It's All About The QB! Always has been!
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This isn't a knock On Stefanski, he wants a ball control offense. We can win with that, so this isn't so much a complaint as it is a observation.
My impression is if we had Jamar Chase, he would catch 40 balls for around 500 yards and 3-4 TD.s. Stefanski frustrated Stefon Diggs in Minnesota, and now OBJ in Cleveland, Both left their teams and looked like different players.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper. I'd rather expend resources on players who will impact our ball control O and our D.
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For his OC and head coaching career, Stef has had Case Keenum and Baker Mayfield as his QBs. It's pretty important to keep that perspective.
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we also beat them 5 out of the last 6 A healthy baker with the team we have around him can and will win and for anyone who thinks rogers or wilson is walking thru the door it aint gonna happen
We beat Borrow when he was a rookie. We DID beat him earlier in this season in what was probably our best game ever. (BTW, we only barely beat Detroit, with Goff out. And the spoiled little brat walked off the field without shaking anybody's hand and didn't do any interviews...because he played like dogshit)
Agreed, Rogers is not gonna come to Cleveland. We don't have any receivers...unless they can keep Landry...but they're not gonna keep him. I don't for the life of me know what they're going to do at receiver. We need a high draft pick and at least one veteran.
I will not at all be surprised to see Berry do something at QB. Our window is open now...but it might just be starting to inch off of wide open. Let's remember that Baker is not Stef or Berry's draft pick. Was Berry here when Baker was drafted? Yes. But it was Dorsey's show....and supposedly Dorsey didn't let anyone know which QB he was gonna take.
A lot of people wanna point out that Baker is the best QB we've had this century. Which might actually be true....but he's certainly had the best Browns team around any QB this century.
I supported him since that glorious Thursday night when he came in for Tyrod Taylor and proceeded to beat the Jets. I overlooked his stupid, cocky statements in the press. But now it's been 4 years of football from him and I don't see him as being someone that's any good in the clutch, I don't see him as being overly accurate with his passes, especially from the pocket and I've seen him do dumb things, like not throwing the ball to Felton who was standing about 8 yards away from him, all alone, 2 yards past the sticks...he looked right at him...but decided he was gonna run for the 1st down (it was 3rd down) and didn't make it...because he can't outrun a policeman but thought he was gonna outrun pro football players.
Sounds like I hate him doesn't it. But actually I hate the fact that I wanted the biggest, tallest drink of water with a strong arm...and we got the midget...who ain't all that!
Sounds like I hate him doesn't it. But actually I hate the fact that I wanted the biggest, tallest drink of water with a strong arm...and we got the midget...who ain't all that!
did ya get it all out ? ?
Breaking news....Hulu has live midgets !
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
This isn't a knock On Stefanski, he wants a ball control offense. We can win with that, so this isn't so much a complaint as it is a observation.
My impression is if we had Jamar Chase, he would catch 40 balls for around 500 yards and 3-4 TD.s. Stefanski frustrated Stefon Diggs in Minnesota, and now OBJ in Cleveland, Both left their teams and looked like different players.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper. I'd rather expend resources on players who will impact our ball control O and our D.
My impression is if we had Jamar Chase, he would catch 40 balls for around 500 yards and 3-4 TD.s. Stefanski frustrated Stefon Diggs in Minnesota, and now OBJ in Cleveland, Both left their teams and looked like different players.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper. I'd rather expend resources on players who will impact our ball control O and our D.
Except I think the Browns don't have a dynamic get open wr vs man to man. I've read where not even Landry has trouble getting open man to man all too often, depending on the match-up.
Burrow and Chase were a dynamic combination vs top cb's who went in the first round of the NFL draft. Chase make them frustrated.
The Browns MUST have that wr. FA/draft - they will fix it. The addition of Ja'Marr Chase to the Bengals is like the addition of Stephon Diggs to the Bills.
If all you need is a great qb to "raise the level of play"... Chase would not have been a huge addition to their offense.
Stephon Diggs was not happy with the Vikings. He wanted a new start elsewhere. If you look at the depth chart - in 2019 - they had:
Stephon Diggs. by far their best wr.
Adam Thielen - who was undreafted.
Chad Beebe - undrafted
and Olabisi Johnson - who was a 7th round pick.
That makes it really tough for Diggs - amazingly only a fifth round pick - to be successful.
Now, Diggs has Emmanuel Sanders and Beasley to get attention away from him right off the bat, along with Allen
taking off and running.
If the Browns had Chase - Landry and Peoples-Jones (and Schwartz stretching the field?) would make them pay, and Chase would then have a field day. The Browns offense would roll. The running game would open up like crazy.
The Browns went to the playoffs with obj being a big distraction - with no obj (or obj pretending to be "injured" etc... Mahomes and Allen would have been frustrated to the max if they had been with the Browns. Just what I think - we'll see next season.
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This isn't a knock On Stefanski, he wants a ball control offense. We can win with that, so this isn't so much a complaint as it is a observation.
My impression is if we had Jamar Chase, he would catch 40 balls for around 500 yards and 3-4 TD.s. Stefanski frustrated Stefon Diggs in Minnesota, and now OBJ in Cleveland, Both left their teams and looked like different players.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper. I'd rather expend resources on players who will impact our ball control O and our D.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper.
I hear ya...but if you get into a boat race against someone, you're dead in the water. And apparently it doesn't matter what the temperature is, the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals and probably the Chargers can all boat race ya. (and I've pretty much given up on Higgins)
Stef has had Case Keenum and Baker Mayfield as his QBs. It's pretty important to keep that perspective.
...there is that. Still though, I hope Stef and Berry watched the games this past weekend. That's the competition. Of course it doesn't matter much if ya don't mind having a goal as being the 5th best team in the conference.
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My impression is if we had Jamar Chase, he would catch 40 balls for around 500 yards and 3-4 TD.s. Stefanski frustrated Stefon Diggs in Minnesota, and now OBJ in Cleveland, Both left their teams and looked like different players.
My point is if we are going to bring top level receivers down to Rashard Higgins status, we might as well have guys like Higgins...it's way cheaper. I'd rather expend resources on players who will impact our ball control O and our D.
Except I think the Browns don't have a dynamic get open wr vs man to man. I've read where not even Landry has trouble getting open man to man all too often, depending on the match-up.
Burrow and Chase were a dynamic combination vs top cb's who went in the first round of the NFL draft. Chase make them frustrated.
The Browns MUST have that wr. FA/draft - they will fix it. The addition of Ja'Marr Chase to the Bengals is like the addition of Stephon Diggs to the Bills.
If all you need is a great qb to "raise the level of play"... Chase would not have been a huge addition to their offense.
Stephon Diggs was not happy with the Vikings. He wanted a new start elsewhere. If you look at the depth chart - in 2019 - they had:
Stephon Diggs. by far their best wr.
Adam Thielen - who was undreafted.
Chad Beebe - undrafted
and Olabisi Johnson - who was a 7th round pick.
That makes it really tough for Diggs - amazingly only a fifth round pick - to be successful.
Now, Diggs has Emmanuel Sanders and Beasley to get attention away from him right off the bat, along with Allen
taking off and running.
If the Browns had Chase - Landry and Peoples-Jones (and Schwartz stretching the field?) would make them pay, and Chase would then have a field day. The Browns offense would roll. The running game would open up like crazy.
The Browns went to the playoffs with obj being a big distraction - with no obj (or obj pretending to be "injured" etc... Mahomes and Allen would have been frustrated to the max if they had been with the Browns. Just what I think - we'll see next season.
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I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
You must have heard those rumors too.
Why the hell would Rodgers want to play behind that O line?!
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I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
....sadly, I'm expecting it...
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If demon seed Tom Brady retires, Rodgers could come in here and do serious damage.
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If demon seed Tom Brady retires, Rodgers could come in here and do serious damage.
If demon seed Tom Brady retires, Rodgers could come in here and do serious damage.
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It could be worse -- at least we're not paying 38.6M to Ryan Tannehill's Interception Machine next season..
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I sure as hell hope I don’t see this in the 2022 NFL season.
You must have heard those rumors too.
Why the hell would Rodgers want to play behind that O line?!
You must have heard those rumors too.
Why the hell would Rodgers want to play behind that O line?!
I hope he doesn't want to play there but it makes sense for him. It's a move that I would consider making if I were him. Pitt is on the same historical status level as green bay and they were good enough to make the playoffs with washed Ben. He could put them in a position to go to a Superbowl or two for his remaining time. I could also see the 49ers making a play for him over jimmy g.
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