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  • Axe AxeA Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      @westside-steve said:

      That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

      WSS

      Wow the entirety of this response is insane and causes me to have to reply to things I never said and points I never made. What a shocker.

      I'll give this an attempt...

      - Again, I'm acknowledging the inherent bias. I'm not saying it should happen or that it's fair. Jumping down my throat for some Jim Crow gotcha after the initial IQ bases voting gotcha is completely misguided.

      - Tell me the last time I "bragged about being more intelligent than everyone." Intelligence and Education have a correlation. Again, just having a master's doesn't mean you have higher IQ than a high school drop out. I get statistics and how averages work. Using NFL players to "prove" your point here is ridiculous and I would hope it's fairly obvious why. And again, this very minor subset of individuals with very unique circumstances doesn't change the overall correlation

      - If you were to institute a test to weight votes I would be more concerned about their knowledge of current events, our government, etc than their ability to pattern match, etc. (IQ). Point being, which you proved, both political parties can't even agree on what the facts are. The right would consider it an unfair question to ask who won the election with the answer being Biden. That's asinine. 

      - sigh...and the last paragraph is just more of the same that I think I already replied to. AN IQ requirement (or something like that( for running for office and something like that for voting are two different issues with different considerations. 

      Yes, we get it, IQ isn't an end all be all

      Yes, we get it, political agenda will sway this subjective interpretation (you've already shown that)

      And please learn how to reply correctly

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      @mld-woody said:

      Wow the entirety of this response is insane and causes me to have to reply to things I never said and points I never made. What a shocker.

      I'll give this an attempt...

      - Again, I'm acknowledging the inherent bias. I'm not saying it should happen or that it's fair. Jumping down my throat for some Jim Crow gotcha after the initial IQ bases voting gotcha is completely misguided.

      - Tell me the last time I "bragged about being more intelligent than everyone." Intelligence and Education have a correlation. Again, just having a master's doesn't mean you have higher IQ than a high school drop out. I get statistics and how averages work. Using NFL players to "prove" your point here is ridiculous and I would hope it's fairly obvious why. And again, this very minor subset of individuals with very unique circumstances doesn't change the overall correlation

      - If you were to institute a test to weight votes I would be more concerned about their knowledge of current events, our government, etc than their ability to pattern match, etc. (IQ). Point being, which you proved, both political parties can't even agree on what the facts are. The right would consider it an unfair question to ask who won the election with the answer being Biden. That's asinine. 

      - sigh...and the last paragraph is just more of the same that I think I already replied to. AN IQ requirement (or something like that( for running for office and something like that for voting are two different issues with different considerations. 

      Yes, we get it, IQ isn't an end all be all

      Yes, we get it, political agenda will sway this subjective interpretation (you've already shown that)

      And please learn how to reply correctly

      Honestly woodpecker I have no idea what you're talking about in your last sentence. I quote your post and add in my responses usually in bold. I don't know what you want except maybe just to be a pain in the ass. Send me a screenshot of what is pissing you off. It looks fine on this end.

      Probably not worth responding to it. At least you finally admit you've got some sort of grasp on the difference between intelligence and ideology. I wouldn't bet Joe Biden has a very high  IQ but the people that tell him what to do might. So what's the difference?

      And frankly if you're serious about your sliding scale or weighted system of voting fine. I'm no fan of democracy as you might know. Not that we are one nor have we ever been one. To be honest I don't think we were ever a representative Republic except maybe on paper and in speeches . Also I would much rather that people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground just stayed home and didn't vote. And it doesn't matter if Joe Biden's IQ is 106 or 85. He's not calling the shots anyway so who cares?

      I've also given my opinion on how fair or not the election was, I think the election was bulshit but I don't think it was individual instances of voter fraud that did it in. But if that's what you want to pretend hot dog.

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        Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

        https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

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          Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

          https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

          WSS

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

          https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

          WSS

          Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

          You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

          This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

          Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

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            @westside-steve said:

            Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

            https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

            WSS

            Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

            You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

            This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

            Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

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            @mld-woody said:

            Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

            You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

            This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

            Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

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              @westside-steve said:

              Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

              https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

              WSS

              Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

              You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

              This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

              Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

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              AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

              You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

              This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

              Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

              Value, just like religion, is in the eye of the beholder....

              A young man that has never been truly tested, never seen his life about to end views life, and religion differently than men that have.

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                @westside-steve said:

                Also you spent plenty of time being an a****** toward people of faith, spaghetti monster s*** you get it.

                https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

                WSS

                Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

                You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

                This post of yours though, this reply, this attempt at a gotcha is a great example of what I've referenced so many times. This is just thrown out there for no reason for me to reply to. We've gone from an IQ test for politicians to "well these scientists believed in God!" (According to that site). It adds no value in this back and forth. 

                Your other post too is just getting further and further off base. Oh well. 

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                @mld-woody said:

                Oh wow, people born in the 17th century believed in god? This is game changing! I'm a believer now....hope I pick the right one!

                You may want to look into Einstein's religious beliefs. 

                Of course there wer e plenty of atheists back then. But these days 90% of people believe in God as at very least he Supreme Being with 56% believing in the traditional God. And we've all heard you blather on about how a college education makes  one superior.

                But s*** talk about getting off the subject. No doubt people and their seventies could have slower synopsis. Of course people in their thirties haven't lived through that extra 40 years of life experience and are less likely to know their asses from holes in the ground. Or some Millennials and most gen Z who still live with Mom and Dad. I would say they don't have the experience to be trusted with a vote wouldn't you agree?

                Or people who have been on welfare their whole lives?

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Shouldn't that carry over to voting? Glad to see you are on board with a literacy test.

                  ?

                  WSS

                  I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                  It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                  Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                  Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                  .And to top that off a voter ID requirement. Right?

                   
                  Thats very conservative of you, and I agree, but I don't have to tell you who would vigorously oppose this as vigorously as they oppose voter ID.  So you may want to re-think that. 
                  You guys wouldn't be able to get any democrat elected having those kinds of requirements. It's been proven that conservatives are better informed than the left.
                   


                   

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      I've literally posted on here about a weighted voting system where an individual's vote combines history, current events, our political system, etc. 

                       glad you're on board with bringing back Jim Crow. Tell you what wait a politician suggest that and wait for blm to start burning down Strongsville. Okay

                      It has a lot of inherent bias though as not everyone has access to the same levels of education. 

                       Education is by no means intelligence and even if you brag about being more intelligent than everyone else you're probably not. I don't know the percentage but I would imagine there are a great deal of semi-literate players in the NFL all with degrees. Or many.

                      Plus, if the first question was "Who won the 2020 election?" you'd have the right freaking out over "political bias" in the answer. 

                       just to be clear you are talking about the dimwits of the Democrat Party that won't possibly believe that anything could have been underhanded? But again that has nothing to do with intelligence.

                      Also, we're talking about the representatives themselve, not who votes for them. Apples to oranges. 

                      That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

                      WSS

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      That's absolutely ridiculous. Considering that a man with 150 IQ or over could be a Nazi a tyrant or a pedophile or whatever you don't like, the damage is done by voters with an IQ of 67 who like his hair or not. A monkey with word for somebody who gives him a banana regardless of his IQ. Assuming again you know what and IQ is.

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                        Musk his doing his internet troll king / attention thing because Bernie said something he didn't like. That's clearly where this comment is coming from. 

                        That being said I think implementing an age limit like this for public office would be a net positive

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Musk his doing his internet troll king / attention thing because Bernie said something he didn't like. That's clearly where this comment is coming from. 

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                        That being said I think implementing an age limit like this for public office would be a net positive

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                          Would like to see an age cap, even if the tool Musk agrees ?

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                            https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/01/19/elected-officials-maximum-age-limit-poll?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=newsletter

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                              Would like to see an age cap, even if the tool Musk agrees ?

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                              @baconhound said:

                              Would like to see an age cap, even if the tool Musk agrees ?

                              Cool. Let's make it 45 through 85. Or how about 40 thru 80?

                              Plus I'm all about the literacy test that would only include employed property owners. We could run on the same ticket! Just to f*** with the voters.

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                                Age discrimination is illegal.  However, the best way would be a cognitive test in which case Biden would be removed from office immediately.

                                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                  Age discrimination is illegal.  However, the best way would be a cognitive test in which case Biden would be removed from office immediately.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  Age discrimination is illegal.  However, the best way would be a cognitive test in which case Biden would be removed from office immediately.

                                  Then what?

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    What do you think?

                                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                      hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                                      We’re stuck with Kamalhoe?

                                      guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                        We’re stuck with Kamalhoe?

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                                        @hammertime said:

                                        We’re stuck with Kamalhoe?

                                        Unfortunately yes.  But she will fuck things up so bad, guaranteed rep victory in 2024.

                                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                          @hammertime said:

                                          We’re stuck with Kamalhoe?

                                          Unfortunately yes.  But she will fuck things up so bad, guaranteed rep victory in 2024.

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          Unfortunately yes.  But she will fuck things up so bad, guaranteed rep victory in 2024.

                                          I’m not sure which is worse…

                                          The Democrats knew this was going to happen.  Hence Kamelhoe ?

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