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  • After comparing their stats….not much of an upgrade.

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    @canton-dawg said:

    After comparing their stats….not much of an upgrade.

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    That's precisely how you sell a trade to Houston. Baker and two firsts. Can't go wrong!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Serious question:

    Do you think there is a defensive coordinator that loses one minute of sleep the week leading up to playing against Baker Mayfield?

    Baker himself? Not likely. 

    But against what the offensive line and running game creates?  Yes.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Baker himself? Not likely. 

    But against what the offensive line and running game creates?  Yes.

    Imagine having someone who can throw the ball alongside that OL and running game

  • @canton-dawg said:

    After comparing their stats….not much of an upgrade.

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    That's precisely how you sell a trade to Houston. Baker and two firsts. Can't go wrong!

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    That's precisely how you sell a trade to Houston. Baker and two firsts. Can't go wrong!

    Take a peek at Watson’s contract. ?

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Baker himself? Not likely. 

    But against what the offensive line and running game creates?  Yes.

    Imagine having someone who can throw the ball alongside that OL and running game

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Imagine having someone who can throw the ball alongside that OL and running game

    Imagine having a play caller who will stay with the run game each and every week.

  • @mr.-make-believe said:

    Imagine having someone who can throw the ball alongside that OL and running game

    Imagine having a play caller who will stay with the run game each and every week.

    @d-bone said:

    Imagine having a play caller who will stay with the run game each and every week.

    Please explain this to us using girls softball as reference... 

    ?

  • @jrb12711 said:

     And don’t even get me started on any of you mofos who would support Deshaun who called Big Ben a rapist.

    You are absolutely correct. 

    The hypocrisy would be staggering. 

    Here's the thing: Watson has a no-trade clause in his contract. Even if the Browns want him, he might not want them back.

    @dutch-oven said:

    You are absolutely correct. 

    The hypocrisy would be staggering. 

    Here's the thing: Watson has a no-trade clause in his contract. Even if the Browns want him, he might not want them back.

    Texans willing to waive the no trade clause... Watson wants out, but he can call the shots, and reports are wants to go to a contender.. If Houston is asking a Wilson level three firsts + players, no thanks.  ESPN saying Carolina and possibly Tampa are interested.  

  • @d-bone said:

    Imagine having a play caller who will stay with the run game each and every week.

    Please explain this to us using girls softball as reference... 

    ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Please explain this to us using girls softball as reference... 

    ?

    Down 1 and my #3 batter who can't drop a bunt to save her life is up with runners on 2nd and 3rd and 1 out, I don't put on a suicide squeeze.

    When my rise ball pitcher is in the circle, up 1, bottom of the 7th and bases loaded, I don't call a drop ball.

    When my #1 hitter is up who leads the team in OB % and BB's (walks for you Neanderthals), I don't call a 1st pitch hit and run with a runner at 1st.

    When my 6 batter who is the slowest runner on the team is on 1st, down 1 in the top of the 6th, I don't ask her to steal.

    ^ Pretty sure you get the point, but for those in the back of the class who had their phones pressed into their faces instead of listening to the teacher, I'll break it down for you...

    Be who you are. If you're going to lose, lose doing the best thing you can do. Don't ask something out of an athlete that you know they don't do well. Ask your athlete to do what they do well. 

    If you live and die by the long ball in the previous 162 games, don't go small ball once you get to the postseason. If you live and die by the 3 pointer, don't ask your team to drive to the hoop in game 1. (did I say that right? I've never seen more than 60 seconds of basketball in my life) 

    With 2:00 to go in the 3rd, down 7, with the ball on your 37, don't ask your injured QB - that should not even be playing and who's had a terrible day, to go win you a game with 3 passes in a row and 2 from an empty set...... Ask the best player on your team, behind the best unit on your team to go win you a game, all while punching a tiring defense in the mouth and keeping them on the field as the 4th quarter quickly approaches.

    ...... but what do I know? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    You are absolutely correct. 

    The hypocrisy would be staggering. 

    Here's the thing: Watson has a no-trade clause in his contract. Even if the Browns want him, he might not want them back.

    Texans willing to waive the no trade clause... Watson wants out, but he can call the shots, and reports are wants to go to a contender.. If Houston is asking a Wilson level three firsts + players, no thanks.  ESPN saying Carolina and possibly Tampa are interested.  

    @hoorta said:

    Texans willing to waive the no trade clause... Watson wants out, but he can call the shots, and reports are wants to go to a contender.. If Houston is asking a Wilson level three firsts + players, no thanks.  ESPN saying Carolina and possibly Tampa are interested.  

    Trading for cooper puts the browns 3 or 4m over the cap. If the Browns were to trade for Watson your FO would have to clear a ton of room. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Texans willing to waive the no trade clause... Watson wants out, but he can call the shots, and reports are wants to go to a contender.. If Houston is asking a Wilson level three firsts + players, no thanks.  ESPN saying Carolina and possibly Tampa are interested.  

    Trading for cooper puts the browns 3 or 4m over the cap. If the Browns were to trade for Watson your FO would have to clear a ton of room. 

    @vagitron said:

    Trading for cooper puts the browns 3 or 4m over the cap. If the Browns were to trade for Watson your FO would have to clear a ton of room. 

    landry and tretter are more than likely going to play  somewhere else so that would free up around 27 mil

  • Well this could be interesting... 

    I mean, I think it is pretty apparent this front office is not sold on Baker long-term (as of today), and this is the front office that brought in Kareem Hunt... 

    I'm not saying to go and get him, and I'm not saying the Browns are going to do it, but would it shock me if they tried?

    No, no it would not. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    and this is the front office that brought in Kareem Hunt... 

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    and this is the front office that brought in Kareem Hunt... 

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    @orion said:

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    Oh wow, you are right... man, I can't believe he's been here that long. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    and this is the front office that brought in Kareem Hunt... 

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    @orion said:

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    How ironic......in a strange way,  the steelers may be becoming the place old BROWNS go to be recycled ♻️ before leaving the NFL to be released back into the world ? to live. 

    And now without the old Findlay Ohio product Big Ben Roethlisberger stranger and stranger.......if he's truly 100% done collecting Pittsburgh million dollar paychecks. 

    Strange, the TB12 effect of old(er) white retirement age of quarterbacks and the newer NFL no touch rules. 

    40 the new 35 before going into the booth ?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    and this is the front office that brought in Kareem Hunt... 

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    @orion said:

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    egad, apparently the slutty steelers won't even sign him. That is very bad.

    Report: Steelers are not interested in Deshaun Watson ...

    4 days agoThe Dolphins insist " the door is shut " on a Watson trade. Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazett e now reports that the quarterback-needy Steelers are not interested in Watson. Dulac even ...

    Steelers are not interested in pursuing Deshaun Watson ...

    The Pittsburgh Steelers will have a new quarterback in 2022, but it won't be Deshaun Watson.Pittsburgh is not interested in pursuing the Houston Texans' quarterback, according to Gerry Dulac of ...
  • @orion said:

    I believe that was Dorsey.  I'm not sure what Berry might think of Watson.   

    He'll probably wind up a Steeler...

    egad, apparently the slutty steelers won't even sign him. That is very bad.

    Report: Steelers are not interested in Deshaun Watson ...

    4 days agoThe Dolphins insist " the door is shut " on a Watson trade. Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazett e now reports that the quarterback-needy Steelers are not interested in Watson. Dulac even ...

    Steelers are not interested in pursuing Deshaun Watson ...

    The Pittsburgh Steelers will have a new quarterback in 2022, but it won't be Deshaun Watson.Pittsburgh is not interested in pursuing the Houston Texans' quarterback, according to Gerry Dulac of ...

    @calfoxwc said:

    egad, apparently the slutty steelers won't even sign him. That is very bad.

    Report: Steelers are not interested in Deshaun Watson ...

    4 days agoThe Dolphins insist " the door is shut " on a Watson trade. Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazett e now reports that the quarterback-needy Steelers are not interested in Watson. Dulac even ...

    Steelers are not interested in pursuing Deshaun Watson ...

    The Pittsburgh Steelers will have a new quarterback in 2022, but it won't be Deshaun Watson.Pittsburgh is not interested in pursuing the Houston Texans' quarterback, according to Gerry Dulac of ...

    From what I’ve been reading, it sounds as if Carolina and Seattle are the 2 the most eligible suitors for DW.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    egad, apparently the slutty steelers won't even sign him. That is very bad.

    Report: Steelers are not interested in Deshaun Watson ...

    4 days agoThe Dolphins insist " the door is shut " on a Watson trade. Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazett e now reports that the quarterback-needy Steelers are not interested in Watson. Dulac even ...

    Steelers are not interested in pursuing Deshaun Watson ...

    The Pittsburgh Steelers will have a new quarterback in 2022, but it won't be Deshaun Watson.Pittsburgh is not interested in pursuing the Houston Texans' quarterback, according to Gerry Dulac of ...

    From what I’ve been reading, it sounds as if Carolina and Seattle are the 2 the most eligible suitors for DW.

    @canton-dawg said:

    From what I’ve been reading, it sounds as if Carolina and Seattle are the 2 the most eligible suitors for DW.

    Come on Man ! leave our Carolina redneck massage women out of this ?.... how bout he becomes a Saint? ? and nobody gets harmed  ....  carry on! off my chest

  • There is no way if I'm a GM I'm shelling out multiple first rounders, young defensive talent AND that kinda money in a contract for a guy who is going to be suspended starting the year.  Whining and giving up on your team is a great look too.. Not to mention being hinged on the fact he might get popped by a 23rd woman any day..

    If he was a free agent and I'll I had to do was pay him...

  • Watson would be an upgrade over Baker, but it's a moot point since the Browns can't afford him:

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    Browns are over the cap after picking up Cooper's contract, and there's no way Berry would gut the team to clear enough cap space to pick up Watson.

  • Watson would be an upgrade over Baker, but it's a moot point since the Browns can't afford him:

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    Browns are over the cap after picking up Cooper's contract, and there's no way Berry would gut the team to clear enough cap space to pick up Watson.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Watson would be an upgrade over Baker, but it's a moot point since the Browns can't afford him:

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    Browns are over the cap after picking up Cooper's contract, and there's no way Berry would gut the team to clear enough cap space to pick up Watson.

    I don't think you have to "gut" the team to get there. Cutting Keenam, Jarvis and Hooper while trading Mayfield gets you there and many of those may be moves they're already considering.

    Granted, you would have to replace spots on the roster, so more creativity would be required. But there have been teams in far worse condition who have made it work. 

    Not proposing they do it. Just saying it could be done without losing much from the roster that is particularly productive.

    EDIT: I guess it would be a restructuring for Hooper rather than a cut which doesn't save much. But you could potentially do better than my numbers if done right. 

  • Cutting Hooper after 6/1 [or, i suppose "formally to take effect" 6/1] is only 3.75 dead with a 9.5 savings.. 3.6 is carried in 2022 for Clowney and he likely won't be here.

    Problem is that Stef's offense uses 2 TE's and only Njoku can start.  Harrison Bryant needs to improve to be more than a sub.

  • from what i gather it was mayfield newsome hunt and 2 first round picks