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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @westside-steve said:

    Apparently not as easy as spinning and tap dancing to support your buddy Joe. Here's one more thing for the case of Let It Rip.

    • Those who previously had COVID-19 may wonder how strongly they are protected from the delta variant.
    • Natural immunity does, in many cases, protect people from reinfection. And when they do occur, they tend to be mild.
    • Due to the unknowns, some experts are advising people who have had COVID-19 to get one dose to boost their antibody levels.

     so let the covid-19 rip meaning that people would have been much more resistant to the deadly or form in Delta.

    WSS

    sigh

    I'll try to keep this going but I know it's pointless. 

    There are plenty of studies that show the benefit of the vaccine compared to just  natural immunity when it comes to protection, even if natural immunity is better than neither at all. 

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34383732/

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm7044e1_w

    It just feels like people are either making stuff up on their own or they're being told false information repeatedly to fit a narrative. The more something is repeated out in the open the more true it is to some, regardless of the evidence supporting it (or lack of evidence). For example, the fact that we had to go back and forth about fucking masks for months and people still want to fight that (with nothing concrete to back it up). 

    And I don't give two shits about supporting Joe. I support common sense and the results of scientific studies. If conservatives as a whole did that then I'd approve of what they're doing too. Unfortunately, like so many other scientific issues (climate change) this issue has been politicized to death. So if a third of our population sees The Blaze and Fox and Trump saying the same shit over and over they'll just assume it's true. 

    And yes, I get the communication has been poor in the past from Biden and liberals on covid. I get it. And the media has misrepresented scientific studies a bunch, they do with everything, and that only hurts the trust in the public's eyes. But the overall anti expert, anti academic sentiment in this country is just depressing as hell. The same fuckers that owe every modern convenience in their life to this shit will post on Facebook about how it's all some liberal conspiracy.

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    @mld-woody said:

    sigh

    I'll try to keep this going but I know it's pointless. 

    There are plenty of studies that show the benefit of the vaccine compared to just  natural immunity when it comes to protection, even if natural immunity is better than neither at all. 

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34383732/

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm7044e1_w

    It just feels like people are either making stuff up on their own or they're being told false information repeatedly to fit a narrative. The more something is repeated out in the open the more true it is to some, regardless of the evidence supporting it (or lack of evidence). For example, the fact that we had to go back and forth about fucking masks for months and people still want to fight that (with nothing concrete to back it up). 

    And I don't give two shits about supporting Joe. I support common sense and the results of scientific studies. If conservatives as a whole did that then I'd approve of what they're doing too. Unfortunately, like so many other scientific issues (climate change) this issue has been politicized to death. So if a third of our population sees The Blaze and Fox and Trump saying the same shit over and over they'll just assume it's true. 

    And yes, I get the communication has been poor in the past from Biden and liberals on covid. I get it. And the media has misrepresented scientific studies a bunch, they do with everything, and that only hurts the trust in the public's eyes. But the overall anti expert, anti academic sentiment in this country is just depressing as hell. The same fuckers that owe every modern convenience in their life to this shit will post on Facebook about how it's all some liberal conspiracy.

    As usual it's a capitalist conspiracy money and power. MSNBC and fox make money from frightened suckers like you head TuneIn to the programs or the websites or the fake studies and buy soap cars and financial products.

    I don't know and I'm too lazy to look up exactly how much advertising money changed hands during the War of the Worlds. I will guess it was substantial

    The natural evolution of science is not necessarily A Bad Thing. Completely freaking out and flooding the airwaves (for profit) with every little whim that turns out to be wrong or at least ineffective within weeks is bad. How do you say you don't love Joe Biden* if, as you said one of the reasons you voted for him was because Trump mishandled the covid. Who was his adviser that said the effect on America would be minuscule? The guy whose pud you suck today.

    But you want to play politics great. I'm saying there's a good chance things would have been better without you idiots locking down your States keeping people within their houses out of their jobs and out of the public and wearing masks as much as they could. Because the original coronavirus wasn't as bad as the Delta so if everybody got the original covid (we know what the numbers are, the types of people that get really sick.) You probably won't admit it but we do. That means more people with antibodies which means more people who get Delta don't get as sick. It's the same basis as the vaccine I don't know why you're so stubborn except for the fact you have to do what your party tells you. Which I think is crazy. Can Iguaranteeing everything would have been better? Hell no. 

    But it's reasonable case to make.

    WSS

    * who said or at least read it off a teleprompter, "if you get the vaccine you won't get covid."

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      It's like I'm taking to a wall. Points I've made already, things I've addressed, just in one ear and out the other. You reply as if no other responses happened since your last post. I've literally explained this shit, and my stance, and you don't attempt at all to absorb it. I have to imagine it's on purpose. And if you don't know what I'm talking about that's just proving my point.

      I'm out. So you can take the last response and claim your "victory". You'll even get a bunch of likes and replies from the MAGA idiot squad. 

      "Like playing chess with a pigeon"...

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

        It's like I'm taking to a wall. Points I've made already, things I've addressed, just in one ear and out the other. You reply as if no other responses happened since your last post. I've literally explained this shit, and my stance, and you don't attempt at all to absorb it. I have to imagine it's on purpose. And if you don't know what I'm talking about that's just proving my point.

        I'm out. So you can take the last response and claim your "victory". You'll even get a bunch of likes and replies from the MAGA idiot squad. 

        "Like playing chess with a pigeon"...

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        AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        It's like I'm taking to a wall. Points I've made already, things I've addressed, just in one ear and out the other. You reply as if no other responses happened since your last post. I've literally explained this shit, and my stance, and you don't attempt at all to absorb it. I have to imagine it's on purpose. And if you don't know what I'm talking about that's just proving my point.

        I'm out. So you can take the last response and claim your "victory". You'll even get a bunch of likes and replies from the MAGA idiot squad. 

        "Like playing chess with a pigeon"...

        Surrender duly noted

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          It's like I'm taking to a wall. Points I've made already, things I've addressed, just in one ear and out the other. You reply as if no other responses happened since your last post. I've literally explained this shit, and my stance, and you don't attempt at all to absorb it. I have to imagine it's on purpose. And if you don't know what I'm talking about that's just proving my point.

          I'm out. So you can take the last response and claim your "victory". You'll even get a bunch of likes and replies from the MAGA idiot squad. 

          "Like playing chess with a pigeon"...

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          @mld-woody said:

          "Like playing chess with a pigeon"...

          Which  makes  losing all the  more  painful. 

          WSS 

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            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-59901547

            OMG

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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                @westside-steve said:

                Apparently not as easy as spinning and tap dancing to support your buddy Joe. Here's one more thing for the case of Let It Rip.

                • Those who previously had COVID-19 may wonder how strongly they are protected from the delta variant.
                • Natural immunity does, in many cases, protect people from reinfection. And when they do occur, they tend to be mild.
                • Due to the unknowns, some experts are advising people who have had COVID-19 to get one dose to boost their antibody levels.

                 so let the covid-19 rip meaning that people would have been much more resistant to the deadly or form in Delta.

                WSS

                sigh

                I'll try to keep this going but I know it's pointless. 

                There are plenty of studies that show the benefit of the vaccine compared to just  natural immunity when it comes to protection, even if natural immunity is better than neither at all. 

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34383732/

                https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm7044e1_w

                It just feels like people are either making stuff up on their own or they're being told false information repeatedly to fit a narrative. The more something is repeated out in the open the more true it is to some, regardless of the evidence supporting it (or lack of evidence). For example, the fact that we had to go back and forth about fucking masks for months and people still want to fight that (with nothing concrete to back it up). 

                And I don't give two shits about supporting Joe. I support common sense and the results of scientific studies. If conservatives as a whole did that then I'd approve of what they're doing too. Unfortunately, like so many other scientific issues (climate change) this issue has been politicized to death. So if a third of our population sees The Blaze and Fox and Trump saying the same shit over and over they'll just assume it's true. 

                And yes, I get the communication has been poor in the past from Biden and liberals on covid. I get it. And the media has misrepresented scientific studies a bunch, they do with everything, and that only hurts the trust in the public's eyes. But the overall anti expert, anti academic sentiment in this country is just depressing as hell. The same fuckers that owe every modern convenience in their life to this shit will post on Facebook about how it's all some liberal conspiracy.

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                @mld-woody said:

                sigh

                I'll try to keep this going but I know it's pointless. 

                There are plenty of studies that show the benefit of the vaccine compared to just  natural immunity when it comes to protection, even if natural immunity is better than neither at all. 

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34383732/

                https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm7044e1_w

                It just feels like people are either making stuff up on their own or they're being told false information repeatedly to fit a narrative. The more something is repeated out in the open the more true it is to some, regardless of the evidence supporting it (or lack of evidence). For example, the fact that we had to go back and forth about fucking masks for months and people still want to fight that (with nothing concrete to back it up). 

                And I don't give two shits about supporting Joe. I support common sense and the results of scientific studies. If conservatives as a whole did that then I'd approve of what they're doing too. Unfortunately, like so many other scientific issues (climate change) this issue has been politicized to death. So if a third of our population sees The Blaze and Fox and Trump saying the same shit over and over they'll just assume it's true. 

                And yes, I get the communication has been poor in the past from Biden and liberals on covid. I get it. And the media has misrepresented scientific studies a bunch, they do with everything, and that only hurts the trust in the public's eyes. But the overall anti expert, anti academic sentiment in this country is just depressing as hell. The same fuckers that owe every modern convenience in their life to this shit will post on Facebook about how it's all some liberal conspiracy.

                Two days after you posted this, the CDC released this data: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7104e1-H.pdf

                It was a big study that looked at groups in Cali and NY. It found that those with natural immunity (i.e. - a previous COVID infection) had lower case rates of the Delta wave than those who were vaccinated alone. I don't agree with their conclusion that vaccination remains the safest strategy, but that's another conversation. 

                The data that we need to make big sweeping decisions for a situation like this won't be settled for years. It's a valid response to sit and wait and be skeptical of what they're pushing on us. The vaccine elitism from you and people like you is harmful - how many healthy and able people lost their jobs because they didn't want to get the vaccination? How many at-risk individuals didn't get vaccines early in the pandemic when supplies were limited because they were giving them to all the young and healthy?

                It's not just the media who's misrepresenting science - it's also the CDC suggesting that advocating for a herd immunity approach was "a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence."  Source: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32153-X/fulltext

                It's also the infallible Dr. Fauci (the hero worship of whom is nauseating), who pulled herd immunity numbers out of his ass throughout the pandemic. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html

                The anti-academic sentiment is deserved. The people making these decisions at the highest levels are making dogmatic recommendations instead of evidence-based recommendations. The data that is out there is conflicting, and they're treating it as if it's settled. And just as a counterpoint to the articles you posted, here's another one from Israel published in the same month with a larger sample size (largest of this type of study, published) that suggests conflicting findings to your studies. Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

                Look man, I don't know who's right and who isn't, and we aren't going to know that for a long time. Being dogmatic and opaque is what the people in charge are doing, and it's unfortunately going to result in a deserving erosion of public trust in the medical community. Your view is more dogmatic than you think, and you're just as susceptible to confirmation bias as everyone else. 

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                  May be an image of 2 people and text that says 'Dear Plexiglass, Thank you for protecting me from the cashier who just touched every single item I'Il be taking home with me. IG:@Evolved_Truth'

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    CDC chief tells staff to run 'cover' while she Googles own website for info
                    CLUELESS

                    CDC chief tells staff to run 'cover' while she Googles own website for info

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                      hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                      It’s to the point where all these folks who use the excuses of “I didn’t know” can go F themselves.

                      ignorance is not a defense to pure evil.

                      it being exposed daily.  People like ccc and texfag and queerpecker are going to burn in hell if they refuse to accept the truth.

                      guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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