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    Tricky question for some of you. Musk is only 50 but not a member of the free shit Society.

    https://greenlivingtribe.com/elon-musk-suggests-that-anyone-over-the-age-of-70-should-be-barred-from-running-for-public-office/

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Huh?

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Musk his doing his internet troll king / attention thing because Bernie said something he didn't like. That's clearly where this comment is coming from. 

        That being said I think implementing an age limit like this for public office would be a net positive

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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           I think the age limit should be 25.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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            I think there should be a Current Events questionnaire that you have to pass to be able to vote.

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              I think there should be a Current Events questionnaire that you have to pass to be able to vote.

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              @axe said:

              I think there should be a Current Events questionnaire that you have to pass to be able to vote.

              There should also be an intelligence test. 

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                @axe said:

                I think there should be a Current Events questionnaire that you have to pass to be able to vote.

                There should also be an intelligence test. 

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                @browns149 said:

                There should also be an intelligence test. 

                If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

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                  @browns149 said:

                  There should also be an intelligence test. 

                  If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of liberals would fail.😁

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                    @browns149 said:

                    There should also be an intelligence test. 

                    If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

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                      @browns149 said:

                      There should also be an intelligence test. 

                      If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

                      If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

                        If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

                        Except for the fact that I think a lot of people confuse intelligence with political ideology. Or college degrees. They are not the same even though you have a college degree.

                        For instance genius or not rumor has It that Einstein was pretty scatterbrained. An idiot savant can have a ridiculously high IQ.

                        That being said Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden. FWIW

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                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                          If there were an intelligence test, 90 percent of Americans would fail.😁

                          If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

                          Shouldn't that carry over to voting? Glad to see you are on board with a literacy test.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

                            Except for the fact that I think a lot of people confuse intelligence with political ideology. Or college degrees. They are not the same even though you have a college degree.

                            For instance genius or not rumor has It that Einstein was pretty scatterbrained. An idiot savant can have a ridiculously high IQ.

                            That being said Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden. FWIW

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Except for the fact that I think a lot of people confuse intelligence with political ideology. Or college degrees. They are not the same even though you have a college degree.

                            For instance genius or not rumor has It that Einstein was pretty scatterbrained. An idiot savant can have a ridiculously high IQ.

                            That being said Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden. FWIW

                            WSS

                            "I think people confuse intelligence for political ideology"

                            "Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden"

                            ...anyway

                            I don't expect to get anywhere with the discussion of specifically intelligence. A large portion of this country is very clearly anti expert, anti academics, anti science, etc. There isn't going to be agreement on intelligence.

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              If we're electing individuals to lead and represent us then it might help if they're intelligent

                              Shouldn't that carry over to voting? Glad to see you are on board with a literacy test.

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              Shouldn't that carry over to voting? Glad to see you are on board with a literacy test.

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                              WSS

                              I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                              It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                              Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                              Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Except for the fact that I think a lot of people confuse intelligence with political ideology. Or college degrees. They are not the same even though you have a college degree.

                                For instance genius or not rumor has It that Einstein was pretty scatterbrained. An idiot savant can have a ridiculously high IQ.

                                That being said Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden. FWIW

                                WSS

                                "I think people confuse intelligence for political ideology"

                                "Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden"

                                ...anyway

                                I don't expect to get anywhere with the discussion of specifically intelligence. A large portion of this country is very clearly anti expert, anti academics, anti science, etc. There isn't going to be agreement on intelligence.

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                "I think people confuse intelligence for political ideology"

                                "Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden"

                                If you can't listen to the speech patterns and make a distinction maybe you aren't as intelligent as you brag about being.

                                ...anyway

                                I don't expect to get anywhere with the discussion of specifically intelligence. A large portion of this country is very clearly anti expert, anti academics, anti science, etc. There isn't going to be agreement on intelligence.

                                Which absolutely has nothing to do with intelligence. Do you have the slightest idea how IQ as measured? I'm guessing you might but you just don't care.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Shouldn't that carry over to voting? Glad to see you are on board with a literacy test.

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                                  WSS

                                  I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                                  It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                                  Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                                  Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                                   glad you're on board with bringing back Jim Crow. Tell you what wait a politician suggest that and wait for blm to start burning down Strongsville. Okay

                                  It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                                   Education is by no means intelligence and even if you brag about being more intelligent than everyone else you're probably not. I don't know the percentage but I would imagine there are a great deal of semi-literate players in the NFL all with degrees. Or many.

                                  Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                                   just to be clear you are talking about the dimwits of the Democrat Party that won't possibly believe that anything could have been underhanded? But again that has nothing to do with intelligence.

                                  Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

                                  That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    "I think people confuse intelligence for political ideology"

                                    "Donald Trump is clearly more intelligent than Joe Biden"

                                    If you can't listen to the speech patterns and make a distinction maybe you aren't as intelligent as you brag about being.

                                    ...anyway

                                    I don't expect to get anywhere with the discussion of specifically intelligence. A large portion of this country is very clearly anti expert, anti academics, anti science, etc. There isn't going to be agreement on intelligence.

                                    Which absolutely has nothing to do with intelligence. Do you have the slightest idea how IQ as measured? I'm guessing you might but you just don't care.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Which absolutely has nothing to do with intelligence. Do you have the slightest idea how IQ as measured? I'm guessing you might but you just don't care.

                                    WSS

                                    Yes, right, you can have a high IQ and be a high school drop out. I get it. But that's generally going to be the exception to the rule. IQ and Educational Attainment have a correlation.

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                                       glad you're on board with bringing back Jim Crow. Tell you what wait a politician suggest that and wait for blm to start burning down Strongsville. Okay

                                      It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                                       Education is by no means intelligence and even if you brag about being more intelligent than everyone else you're probably not. I don't know the percentage but I would imagine there are a great deal of semi-literate players in the NFL all with degrees. Or many.

                                      Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                                       just to be clear you are talking about the dimwits of the Democrat Party that won't possibly believe that anything could have been underhanded? But again that has nothing to do with intelligence.

                                      Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

                                      That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

                                      WSS

                                      Wow the entirety of this response is insane and causes me to have to reply to things I never said and points I never made. What a shocker.

                                      I'll give this an attempt...

                                      - Again, I'm acknowledging the inherent bias. I'm not saying it should happen or that it's fair. Jumping down my throat for some Jim Crow gotcha after the initial IQ bases voting gotcha is completely misguided.

                                      - Tell me the last time I "bragged about being more intelligent than everyone." Intelligence and Education have a correlation. Again, just having a master's doesn't mean you have higher IQ than a high school drop out. I get statistics and how averages work. Using NFL players to "prove" your point here is ridiculous and I would hope it's fairly obvious why. And again, this very minor subset of individuals with very unique circumstances doesn't change the overall correlation

                                      - If you were to institute a test to weight votes I would be more concerned about their knowledge of current events, our government, etc than their ability to pattern match, etc. (IQ). Point being, which you proved, both political parties can't even agree on what the facts are. The right would consider it an unfair question to ask who won the election with the answer being Biden. That's asinine. 

                                      - sigh...and the last paragraph is just more of the same that I think I already replied to. AN IQ requirement (or something like that( for running for office and something like that for voting are two different issues with different considerations. 

                                      Yes, we get it, IQ isn't an end all be all

                                      Yes, we get it, political agenda will sway this subjective interpretation (you've already shown that)

                                      And please learn how to reply correctly

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

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                                          Wow the entirety of this response is insane and causes me to have to reply to things I never said and points I never made. What a shocker.

                                          I'll give this an attempt...

                                          - Again, I'm acknowledging the inherent bias. I'm not saying it should happen or that it's fair. Jumping down my throat for some Jim Crow gotcha after the initial IQ bases voting gotcha is completely misguided.

                                          - Tell me the last time I "bragged about being more intelligent than everyone." Intelligence and Education have a correlation. Again, just having a master's doesn't mean you have higher IQ than a high school drop out. I get statistics and how averages work. Using NFL players to "prove" your point here is ridiculous and I would hope it's fairly obvious why. And again, this very minor subset of individuals with very unique circumstances doesn't change the overall correlation

                                          - If you were to institute a test to weight votes I would be more concerned about their knowledge of current events, our government, etc than their ability to pattern match, etc. (IQ). Point being, which you proved, both political parties can't even agree on what the facts are. The right would consider it an unfair question to ask who won the election with the answer being Biden. That's asinine. 

                                          - sigh...and the last paragraph is just more of the same that I think I already replied to. AN IQ requirement (or something like that( for running for office and something like that for voting are two different issues with different considerations. 

                                          Yes, we get it, IQ isn't an end all be all

                                          Yes, we get it, political agenda will sway this subjective interpretation (you've already shown that)

                                          And please learn how to reply correctly

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Tell me the last time I "bragged about being more intelligent than everyone." Intelligence and Education have a correlation

                                          A. When have you NOT inferred directly or indirectly to "vaunted" intellectual superiority?

                                          B. No, education does not directly relate to intelligence.

                                          Why? Because I knew very, very high iq folks who loved their military careers and never went to college and got a degree in anything.

                                          My first programmer job, I was quickly up the responsibility chart, and was responsible for 47 savings and loans mortage payment calculations programming. Never made a mistake. I was right out of college.

                                          I only had a 2 yr degree. The guy next to me had a 4 year degree in computer science from Ohio State. couldn't program crap. Then they assigned him to an easy report generator language. He kept screwing up the code. They asked me to help him. I couldn't do it all for him, and eventually, they let him go.

                                          Everyone has something they are pretty good at. Yours is engineering. Mine was programming. etc etc etc etc.

                                          Had a furnace guy come out and do a yearly check on our furnace. Furnace guy... not smart? mediocre IQ?

                                          Turns out, while I was learning about furnaces etc from him, that he met his Wife in nursing school. He was in his fifth year, and got pretty sick a second time, and flunked a final.; Got kicked out of the program. Seriously. One semester from graduating.

                                             Our NC friends' daughter is close to graduating this year from nursing in college. Only eight are left in their entire class.

                                          Some of her friends went and worked in restaurants....hospital receptionists.....

                                          I have a friend who never went to college. He owns two businesses and makes a salary in the six figures.

                                          The student in NC from Germany - said hitler was very intelligent. But all too late - they found it was in a sick, profoundly and dangerously evil way.

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