but I'm on LB/Edge watch.. Edge stock.. Looks to out weight the LB stock by a plenty 

    Some front runner names?

    Edge--Nattys- Myjai Sanders// Hutch-Mich//

    Natty Bearcat's, 2nd rated defense deserves more scouting eyes..

    #21 Myjai Sanders is just blowing by Tulsa'lettes ?

    #41 MLB Joel Dublanko  ? this stud,  just ball hawks backfields.. good, vision to ball, with closing speed.. Also will have no issue of lowering his helmet..

    #1 CB Gardner has not given up a TD thru Junior season... S's Hicks & #6 Bryan Cooks.. both ballers can hit & rips balls out...

    adding to needed review

    DEFENSE
    DE 21 Sanders, Myjai SR 90 Taylor, Jabari RS SR            
    DT 92 Brooks, Curtis GR 99 Brown, Marcus GR 97 Phillips, Eric RS SO        
    DE 42 Vann, Malik SR 18 Briggs, Jowon SO/TR            
    WILL 00 Beavers, Darrian GR/TR 24 Thomas, Jaheim RS FR 23 Jones Jr., Daved SO        
    MIKE 41 Dublanko, Joel GR 2 Huber, Wilson RS SR            
    SAM 13 Van Fossen, Ty RS JR 20 Pace, Deshawn SO            
    CB 1 Gardner, Ahmad JR 5 Sheppard, Ja'quan JR            
    S 6 Cook, Bryan RS SR/TR 29 Dingle, Jacob JR            
    S 3 Hicks, Ja'von SR 36 Adams, Will RS JR            
    CB 7 Bryant, Coby GR 12 Bumphis, Todd RS FR            
    NB 9 Bush, Arquon RS JR 15 Ward, Taj RS JR
  • David Ojabo (Michigan DE/OLB opposite Aiden) is shooting up draft boards. Kiper just hyped him up to #10 overall. Great for him, bad for Michigan. A lot will happen between now and April, but he may be an option if the Browns want an end. 

  • Looks like DraftScout has attempted to monetize.. zero lists are available without a subscription.

    Other options: ProFootballNetwork // NFLmockdraftdatabase // TheDraftNetwork

    I use mockdraftdatabase for their links to other sites.

  • 1)    7:30 ESPN tonight...NC Tarheels at Pitt.       Sam Howell vs. Pickett...                   both teams semi Jekyll or Hyde at times

    2)    8pm     Browns Redzone         STO

    3)    8:20 pm     Ravens   at    Dolphins       NFN              set your Teams !

    Remotes ready !

  • I know the Browns are still fighting for a playoff spot, but it's the bye week so here's my shortlist of players I would target for the Browns 2022 first round pick:

    DE Aidan Hutchinson, TTUN, 6-6, 265

    DE George Karlaftis, Purdue, 6-4, 275

    WR Chris Olave, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    DT DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M, 6-4, 290

    DE David Ojabo, TTUN, 6-5, 250

    WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    I know Hutchinson is going to be off the board by the time the Browns pick (I see the Browns picking between #10-15 overall), but what the hell, a boy can dream. I know this seems like a complete Big Ten homer list, but these guys seem like legit first half of the draft guys, and DLine and WR is a big need for the Browns. How did Leal do this year TexAg? 

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

  • I know the Browns are still fighting for a playoff spot, but it's the bye week so here's my shortlist of players I would target for the Browns 2022 first round pick:

    DE Aidan Hutchinson, TTUN, 6-6, 265

    DE George Karlaftis, Purdue, 6-4, 275

    WR Chris Olave, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    DT DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M, 6-4, 290

    DE David Ojabo, TTUN, 6-5, 250

    WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    I know Hutchinson is going to be off the board by the time the Browns pick (I see the Browns picking between #10-15 overall), but what the hell, a boy can dream. I know this seems like a complete Big Ten homer list, but these guys seem like legit first half of the draft guys, and DLine and WR is a big need for the Browns. How did Leal do this year TexAg? 

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know the Browns are still fighting for a playoff spot, but it's the bye week so here's my shortlist of players I would target for the Browns 2022 first round pick:

    DE Aidan Hutchinson, TTUN, 6-6, 265

    DE George Karlaftis, Purdue, 6-4, 275

    WR Chris Olave, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    DT DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M, 6-4, 290

    DE David Ojabo, TTUN, 6-5, 250

    WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    I know Hutchinson is going to be off the board by the time the Browns pick (I see the Browns picking between #10-15 overall), but what the hell, a boy can dream. I know this seems like a complete Big Ten homer list, but these guys seem like legit first half of the draft guys, and DLine and WR is a big need for the Browns. How did Leal do this year TexAg? 

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    Watching some of the IOL for Iowa.  

    Also watching this A.T. Perry kid from Wake Forrest.  Unreal catch radius.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I know the Browns are still fighting for a playoff spot, but it's the bye week so here's my shortlist of players I would target for the Browns 2022 first round pick:

    DE Aidan Hutchinson, TTUN, 6-6, 265

    DE George Karlaftis, Purdue, 6-4, 275

    WR Chris Olave, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    DT DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M, 6-4, 290

    DE David Ojabo, TTUN, 6-5, 250

    WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    I know Hutchinson is going to be off the board by the time the Browns pick (I see the Browns picking between #10-15 overall), but what the hell, a boy can dream. I know this seems like a complete Big Ten homer list, but these guys seem like legit first half of the draft guys, and DLine and WR is a big need for the Browns. How did Leal do this year TexAg? 

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    Watching some of the IOL for Iowa.  

    Also watching this A.T. Perry kid from Wake Forrest.  Unreal catch radius.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Watching some of the IOL for Iowa.  

    Also watching this A.T. Perry kid from Wake Forrest.  Unreal catch radius.

    I know Hutchinson is a pipe dream for where the Browns will end up drafting, but is the rest of my list fairly realistic for where I think the Browns will draft (#10-15)?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Watching some of the IOL for Iowa.  

    Also watching this A.T. Perry kid from Wake Forrest.  Unreal catch radius.

    I know Hutchinson is a pipe dream for where the Browns will end up drafting, but is the rest of my list fairly realistic for where I think the Browns will draft (#10-15)?

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know Hutchinson is a pipe dream for where the Browns will end up drafting, but is the rest of my list fairly realistic for where I think the Browns will draft (#10-15)?

    I'd say so.  Hutch, after his game last week, is a top 10 lock.  He's a white chocolate version of Tamba Hali.

    My only little input would be this - we see this year how the Dline can look when Myles has even a little bit of help.  You really don't need to invest high draft capital on another edge rusher. This Dline needs contributors, but most importantly - depth.   Depth on the IDL.  Because if we can continue to generate pressure rates across the entire front, it becomes difficult to just lock in on MG.  You really don't need a big name across from him if the floor of the rest of the group is raised evenly.

  • It's looking like a loaded draft class this year defensive players everywhere and on offense some good pass catchers out there.

    Plus kids are coming out earlier and earlier every year and not just players in the P5 schools.

    I caught a couple Friday Conference Championship games and today I watched most of the UC the Cincinnati Bearcats game a few first rounders there.

    I'm watching the B1G Conference Championship game now......minus the Ohio State Globetrotters and all of their offensive trickery.

    It's hard to say exactly where our Cleveland BROWNS are going to draft top ⅓  middle ⅓ or hopefully not the bottom ⅓ ........ but at least they won't be " on the clock ". been there, done that.  

    My Dear Santa list will probably be like most of us.....a WR burner, some defensive help.  -but-. don't be surprised what the brain trust comes up with.

    AND of course  " will they trade up " ?   There I said it.    Plenty of time left.......

  • Speaking of burner WR's - Jameson from tOSU --> Bama.   Not sure how his functional strength is, but kid has wheels, hands and good feet. 

  • 1)    7:30 ESPN tonight...NC Tarheels at Pitt.       Sam Howell vs. Pickett...                   both teams semi Jekyll or Hyde at times

    2)    8pm     Browns Redzone         STO

    3)    8:20 pm     Ravens   at    Dolphins       NFN              set your Teams !

    Remotes ready !

    @gumby73 said:

    1)    7:30 ESPN tonight...NC Tarheels at Pitt.       Sam Howell vs. Pickett...                   both teams semi Jekyll or Hyde at times

    2)    8pm     Browns Redzone         STO

    3)    8:20 pm     Ravens   at    Dolphins       NFN              set your Teams !

    Remotes ready !

    Oh yeah and a good time to break in two new TV's........ football college bowls and NFL playoff run.   

  • I know the Browns are still fighting for a playoff spot, but it's the bye week so here's my shortlist of players I would target for the Browns 2022 first round pick:

    DE Aidan Hutchinson, TTUN, 6-6, 265

    DE George Karlaftis, Purdue, 6-4, 275

    WR Chris Olave, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    DT DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M, 6-4, 290

    DE David Ojabo, TTUN, 6-5, 250

    WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State, 6-0, 190

    I know Hutchinson is going to be off the board by the time the Browns pick (I see the Browns picking between #10-15 overall), but what the hell, a boy can dream. I know this seems like a complete Big Ten homer list, but these guys seem like legit first half of the draft guys, and DLine and WR is a big need for the Browns. How did Leal do this year TexAg? 

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    Names should fall into place..(working on) BPA in group of

    WR1-- Bama/Bucks

    RT- Bama/NCST

    MLB- Georgia/Bama/Utah

    DT Jordan Davis (told to lose weight from 380lb ( ?  )... I won't be surprised if this guy took a slide today.. Playing 2 down sets due to 350lbs legs? He's got some pre-draft work to do 

  • I really would like to see Iowa score something.......soon-ish !

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Anybody else have an early wish list for the Browns? 

    Names should fall into place..(working on) BPA in group of

    WR1-- Bama/Bucks

    RT- Bama/NCST

    MLB- Georgia/Bama/Utah

    DT Jordan Davis (told to lose weight from 380lb ( ?  )... I won't be surprised if this guy took a slide today.. Playing 2 down sets due to 350lbs legs? He's got some pre-draft work to do 

    @gumby73 said:

    Names should fall into place..(working on) BPA in group of

    WR1-- Bama/Bucks

    RT- Bama/NCST

    MLB- Georgia/Utah

    DT Jordan Davis (told to lose weight from 380lb ( ?  )... I won't be surprised if this guy took a slide today.. Playing 2 down sets due to 350lbs legs? He's got some pre-draft work to do 

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT like Davis. I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Names should fall into place..(working on) BPA in group of

    WR1-- Bama/Bucks

    RT- Bama/NCST

    MLB- Georgia/Utah

    DT Jordan Davis (told to lose weight from 380lb ( ?  )... I won't be surprised if this guy took a slide today.. Playing 2 down sets due to 350lbs legs? He's got some pre-draft work to do 

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT like Davis. I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT. I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

    Leal gets the kind of attention that Garrett gets and he has great versatility in that he has played all 4 down DL positions often in the same game. He has now declared for the draft. EDIT: If we don't start winning then we have a shot at him. But if he also declares I'd prefer Bama's WR Jameson Williams, another of those great Bama WRs. We obviously need help there.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Names should fall into place..(working on) BPA in group of

    WR1-- Bama/Bucks

    RT- Bama/NCST

    MLB- Georgia/Utah

    DT Jordan Davis (told to lose weight from 380lb ( ?  )... I won't be surprised if this guy took a slide today.. Playing 2 down sets due to 350lbs legs? He's got some pre-draft work to do 

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT like Davis. I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT. ranks in most top 15's

    I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

    This list would prove your right... https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/dt  they went wrong in 2017 though..

    My stud.. Jonathan Allen Bama went to WFT pick #17.. 

    just can't miss in round 1..

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I hesitated in even mentioning Leal as a potential pick in the first, I definitely do not want the Browns to use a top half of the first round pick on a 340lb DT. I agree, I think Davis slides. Defensive Tackle seems like a position now that you just load up on depth guys instead of using a high pick on. I've seen the Browns take DTackles in the first fairly recently that were reaches already. If you do take a DT that high, the guy better be a plus in the run game and being disruptive in the pass game.

    Leal gets the kind of attention that Garrett gets and he has great versatility in that he has played all 4 down DL positions often in the same game. He has now declared for the draft. EDIT: If we don't start winning then we have a shot at him. But if he also declares I'd prefer Bama's WR Jameson Williams, another of those great Bama WRs. We obviously need help there.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Leal gets the kind of attention that Garrett gets and he has great versatility in that he has played all 4 down DL positions often in the same game. He has now declared for the draft. EDIT: If we don't start winning then we have a shot at him. But if he also declares I'd prefer Bama's WR Jameson Williams, another of those great Bama WRs. We obviously need help there.

    Williams seems like another good prospect to add to the list.

    One way or another, the Browns should have a WR or DLineman fall into their laps if they want to go in either of those directions. 

    And I just saw a mock that has the Steelers QB replacement for Big Ben fall into their laps in Pitt's QB Kenny Pickett. That would be so them. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Leal gets the kind of attention that Garrett gets and he has great versatility in that he has played all 4 down DL positions often in the same game. He has now declared for the draft. EDIT: If we don't start winning then we have a shot at him. But if he also declares I'd prefer Bama's WR Jameson Williams, another of those great Bama WRs. We obviously need help there.

    Williams seems like another good prospect to add to the list.

    One way or another, the Browns should have a WR or DLineman fall into their laps if they want to go in either of those directions. 

    And I just saw a mock that has the Steelers QB replacement for Big Ben fall into their laps in Pitt's QB Kenny Pickett. That would be so them. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Williams seems like another good prospect to add to the list.

    One way or another, the Browns should have a WR or DLineman fall into their laps if they want to go in either of those directions. 

    And I just saw a mock that has the Steelers QB replacement for Big Ben fall into their laps in Pitt's QB Kenny Pickett. That would be so them. 

    Could be. Announced today Big Ben is retiring after this season.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32788145/sources-ben-roethlisberger-expects-his-last-season-pittsburgh-steelers