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  • so what is his cap hit ? im thinking around 19 mil but i could be wrong

  • so what is his cap hit ? im thinking around 19 mil but i could be wrong

    @atom said:

    so what is his cap hit ? im thinking around 19 mil but i could be wrong

    Apparently $22M

  • I would still have zero problems with the Browns taking a WR in the first round. 

  • A late round pick to kick over tires and see if Amari plays to 80% of his potential.    As @unsympathetic said, zero dead as well.    

    It's a sound move by the Browns.  My only concern is the occasional stretch of drops that has plagued AC since he's come into the NFL.

  • we need this WR threat.  Landry will get traded and we will pick a WR in second round.

  • @atom said:

    so what is his cap hit ? im thinking around 19 mil but i could be wrong

    Apparently $22M

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Apparently $22M

    I read where it was 16 million.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Hard to see a spot for Landry now unless he seriously restructures. Makes you wonder if they are targeting a different value at #13 too. Not against it all, going to be great value in the 2nd round for WR talent.

    My stupid mock draft pick, Jalen Tolbert, S. Alabama ! lol. and Jameson Williams.... I really think it's defensive line/end at 13. It's going to be a very interesting draft.

  • we need this WR threat.  Landry will get traded and we will pick a WR in second round.

    @lbc-mike said:

    we need this WR threat.  Landry will get traded and we will pick a WR in second round.

    Landry will get restructured, & wants to be here. He's on the last year of his contract. dead cap is only $1.5 million.  We're not spending $35 million at the WR position, and we've got $20+ million tied up in the TE position with Njoku franchised, and Hooper making $11 million.  

  • Trade Faker Mayfair and Hooper for Watson

  • Solid WR choice for value given up..

    sadly, this sounds legit..  Source: #Browns still attempting to have Jarvis Landry restructure. The issue: Landry wants to add years to the deal, Cleveland seems hesitant on that front. Landry now has permission to seek a trade. Very fluid situation.

  • Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.

    Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.

    Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.

    If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper. 
     

    Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB 

  • I like the move... I'd still go WR #1 in the draft... Olave or wilson if there would be phenomenal but don't see it happening unless Browns move up...

  • I like the move... I'd still go WR #1 in the draft... Olave or wilson if there would be phenomenal but don't see it happening unless Browns move up...

    @nickers said:

    I like the move... I'd still go WR #1 in the draft... Olave or wilson if there would be phenomenal but don't see it happening unless Browns move up...

    theres london burks olave and wilson  I am sure one of which will be available  without having to move up or we just go d-line 

  • Yeah I’m not crazy about this one.

    Looks like we are taking on a lot of money…and losing Landry.

    Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry? Considering his Play and intangibles.

    If Landry restructures and we add another 2/3 type via free agency you get to the same cap number we have now with Cooper. 
     

    Who cares really…just shuffling chairs on the deck of the titanic until we get a QB 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry?

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

  • from OTC..

    The Browns have been desperate for wide receivers and decided to opt into Cooper’s $20 million salary for this season rather than chance losing him in free agency to another team. It is an interesting discussion about value in the NFL. On one hand the only risk they have with Cooper is the $20 million for this year, but that $20 million is the 4th highest salary for a receiver in the NFL at this time. If he plays well enough then they will need to pay $20 million next season, currently the highest salary for WR’s in 2023.

    Had they signed him in free agency they certainly would have guaranteed him more money, maybe as much as $40 million, but a two year salary in the range of $32 to $35 million rather than $40. Given that Dallas was willing to do a deal for a 5th rounder also should have been an indication to Cleveland that there was a very limited market for him at this price.

    Of course nothing prevents them from trying to negotiate a better contract with him. In fact I would not be surprised if they did something along those lines by guaranteeing him his 2023 salary in return for a salary reduction. If Cooper is not a top flight receiver they can always work on a cheaper contract in 2023.

    Cooper will carry a $20 million salary cap charge in 2022, 2023, and 2024. Only this year’s salary carries any guarantee. The Browns will need to clear cap space to execute the trade as Cooper $20 million cap hit would put them about $3 million over the cap. The most logical move is to either release Jarvis Landry or to attempt to get him to take a pay cut. Landry counts for $16.4 million on the salary cap and they would free up $14.9 million with his release.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry?

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

    And I think you and I and some others know the answer to that question 

  • @lbc-mike said:

    we need this WR threat.  Landry will get traded and we will pick a WR in second round.

    Landry will get restructured, & wants to be here. He's on the last year of his contract. dead cap is only $1.5 million.  We're not spending $35 million at the WR position, and we've got $20+ million tied up in the TE position with Njoku franchised, and Hooper making $11 million.  

    @hoorta said:

    Landry will get restructured, & wants to be here. He's on the last year of his contract. dead cap is only $1.5 million.  We're not spending $35 million at the WR position, and we've got $20+ million tied up in the TE position with Njoku franchised, and Hooper making $11 million.  

    I've been reading that now Landry is requesting a trade

  • @tiamat63 said:

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

    And I think you and I and some others know the answer to that question 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    And I think you and I and some others know the answer to that question 

    I'm willing to give him enough rope to find out.

  • I would still have zero problems with the Browns taking a WR in the first round. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I would still have zero problems with the Browns taking a WR in the first round. 

    I don't see it, not now. Maybe in the 2nd or 3rd though.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Is Amari even a clear upgrade over Landry?

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    In certain respects.  As a vertical option where Amari shines? Absolutely.

    Getting him the ball downfield is another matter entirely.

    This was a move to help demonstrate whether Baker will be paid this time next year. 

    That carries the pungent scent of another wasted year ?

  • Hard to see a spot for Landry now unless he seriously restructures. Makes you wonder if they are targeting a different value at #13 too. Not against it all, going to be great value in the 2nd round for WR talent.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Hard to see a spot for Landry now

    In the slot 🙂 ...not what you meant but it's where I like him playing.  I hope he gets a deal done to stay here.  

    A huge need has been addressed.  A solid veteran WR has been added to WR room.  The pressure to take a WR at pick 13 is now off.   Of course you can still pick one...but if your coveted guy(s) isn't there, you can snag one in rounds 2 or 3.