America Has a Gun Problem

Rifles, as a particular category of firearm, were used to kill 297 people in 2018. By comparison, knives and other cutting instruments were the murder weapon for 1,515 murders in 2018.

so we have a knife problem? or... a FREEDOM PROBLEM>?

I'll live in freedom. The ability to defend ourselves in our homes.

Go to Australia, russia, communist china, nk, etc.....and see if you want to live there.

People come to America to be free. Freedom isn't free - and for a country to lose it's freedom...

that is tragic and hell on earth. That's why people flee, risking death.

We have societal problems - we are blend of cultures. That might be a reason.

But more likely, it's the fostering of free rides, ENTITLEMENT, and mental illness.

Every country on earth has problems. So, I think dirty politics and super ego corrupt emotionalism and entitlement is creating

a subculture of "my way or I will strike out against you" elitism.

More people are murdered by knives than by guns...and we "Have a gun problem" ?

just trolling by the left. "look at me, I have a controversial stupid take"

a lot of it social media inspired. "look at me, I say.do really stupid outrageous stuff to be famous"

Westside Steve

@mld-woody said:

I don't have a subscription and can't view the article

I don't either but it came up okay for me, sorry. I figured you guys on the left wouldn't complain about wapo.

WSS

Westside Steve

@mld-woody said:

I don't have a subscription and can't view the article

Just tapped on the lake again from the BB page and it works fine. Oh well.

WSS

calfoxwc

@gorka said:

I believe there exist data/ arguments that suggest that it does. It's just that I have not looked into it deep enough to make a decision.

My gut feeling is no.

Besides, you hijacked your own thread. Are we talking about a gun problem, or do video games cause gun violence?

If people are apt to act out in violence, it's tough to say that violent games inspire it or not. Mental illness is the key.

Violence has been prevalent in history, long, long before video games. So, I think not. A lot of kids watching westerns...and the Three Stooges - none of us ever went around slapping, shooting with guns, .... that I know of.

and the violence in other cartoons. I have never read where anyone ever was violently influenced by Wiley E. Coyote's violent attempts towards the Roadrunner. And how many times did Boris and Natasha try to kill Bullwinkle and Rocky?

Charles Manson was born in 1934....the first video game was created about 1982......

We don't incarcerate/exterminate every one who displeases authority. We are America.

Throughout history - look at the violence in the Bible. Reaching for video games is nonsense, I think.

Vambo

@mld-woody said:

So do you all think it is fine to use Santa for promoting concealed carry... Literal days after a school shooting?

Or are most of you just going to jerk each other off over Alec Baldwin?

Vambo

@mld-woody said:

Do you think video takes cause gun violence?

STUNNING SILENCE

AOC's smash-and-grab denial met by Democrat silence in California as crimewave rages on

Vambo

'RIOT AND VIOLENCE'

10 Antifa members charged with allegedly assaulting Trump supporters

calfoxwc

So, let's take a look at how the simple anti-conservative "gun problem" is a lot of hooey.

FBI stats show 5 times more murders by knives than rifles ...

https://www.spiritlifemag.com/facts-gun-violence-vs-abortion-in-america/

knowing that certain people won't open the link:

" When you have read and digested the following information, ask yourself how many children had to be murdered every day since 1973 to now number above 55 million? Ask yourself why every democrat running for president promises two things: 1) To take away our Constitutional rights under the Second Amendment to own and bear arms; and 2) To not only keep the killing of babies legal, but to expand the murder of children to include after they are born and healthy if the parent decides they do not want the child. "

" So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example , California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So, if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths."

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CONCLUSION:

A simple emotional manipulative one liner is not as valid as a complicated truth. anyone may quote me on that.

Gorka

@mld-woody said:

So do you all think it is fine to use Santa for promoting concealed carry... Literal days after a school shooting?

Santa must have a gig coming up in the inner city.

Besides, Christmas is coming up. How long should have Santa waited? Time is of the essence this time of year for him!

But seriously, days after a school shooting has no relevance here. What you did was take advantage of a school shooting in order to manufacture outrage.

Had the website provided in the Tweet made mention of Santa applying for conceal carry, then yes, you could argue that this was "promoting", otherwise many reading that tweet other than liberals would find it amusing, like I did.

calfoxwc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Per the link - the top two gun murder states are Texas and California. Political and gun control OPPOSITES.

The first number is population, the fourth is gun murders. California - 1275. Texas - 906.

Gun control is NOT the answer.

California	38,993,940	1,861	1,861	1,275	20.1	4.8	4.8	3.3
Texas	27,429,639	1,316	1,276	906	35.7	4.8	4.7	3.3

Vambo

@mld-woody said:

So do you all think it is fine to use Santa for promoting concealed carry... Literal days after a school shooting?

Or are most of you just going to jerk each other off over Alec Baldwin?

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Canton Dawg

@mld-woody said:

So do you all think it is fine to use Santa for promoting concealed carry... Literal days after a school shooting?

Or are most of you just going to jerk each other off over Alec Baldwin?

I think Santa, your mailman, Kyle Rittenhouse, or who ever is entitled to defend themselves.

Alec Baldwin is a case of Karma being a bitch….enjoy!

MLD Woody

@gorka said:

I believe there exist data/ arguments that suggest that it does. It's just that I have not looked into it deep enough to make a decision.

My gut feeling is no.

Besides, you hijacked your own thread. Are we talking about a gun problem, or do video games cause gun violence?

Video games are uses as a scapegoat when discussing our gun violence issue. Dumbass CNN was pushing that take after the Oxford shooting. I brought it up because they're tied together.

But video games do not cause gun violence any more than ice cream sales cause crime (correlation vs causation)

MLD Woody

@gorka said:

Santa must have a gig coming up in the inner city.

Besides, Christmas is coming up. How long should have Santa waited? Time is of the essence this time of year for him!

But seriously, days after a school shooting has no relevance here. What you did was take advantage of a school shooting in order to manufacture outrage.

Had the website provided in the Tweet made mention of Santa applying for conceal carry, then yes, you could argue that this was "promoting", otherwise many reading that tweet other than liberals would find it amusing, like I did.

You can take the school shooting angle out of it. Even then it seems insane to have Santa get a concealed carry permit. Who's next, Jesus?

MLD Woody

@canton-dawg said:

I think Santa, your mailman, Kyle Rittenhouse, or who ever is entitled to defend themselves.

Alec Baldwin is case of Karma being a bitch….enjoy!

Someone died in a terrible accident. Someone connected to this board.

And your response is "karma is a bitch" as you fall over others to attack Baldwin in an attempt to "own the libs"...

Canton Dawg

@mld-woody said:

Someone died in a terrible accident. Someone connected to this board.

And your response is "karma is a bitch" as you fall over others to attack Baldwin in an attempt to "own the libs"...

My wife died 6 months ago in a terrible accident, I had to deal with it.

Baldwin got his jollies publicly shaming law enforcement officers forced to shoot people in the line of duty.

Now it’s his turn to squirm, see how that works? Deal with it.

mjp28

@mld-woody said:

Do you think video takes cause gun violence?

I think that from about 10 years on up a steady daily indoctrination of mass killing and general mindless violence coupled with a general decline of morals in our country leads to all of the mass killing fields in America today...... hundreds of deaths now in our schools. When I went to school that number was ZERO !

And yes I'm a. GUN GUY and have owned and/or used our guns since I was 11 some 60 years now.

~ REMEMBER ~

1. Guns don't kill people nutjobs with guns do.

2. The only really successful way to stop a nutjob with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

3. Some gun safety training and licensing should be required to carry a concealed firearm.

Just the basics.

.....oh edit add, our one grand nephew from when he was maybe 10-12 used to go in his room and play his games and you'd hear. " kill him, kill him " coming from his room. Now he's a good kid from a good family -but- what if....... you can finish that.......

Westside Steve

I think the inundation of social media is a big reason random acts of violence happen. Not exactly the same for garden variety Thug shootings in the Inner City. Crazy people are now instant celebrities that other crazy people see that and they want to be celebrities too.

WSS