Official Browns at Packers Game Thread
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another chapter in the book of....
"Life as a Browns fan"
ya can't keep pointing fingers at others without pointing them at yourself
4 quarters... 60 minute game
want a plan?a) draft a WR high... b) Trade for saints Micheal Thomas c) Pay Russ/ D.Watson or Matt Ryan..
Merry Christmas ! ?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
We are ALL sick of the losing, I guess we just disagree on the cure.
Some folks are saying the cure is Desean Watson. You can encapsulate the difference between Baker and Aaron Rodgers in a couple of plays. Browns call a cover zero blitz, and Rodgers calmly tosses a TD. Packers blitz Baker and knock us out of FG range.
The bottom line is... IF Baker plays a clean game, we're 8-7, not 7-8. It's just that simple.
Some folks are saying the cure is Desean Watson. You can encapsulate the difference between Baker and Aaron Rodgers in a couple of plays. Browns call a cover zero blitz, and Rodgers calmly tosses a TD. Packers blitz Baker and knock us out of FG range.
The bottom line is... IF Baker plays a clean game, we're 8-7, not 7-8. It's just that simple.
Baker Head down stumbles in the pocket when he feels any pressure. I’m over it. He Ain’t it. Thank you for helping us dig out of an 0-16 hole.
But He can’t read defenses and process coverage quickly enough at this level. And he’s wildly inconsistent with ball placement.
Couple plays? you are being way too kind.
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another chapter in the book of....
"Life as a Browns fan"
ya can't keep pointing fingers at others without pointing them at yourself
4 quarters... 60 minute game
want a plan?a) draft a WR high... b) Trade for saints Micheal Thomas c) Pay Russ/ D.Watson or Matt Ryan..
Merry Christmas ! ?
another chapter in the book of....
"Life as a Browns fan"
ya can't keep pointing fingers at others without pointing them at yourself
4 quarters... 60 minute game
want a plan?a) draft a WR high... b) Trade for saints Micheal Thomas c) Pay Russ/ D.Watson or Matt Ryan..
Merry Christmas ! ?
I’m on board.
and don’t be afraid to trade draft picks.
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Wonder if Kev took note that when he pushed the ball down field the box opens up to gash with his run game
Wonder if Kev took note that when he pushed the ball down field the box opens up to gash with his run game
No NFL team shuts down Nick Chubb as effectively as Kevin Stefanski.
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Yep, feels like the good ole Browns again. How I missed that feeling of having my heart torn out, stomped on, and then set on fire.
Seems like they are getting even more creative at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Except, they did it the exact opposite than they did last week.
Also, I am thoroughly convinced the NFL hates the Browns. I don't find it a coincidence that the Browns are always on the losing end of bad/missed calls.
Today is a day of giving and Baker and the Browns were sure in the giving mood today.
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ESPN quoted the "Bad Throw%" stat from that link [click on accuracy, sort by bad%] in their summary of the game.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
ESPN quoted the "Bad Throw%" stat from that link [click on accuracy, sort by bad%] in their summary of the game.
ESPN quoted the "Bad Throw%" stat from that link [click on accuracy, sort by bad%] in their summary of the game.
I'm surprised he is his only the 4th worst at off target passes.
What I don't understand is how he can miss those 5-8 yard throws so poorly and throw that dime to DPJ down the field, double covered and hit the guy in the only place the ball could go... Wtf?
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why in the hell did coach put the game in bakers hands when we had 3 time outs and were running the ball so well
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The only thing to say, for sure, is that that 4th INT was bullshit. Baker didn’t throw a bad ball there- DPJ literally got pulled backward and the Packers DB used that as momentum for the INT. That ball was honestly in a good spot, absolute trash missed call.
not defending the man, though. Not running the ball with three timeouts at the 50 there is extremely poor coaching, way worse than anything done on the field today.
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The only thing to say, for sure, is that that 4th INT was bullshit. Baker didn’t throw a bad ball there- DPJ literally got pulled backward and the Packers DB used that as momentum for the INT. That ball was honestly in a good spot, absolute trash missed call.
not defending the man, though. Not running the ball with three timeouts at the 50 there is extremely poor coaching, way worse than anything done on the field today.
The only thing to say, for sure, is that that 4th INT was bullshit. Baker didn’t throw a bad ball there- DPJ literally got pulled backward and the Packers DB used that as momentum for the INT. That ball was honestly in a good spot, absolute trash missed call.
not defending the man, though. Not running the ball with three timeouts at the 50 there is extremely poor coaching, way worse than anything done on the field today.
While it was poor coaching at the end for sure.
The first 3 picks were WAY worse. Those are throws you expect a rookie to make. Not a guy in his 61st NFL game -
This board will be a treat next Sunday if the Browns lose to the Steelers again.
I'm not even thinking playoffs/division title at this point.
All I want is for the Browns to ruin Ben's final game in Pittsburgh. I want that so fucking bad.
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Baker wasn't great yesterday. But he's been away from the team for quite a while. Pretty much walking in from the street, putting on his uniform and playing....after 2 weeks away. - Timing wasn't spot on. Did he throw his normal TOO HIGH bullet? Yes, and it got picked. Did he throw behind receivers, yup. Did he have 3 backups to the backups on the OL? (and that's gotta be in the back of your mind somewhere while in the pocket) He's got 2 more games to be watched.
I don't have any real problems with the play calling. He had to back up the defense to open up the run.
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Backups starting all over field…on both sides of the ball. And still almost beat the Packers.
It’s been a tough season. But not a shameful one.
Backups starting all over field…on both sides of the ball. And still almost beat the Packers.
It’s been a tough season. But not a shameful one.
yep. Here's what I think.The Browns need a "Devonta Adams. They don't have one. They need their offensive line starters, didn't have them. What ? Bitonio had to play LT, backup Dunn? at Lg, Harris at Center (first start), They DID have Teller (who falsely got called for illegal motion at a critical time), and they had Hance at Rt.
So, the Browns battlled like they were trying to save earth from Darth Vader and the rest. I was proud of them. Baker still playing hurt, has a few misthrows here and there...... Landry fell down and it was a pick, was a good throw by Baker.
Another int that lost the game for the Browns......was Peoples-Jones being totally interfered with/held NO CALL. THAT has to be investigated. What the )(*&&?
It isn't just me:
Watch: Controversial no-call seals Cleveland Browns' loss to Green Bay Packers
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Something is going on with Case Keenum - or Baker should have just gotten surgery.... but the Browns don't have a star #1 WR.
Actually, the Browns had a few minutes more of offense possesion. Even playing hurt with a shoulder broken, Baker outpassed Rodgers in yardage. Baker - 222 yards, Rodgers 202.
Baker's yards per pass attempt: 6.2. Rodgers: 5.9
The Browns made 58% of their 3rd Downs. Packers - only 30%
Devonta Adams had 10 receptions. The Browns top wr, Higgins - who is really good against zone coverage, had five.
SO...
with Baker getting sacked five times, Rodgers doesn't get sacked once, but Garrett was in pain trying to play and Clowney out, Harrison and Newsome and Johnson were OUT...
and the Browns lost a low scoreing game by two points.
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reaching for a different quarterback is baloney. Most teams the Browns play have star #1 Wr's. If I were deciding for the Browns...
Wr would be the #1 priority. The Browns have to upgrade the wr position. I think they will draft two this upcoming draft. The Browns have not paid attention to the wr group for years. Peoples-Jones - 6th round. Scwartz - 3rd round. that's it. The Browns need a serious star #1 wr. Landry is good, but draws way too much attention, Schwartz doesn't play a play but rarely, but did a great job on his TD pass and end-a-around.
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For example - the Eagles gave up on Carson Wentz. poor wr group. Carson Wentz is starring with the Colts.
The Eagles drafted Hurts, qb, in the second round in 2020. 2021 - they realized wr was the problem, so they drafted Devonta Smith, wr, tenth overall.
The Colts have Michael Pittman, 2nd round star wr, 34th overall pick. Colts just beat Washington - Wentz is still Wentz, Colts seem to be going to the playoffs.
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FINAL NOTES: Gotta love Jarvis Landry. But he is only 5'10". Pittman is 6'4". Devonte Adams is 6'1". Bigger target, better odds of having the height advantage over a lot of corners, I think. Landry has only one TD this year. Schwartz got his first TD vs the Packers.
(btw, Schwartz is a slightly bigger target at 6')
So, it isn't all on Baker at all. But he needs surgery to be ready for next year. And the Browns need a big target, #1 WR you betcha.
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