America Has a Gun Problem
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There is absolutely no reason that an AR-15 should be considered anyting special if you can buy legitimate hunting rifles that fires as many rounds. Even the most anti-gun guy has to realize that looks don't really matter if you can get a Remington to do the same thing. Plus multi round shotguns are available and even I could saw off the barrel.
WSS
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Some perspective.
Some say we have a gun problem. Maybe. In 2019, 40K deaths related to guns in the US. That's all types of deaths, homicide, accidents, police, etc.,
In the same year over 600K deaths related to Alcohol, tobacco, and drug use. In this country we like to label situations and occurrences before we understand the true context. Why are the deaths of 40K more important than the 600K related to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Why aren't we fighting to restrict, legislate, or criminalize those concerns.
Also, those numbers are straight from the CDC.Some perspective.
Some say we have a gun problem. Maybe. In 2019, 40K deaths related to guns in the US. That's all types of deaths, homicide, accidents, police, etc.,
In the same year over 600K deaths related to Alcohol, tobacco, and drug use. In this country we like to label situations and occurrences before we understand the true context. Why are the deaths of 40K more important than the 600K related to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Why aren't we fighting to restrict, legislate, or criminalize those concerns.
Also, those numbers are straight from the CDC.Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I've already said that is a problem in this thread. And I have also said that my idea was not a cure all. Gun theft is a major problem, but so is also people who have no business even touching a gun. What I am suggesting would at least slow down the ability of someone being able ti get their hands on a powerful weapon with ease. If you feel you deserve to have that weapon then prove it. Go get the training and go get certified.
Our next President and VP in Hoorta's and Tex's world?
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Some perspective.
Some say we have a gun problem. Maybe. In 2019, 40K deaths related to guns in the US. That's all types of deaths, homicide, accidents, police, etc.,
In the same year over 600K deaths related to Alcohol, tobacco, and drug use. In this country we like to label situations and occurrences before we understand the true context. Why are the deaths of 40K more important than the 600K related to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Why aren't we fighting to restrict, legislate, or criminalize those concerns.
Also, those numbers are straight from the CDC.Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
Nope. Not when people get killed by dui other drivers, etc.
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Some perspective.
Some say we have a gun problem. Maybe. In 2019, 40K deaths related to guns in the US. That's all types of deaths, homicide, accidents, police, etc.,
In the same year over 600K deaths related to Alcohol, tobacco, and drug use. In this country we like to label situations and occurrences before we understand the true context. Why are the deaths of 40K more important than the 600K related to alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Why aren't we fighting to restrict, legislate, or criminalize those concerns.
Also, those numbers are straight from the CDC.Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
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Alcohol, tobacco and drugs only affect the people who are taking them.
Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
stop your incessant chirping and look it up your own self
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Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And the point being, despite all the laws we have, there are still 500K more deaths related to drinking, tobacco and drugs. And to state that those deaths only impact the person who dies of alcoholism or lung cancer or an overdose is not correct either. Family and friends are deeply impacted by those deaths as well.
The point that is slipping by some of you is that the narrative that is being put in front of us by politicians and our MSM make it appear that this country has some overwhelming gun problem. That is not the case and is shown by the numbers. If you really care about the deaths of others, then the cause shouldn't matter. If we should ban or even legislate gun ownership even further, then we should do the same with alcohol and tobacco. A death is a death, even if it is self inflicted like alcohol and tobacco CAN be. Stop being manipulated by politicians and the MSM. Do some damn research and form an intelligent opinion based on some damn facts rather than what your political party chooses to espouse.
Just wait though. One day, politicians will make alcohol and tobacco a political issue (in some ways, it already is with sin taxes) and some will want to ban (again) those items. And when the politicians come for it (so they can get votes) let's see how you like that big ol' gov't then.
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Nope. Drunk drivers kill. Second hand smoke is harmful and can lead to death. Associated deaths due to drugs and the drug empire kill. But you're missing my point. How many deaths does it take then for those deaths to be a concern?
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And there are laws about murder.
" that's against the law!"
"So is murder Engelberg now shut up before you get me into some real trouble."
WSS
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And there are a lot of laws around second hand smoke and drunk driving
What percentage of the gun deaths are self inflicted and what percentage of the drug and alcohol deaths are self inflicted.
And the point being, despite all the laws we have, there are still 500K more deaths related to drinking, tobacco and drugs. And to state that those deaths only impact the person who dies of alcoholism or lung cancer or an overdose is not correct either. Family and friends are deeply impacted by those deaths as well.
The point that is slipping by some of you is that the narrative that is being put in front of us by politicians and our MSM make it appear that this country has some overwhelming gun problem. That is not the case and is shown by the numbers. If you really care about the deaths of others, then the cause shouldn't matter. If we should ban or even legislate gun ownership even further, then we should do the same with alcohol and tobacco. A death is a death, even if it is self inflicted like alcohol and tobacco CAN be. Stop being manipulated by politicians and the MSM. Do some damn research and form an intelligent opinion based on some damn facts rather than what your political party chooses to espouse.
Just wait though. One day, politicians will make alcohol and tobacco a political issue (in some ways, it already is with sin taxes) and some will want to ban (again) those items. And when the politicians come for it (so they can get votes) let's see how you like that big ol' gov't then.
And the point being, despite all the laws we have, there are still 500K more deaths related to drinking, tobacco and drugs. And to state that those deaths only impact the person who dies of alcoholism or lung cancer or an overdose is not correct either. Family and friends are deeply impacted by those deaths as well.
The point that is slipping by some of you is that the narrative that is being put in front of us by politicians and our MSM make it appear that this country has some overwhelming gun problem. That is not the case and is shown by the numbers. If you really care about the deaths of others, then the cause shouldn't matter. If we should ban or even legislate gun ownership even further, then we should do the same with alcohol and tobacco. A death is a death, even if it is self inflicted like alcohol and tobacco CAN be. Stop being manipulated by politicians and the MSM. Do some damn research and form an intelligent opinion based on some damn facts rather than what your political party chooses to espouse.
Just wait though. One day, politicians will make alcohol and tobacco a political issue (in some ways, it already is with sin taxes) and some will want to ban (again) those items. And when the politicians come for it (so they can get votes) let's see how you like that big ol' gov't then.
I don't see how any logical person can compare gun deaths to alcohol, tobacco and drugs. There are plenty of laws which cover DUI/Drug driving. Tobacco has been known to be a killer for decades and almost every employer in the USA bans it on their property.
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And the point being, despite all the laws we have, there are still 500K more deaths related to drinking, tobacco and drugs. And to state that those deaths only impact the person who dies of alcoholism or lung cancer or an overdose is not correct either. Family and friends are deeply impacted by those deaths as well.
The point that is slipping by some of you is that the narrative that is being put in front of us by politicians and our MSM make it appear that this country has some overwhelming gun problem. That is not the case and is shown by the numbers. If you really care about the deaths of others, then the cause shouldn't matter. If we should ban or even legislate gun ownership even further, then we should do the same with alcohol and tobacco. A death is a death, even if it is self inflicted like alcohol and tobacco CAN be. Stop being manipulated by politicians and the MSM. Do some damn research and form an intelligent opinion based on some damn facts rather than what your political party chooses to espouse.
Just wait though. One day, politicians will make alcohol and tobacco a political issue (in some ways, it already is with sin taxes) and some will want to ban (again) those items. And when the politicians come for it (so they can get votes) let's see how you like that big ol' gov't then.
I don't see how any logical person can compare gun deaths to alcohol, tobacco and drugs. There are plenty of laws which cover DUI/Drug driving. Tobacco has been known to be a killer for decades and almost every employer in the USA bans it on their property.
I don't see how any logical person can compare gun deaths to alcohol, tobacco and drugs. There are plenty of laws which cover DUI/Drug driving. Tobacco has been known to be a killer for decades and almost every employer in the USA bans it on their property.
Per the CDC over 10K died due to drunk driving in 2016. That's 25% of gun related deaths. So, what number of deaths have to occur before we have a "problem"?
People still die because of those issues, whether they directly or indirectly affect you or others, people still die. My point, is 40K died due to gun deaths. Over 600K due to alcohol, tobacco, or drugs (and yes, most of those don't directly affect or kill others), but the point is that why don't those 600K deaths matter as much as gun related deaths? Because it's political. Isn't a preventable death, regardless of the cause, tragic? When politicians figure that they can divide and gather votes by pushing those vices i've mentioned, they will come for them. Maybe not in our lifetime, but they will.
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I don't see how any logical person can compare gun deaths to alcohol, tobacco and drugs. There are plenty of laws which cover DUI/Drug driving. Tobacco has been known to be a killer for decades and almost every employer in the USA bans it on their property.
Per the CDC over 10K died due to drunk driving in 2016. That's 25% of gun related deaths. So, what number of deaths have to occur before we have a "problem"?
People still die because of those issues, whether they directly or indirectly affect you or others, people still die. My point, is 40K died due to gun deaths. Over 600K due to alcohol, tobacco, or drugs (and yes, most of those don't directly affect or kill others), but the point is that why don't those 600K deaths matter as much as gun related deaths? Because it's political. Isn't a preventable death, regardless of the cause, tragic? When politicians figure that they can divide and gather votes by pushing those vices i've mentioned, they will come for them. Maybe not in our lifetime, but they will.
Per the CDC over 10K died due to drunk driving in 2016. That's 25% of gun related deaths. So, what number of deaths have to occur before we have a "problem"?
People still die because of those issues, whether they directly or indirectly affect you or others, people still die. My point, is 40K died due to gun deaths. Over 600K due to alcohol, tobacco, or drugs (and yes, most of those don't directly affect or kill others), but the point is that why don't those 600K deaths matter as much as gun related deaths? Because it's political. Isn't a preventable death, regardless of the cause, tragic? When politicians figure that they can divide and gather votes by pushing those vices i've mentioned, they will come for them. Maybe not in our lifetime, but they will.
The more power you get, the more power you want.
WSS
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