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The FIVE Biggest Reasons the Browns' Offense has Failed in 2021

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  • C calfoxwc

    @texasag1969 said:

    The midget has problems finding receivers

    Now, Tex. Drew Brees is an inch shorter. Struggled his first three? years in the NFL. Kyler Murray is 5'10". Russell Wilson is 5'11". And way back, Brian Sipe was only 6' tall. Older names - Johnny Unitas was as tall as Baker. Conner Weigman is only an inch taller than Baker.

        Conner Weigman??? nice find. I haven't looked at quarterbacks.

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    @calfoxwc said:

    Now, Tex. Drew Brees is an inch shorter. Struggled his first three? years in the NFL. Kyler Murray is 5'10". Russell Wilson is 5'11". And way back, Brian Sipe was only 6' tall. Older names - Johnny Unitas was as tall as Baker. Conner Weigman is only an inch taller than Baker.

        Conner Weigman??? nice find. I haven't looked at quarterbacks.

    And I have one more to add for long term at WR. Chris Marshall is a former basketball player at 6'4" with at least the same catch radius (very long arms) as Mike Evans. He was the #11 player in that video who made that rainbow pass catch before tapping both feet in bounds. Several pros who watched the UA AA practices/game have upped their take on him. Like Evans he only took up football his last two years in HS, but may prove out to be their hidden jewel from this recruiting class.

    PS-Baker's Combine measurement was 72.68 inches so not really quite 6'1" unless he starts throwing off his tiptoes.??

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      The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

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        The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

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        @neo said:

        The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

        yep. How does a game plan not feature designed plays to help Hudson? Their offense needs to be adjusted to account for injuries, dynamic opposing defensive players....... a lot of hard lessons learned? by the offensive coaching staff. Again, seems like the Browns do not make adjustments on the fly, or even during a game. I don't know.

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          The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

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          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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          @neo said:

          The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

          Coming out of camp, the word was Jok & Newsome would see starting snaps... James Hudson (as seen in camp) was far from seeing those..

          The loss of swing Tackle Chris Hubbard (in 39 snaps) might have been bigger? Hubbard took less pay/Callahan had Hubbard moving well/ready in pre-season.. I remember my groan/and walked outside to not see Chris get carted out..

          Four key injuries on offense the first two weeks of the season set the tone for the inconsistent year that followed, challenges the team could not overcome.

          In the opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, left tackle Jedrick Wills suffered an ankle injury(the 20th snap) that has limited him the entire season. Backup Chris Hubbard, a key to the team's success in 2020 suffered a season-ending tricep injury in the same game after replacing Wills.(In 39 snaps) The Browns were forced to play musical chairs on the offensive line the remaining 16 games of the season, starting with their fourth option at tackle, a guard in Blake Hance who had recently played center in the preseason.

          The following week against the Houston Texans, wide receiver Jarvis Landry suffered a sprained knee two snaps into the game, erasing the exhaustive efforts he put into changing his body during the offseason. He would miss games due to injury for the first time in his career and then sustain another injury to the same knee in the first game he returned against the Denver Broncos.

          That was followed up by quarterback Baker Mayfield tearing the labrum in his left shoulder (Texans). As soon Mayfield's shoulder dislocated, the team's viability as a contender ended.

          https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/disappointment-destiny-two-weeks-in

          All we heard was how early injury luck bit the ravens....well? we have surely had our share of bad luck early in seasons.. 

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            So, I was watching the Cincy-KC game on replay just a bit - KC went up 14-0, and cincy scored by throwing to Chase - who exploded sideways towards the middle of the field and went on to a TD.

            So, KC goes up 21-7.....and Burrow throws to Chase into the endzone from the 19 yard line for a TD.

            To that point, Ja'Marr Chase was 6 passes for 111 yards and two touchdowns.

            by the end of the game - Chase caught 11 passes for 266 yards and 3 touchdowns in a 34-31 win.

            Bengals vs. Chiefs score: Ja'Marr Chase explodes with ...

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            Bengals vs. Chiefs score: Ja'Marr Chase explodes with historic performance as Cincinnati wins AFC North The Bengals have won the AFC North for the first time since 2015
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              @canton-dawg said:

              Let’s include the GOAT Johnny Manziel, who was only 6’0” tall.

              He proved he was able to play in the NFL. It was not his physical attributes that kept him from being a success.

              WSS

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              @westside-steve said:

              He proved he was able to play in the NFL. It was not his physical attributes that kept him from being a success.

              WSS

              And that was the most disheartening aspect of JFF.

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                @neo said:

                The loss of Jack Conklin was huge. The guy they had in a RT in the Steelers game was a turnstile but you could hardly blame him, he was going against TJ Watt.  

                Coming out of camp, the word was Jok & Newsome would see starting snaps... James Hudson (as seen in camp) was far from seeing those..

                The loss of swing Tackle Chris Hubbard (in 39 snaps) might have been bigger? Hubbard took less pay/Callahan had Hubbard moving well/ready in pre-season.. I remember my groan/and walked outside to not see Chris get carted out..

                Four key injuries on offense the first two weeks of the season set the tone for the inconsistent year that followed, challenges the team could not overcome.

                In the opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, left tackle Jedrick Wills suffered an ankle injury(the 20th snap) that has limited him the entire season. Backup Chris Hubbard, a key to the team's success in 2020 suffered a season-ending tricep injury in the same game after replacing Wills.(In 39 snaps) The Browns were forced to play musical chairs on the offensive line the remaining 16 games of the season, starting with their fourth option at tackle, a guard in Blake Hance who had recently played center in the preseason.

                The following week against the Houston Texans, wide receiver Jarvis Landry suffered a sprained knee two snaps into the game, erasing the exhaustive efforts he put into changing his body during the offseason. He would miss games due to injury for the first time in his career and then sustain another injury to the same knee in the first game he returned against the Denver Broncos.

                That was followed up by quarterback Baker Mayfield tearing the labrum in his left shoulder (Texans). As soon Mayfield's shoulder dislocated, the team's viability as a contender ended.

                https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/browns-maven-features/disappointment-destiny-two-weeks-in

                All we heard was how early injury luck bit the ravens....well? we have surely had our share of bad luck early in seasons.. 

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                @gumby73 said:

                All we heard was how early injury luck bit the ravens....well? we have surely had our share of bad luck early in seasons.. 

                Good post Gumby! Who didn’t see Lamar Jackson getting injured?
                 

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                  @gumby73 said:

                  All we heard was how early injury luck bit the ravens....well? we have surely had our share of bad luck early in seasons.. 

                  Good post Gumby! Who didn’t see Lamar Jackson getting injured?
                   

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                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                  @canton-dawg said:

                  Good post Gumby! Who didn’t see Lamar Jackson getting injured?
                   

                  Might be the hardest part on Lamar's body to get with him running forward... JOK made it look easy 😉 when Lamar's feet were in reverse going backwards...

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    He proved he was able to play in the NFL. It was not his physical attributes that kept him from being a success.

                    WSS

                    And that was the most disheartening aspect of JFF.

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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    And that was the most disheartening aspect of JFF.

                    It surely was. Also rather than hate the guy I actually honest-to-god feel sorry for somebody that pissed away an opportunity like he did. Same thing with Josh Gordon.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      He proved he was able to play in the NFL. It was not his physical attributes that kept him from being a success.

                      WSS

                      And that was the most disheartening aspect of JFF.

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                      @canton-dawg said:

                      And that was the most disheartening aspect of JFF.

                      @westside-steve said:

                      It surely was. Also rather than hate the guy I actually honest-to-god feel sorry for somebody that pissed away an opportunity like he did. Same thing with Josh Gordon.

                      WSS

                      Yep, for sure. I had watch so many of his "miracle" games in college I thought sure he was the second coming of Fran the Man to the Browns. Addiction is a killer of dreams and talent.

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                        1. Baker Mayfield

                        2. Baker Mayfield

                        3. Injuries and COVID

                        4. Playcalling 

                        5. WR position 

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