Alright. Alright Alright... about halfway thru 2021 so time to start talking about who you are watchingng

SdBacker80

@gumby73 said:

What's your west coast opinion on this guy? Is he Garrett Wilson/Olave/ J.Williams gifted? I noted J. Williams can play both short & deep passing levels. KO returns but no Punt returns vs.Cats..

Can London do both in ST's ? Any former injury concerns? I've seen a lot of WR rankings are scattered on London at this point... Thanks !

Drake London WR ,

I think it was just the ankle this year. I don’t think he was a special teams guy at all at USC. He flashed right away at USC but of course put together the monster year this year.

I think he will be a matchup issue at the next level and huge red zone threat. He will eat the smaller corners alive. Pour through his highlights you see ALOT of contested catches. Looks covered but makes the catch…Climbing over guys (probably has a great vertical if he tests) and he plays through contact. Looks like a good route runner too. If he tests well (40 time) we will not see him with our pick.

I like wrestlers in the trenches and basketball players on the perimeter and he was a highly touted basketball player too. He went to USC to play football and Basketball

He’s probably learning the position a little more still than a guy like Garrett Wilson who has a tad more polish to his game (so I’d think Drake may have more upside).

gumby73

@sdbacker80 said:

I think it was just the ankle this year. I don’t think he was a special teams guy at all at USC. He flashed right away at USC but of course put together the monster year this year.

I think he will be a matchup issue at the next level and huge red zone threat. He will eat the smaller corners alive. Pour through his highlights you see ALOT of contested catches. Looks covered but makes the catch…Climbing over guys (probably has a great vertical if he tests) and he plays through contact. Looks like a good route runner too. If he tests well (40 time) we will not see him with our pick.

I like wrestlers in the trenches and basketball players on the perimeter and he was a highly touted basketball player too. He went to USC to play football and Basketball

He’s probably learning the position a little more still than a guy like Garrett Wilson who has a tad more polish to his game (so I’d think Drake may have more upside).

Thanks! good to know.. I don't see much left coast late games.. read somewhere his ankle was a fracture..

Seems like the buckeyes are a factory of DB's.. SC seems to turn out a factory of good route tree WR's.. https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/lists/usc-trojans-football-top-20-receivers-all-time/

This WR class of straight 40 times looks to be fast.. while just being fast, won't get WR's open at this next level.. Verticals.. DPJ jumped out of the gym.. but I have not seen him use it or a desire to go up/ fight for one.. to me, I'm stuck figuring out, if DPJ is WR2 or WR3?

I try to watch WR tape with a few things in mind../can they continue fast feet in turns on a dime?/hands?/ball security?/blocking?/can they physically rip off press man? any ST tangibles?

I certainly will check London out ?

tiamat63

This nose for UK... #50 vs Iowa right now. He's catching my eye. And if there's one thing I've been good at the last few years, it's finding mid to late round IDL.

gumby73

@tiamat63 said:

This nose for UK... #50 vs Iowa right now. He's catching my eye. And if there's one thing I've been good at the last few years, it's finding mid to late round IDL.

down south they call M&M's McCall... baby jordan davis... another 350 pound of man that can move

tiamat63

@gumby73 said:

down south they call M&M McCall... baby jordan davis... another 350 pound of man that can move

I wouldn't call him baby nothing. He's every bit the part of 350.

Get a big boy like that to shed 20lbs or so and you might have something.

gumby73

goes by Marquan McCall..

6'3 358lb on school site.. Played at Oak Park, Detroit Mi.

// Senior vs Senior... McCall vs. #1 rated Center from Iowa..

Dutch Oven

Watching the Notre Dame game now, made me think that ever since Chase Claypool was drafted by the Steelers, I've wanted the Browns to add someone like him to the WR group. (Without his personality, though)

Who are some big, physical WRs in this class?

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

Who are some big, physical WRs in this class?

Claypool & DK Metcalf had combine frames of 230's in a 6'3" frame..

Arkansas WR Treylon Burks plays in a physical SEC.. He's the closest built at 6"3" 225.... I'm a wait and see on Burks 40 time..Claypool 4.42 DK 4.33

Most compare Burks to AJ Brown

Dutch Oven

I can't remember who said they were interviewing Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson and Jaxon Smith-Njiba together (maybe Herbstreit?) but the interviewer point-blank asked all three who the best WR was in the room.

Both Olave and Wilson pointed at Smith-Njiba.

SdBacker80

@dutch-oven said:

I can't remember who said they were interviewing Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson and Jaxon Smith-Njiba together (maybe Herbstreit?) but the interviewer point-blank asked all three who the best WR was in the room.

Both Olave and Wilson pointed at Smith-Njiba.

It was Herbie…and route running and YAC ability absolutely- JSN is better here.

OSU will have a better duo next year if you can believe that JSN and Harrison Jr.

Dutch Oven

Looks like the Browns will draft somewhere between #10-18.

I'll take any of the following Big Ten players with the Browns first:

WR Chris Olave, Ohio State

WR Garrett Wilson, Ohio State

DE George Karlaftis, Purdue

DE David Ojabo, TTUN

Dutch Oven

I'm really torn on which Ohio State WR I would take if both were available...

What say you tia, Sdbacker, anyone else?

SdBacker80

@dutch-oven said:

I'm really torn on which Ohio State WR I would take if both were available...

What say you tia, Sdbacker, anyone else?

I’d go Wilson.

I like Olave a lot. He was a kid from San Diego but honestly I don’t remember his prep career all that well. OSU found him while recruiting a QB from his HS.

OSU fans probably see it somewhat like this too…He does the little things really well - not a big guy but blocks downfield. Special Teams ace (blocked two punts in his career), tracks the deep ball well and just has that knack to get open. Great speed but I Worry about him getting off press coverage at the next level.

it is January 2, I’m In the Wilson camp but I’m thinking Jordan Davis DT too.

Im not opposed to packaging this pick and others to get a QB either but I will not open that can of worms now

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

I'm really torn on which Ohio State WR I would take if both were available...

I can't remember the last time a Buckeye WR even went in the 1st round? Cris Carter nor Micheal Thomas went.. Now they see two ! I'd take 2 better than Terry McLaurin's at this point..

How much do you weigh the OBJ/Diggs factor? Play-calling/QB? I have a real concern of attracting a good FA WR if Landry is not paid again (tagged?) or walks? Could see 2 or 3 WR's drafted?

I've watched a ton of tape on WR Jameson Williams<<<<< that dude is solid in this 3 man race (Wilson/Olave) 1 looks to be gone before we get on clock.. ways to go

tiamat63

@dutch-oven said:

I'm really torn on which Ohio State WR I would take if both were available...

What say you tia, Sdbacker, anyone else?

Wilson would probably be my preference.

MLD Woody

I'd go Wilson too

But depending on where we pick, I think I'd prefer BPA and not reaching on need.

calfoxwc

IT's a deep wr draft - I won't be surprised if the Browns go best player - but Wilson IS that good. He may not even be there.

gumby73

time to notch this thread back up ️

Thanks to @unsympathetic ..I've found this link as the most compelling draft link out there... https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/teams/2022/cleveland-browns

Loads of good compiled findings can be found at top of link (I'd label it... "The board before prospects are put to any testings"

Just over 550 consensus Mock Drafts have been compiled into a rather competitive board..

Really enjoying it's Mock Draft Simulator... Drafting for Browns Needs ? Plenty of good trade back or Up options maybe needed..

Good Luck ! https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator (no signups are needed)

gumby73

No Trades.. Straight Up

Garrett Wilson.. in 10 attempts.. Got to pick 13.. only four times...

13

Round: 1

Garrett Wilson

WR | Ohio State
44

Round: 2

Arnold Ebiketie

EDGE | Penn State
78

Round: 3

John Metchie III

WR | Alabama
103

Round: 4

JoJo Domann

LB | Nebraska
114

Round: 4

Isaiah Likely

TE | Coastal Carolina
153

Round: 5

Brian Robinson Jr.

RB | Alabama
192

Round: 6

Justin Shaffer

IOL | Georgia
219

Round: 7

Cade York

K | LSU

I'm not mad with the Metchie selection in the 3rd... Cuz, most won't be happy with the position talent left at either opposites of Edge or DT left at 3rd... a FA DT (or 2) saves cap vs a Edge FA..

Tackles ? ain't none left worth a ?, after the 2nd round... Backup FA swing Tackle there also..

ATOM

@dutch-oven said:

I can't remember who said they were interviewing Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson and Jaxon Smith-Njiba together (maybe Herbstreit?) but the interviewer point-blank asked all three who the best WR was in the room.

Both Olave and Wilson pointed at Smith-Njiba.

good ole mel have us taking Wilson with the 13th pick