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  • N Neo

    @bob806 said:

    He didn't handle the pandemic correctly initially

    No, he completely shit the fucking bed when it came to his pandemic response. And his supporters give him credit for operation warp speed but refuse to get vaccinated. Figure that one out.

    @neo said:

    No, he completely shit the fucking bed when it came to his pandemic response. And his supporters give him credit for operation warp speed but refuse to get vaccinated. Figure that one out.

    Can't figure it out.

    We used to be a nation about caring for each other. While some of that still exists (thankfully) I think the media does a disservice to our nation by creating too many labels (color, nationality, male, female, etc). 

    The pandemic brought out lots of ugly behavior, its horrible.

  • @westside-steve said:

    People often talk of a republican majority and I think that's off base. Many of the Republicans hated Trump because he upset the apple cart. It's not so much Republican or Democrat it's the power structure it's the ruling class and they did not like an outsider coming in and making them look like fools. They wanted Jeb Bush or some other milquetoast. So you had Democrat who will hate any Republican and you had never trumper's who didn't want the upstart to succeed.

    WSS

    Ding ding ding....winner!!!

    See, it's not about the "we the people" after all, is it? It's about the establishment, the PARTY. Thank you, I guess I didn't get my point across well enough.

    Not trying to give you too much crap, but in regards to the BLM stuff, you brought it up, not I. 

    Like the Clinton's & Bush's, it's time for Trump to go away. It's divided the R party....if he goes away then the Rs have a truly great chance of recapturing the White House. Nobody's happy now.

    @bob806 said:

    Ding ding ding....winner!!!

    See, it's not about the "we the people" after all, is it? It's about the establishment, the PARTY. Thank you, I guess I didn't get my point across well enough.

    Not trying to give you too much crap, but in regards to the BLM stuff, you brought it up, not I. 

    Like the Clinton's & Bush's, it's time for Trump to go away. It's divided the R party....if he goes away then the Rs have a truly great chance of recapturing the White House. Nobody's happy now.

    If you give it back to Republicans it become a rinse and repeat.  We need an outsider, not necessarily Trump.  This current structure we have is a heap of corruption on both sides.  I believe it’s referred to as the SWaMp.

    We need to drain the Swamp.

    i should add that if the outsider uses a party to get elected I’m fine, just don’t be part of the swamp.

  • @westside-steve said:

    People often talk of a republican majority and I think that's off base. Many of the Republicans hated Trump because he upset the apple cart. It's not so much Republican or Democrat it's the power structure it's the ruling class and they did not like an outsider coming in and making them look like fools. They wanted Jeb Bush or some other milquetoast. So you had Democrat who will hate any Republican and you had never trumper's who didn't want the upstart to succeed.

    WSS

    Ding ding ding....winner!!!

    See, it's not about the "we the people" after all, is it? It's about the establishment, the PARTY. Thank you, I guess I didn't get my point across well enough.

    Not trying to give you too much crap, but in regards to the BLM stuff, you brought it up, not I. 

    Like the Clinton's & Bush's, it's time for Trump to go away. It's divided the R party....if he goes away then the Rs have a truly great chance of recapturing the White House. Nobody's happy now.

    @bob806 said:

    Ding ding ding....winner!!!

    See, it's not about the "we the people" after all, is it? It's about the establishment, the PARTY. Thank you, I guess I didn't get my point across well enough.

    Not trying to give you too much crap, but in regards to the BLM stuff, you brought it up, not I. 

    Like the Clinton's & Bush's, it's time for Trump to go away. It's divided the R party....if he goes away then the Rs have a truly great chance of recapturing the White House. Nobody's happy now.

    I did bring up b l m. It was a huge part of the Democrats plan to win. I'm not sure Trump even mentioned it at least didn't make a flagship issue of it. And you are correct Joe Biden is President and the Democrats control the houses. Nobody's happy. Nothing much to be happy about.

    But if either party, and I need to be just general about this, decides the best way to keep power is to start imitating the things that their enemies do,  who cares if that party exists or not?

    WSS

  • @bob806 said:

    Ding ding ding....winner!!!

    See, it's not about the "we the people" after all, is it? It's about the establishment, the PARTY. Thank you, I guess I didn't get my point across well enough.

    Not trying to give you too much crap, but in regards to the BLM stuff, you brought it up, not I. 

    Like the Clinton's & Bush's, it's time for Trump to go away. It's divided the R party....if he goes away then the Rs have a truly great chance of recapturing the White House. Nobody's happy now.

    I did bring up b l m. It was a huge part of the Democrats plan to win. I'm not sure Trump even mentioned it at least didn't make a flagship issue of it. And you are correct Joe Biden is President and the Democrats control the houses. Nobody's happy. Nothing much to be happy about.

    But if either party, and I need to be just general about this, decides the best way to keep power is to start imitating the things that their enemies do,  who cares if that party exists or not?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    But if either party, and I need to be just general about this, decides the best way to keep power is to start imitating the things that their enemies do,  who cares if that party exists or not?

    WSS

    Right. The differences today are fairly minimal with the parties. 

    Citizens United helped create that mess. We little folk are outcasts.

  • @westside-steve said:

    But if either party, and I need to be just general about this, decides the best way to keep power is to start imitating the things that their enemies do,  who cares if that party exists or not?

    WSS

    Right. The differences today are fairly minimal with the parties. 

    Citizens United helped create that mess. We little folk are outcasts.

    @bob806 said:

    Right. The differences today are fairly minimal with the parties. 

    Citizens United helped create that mess. We little folk are outcasts.

    Then again despite my bloviating about this party or that party at the end of the day no politician is responsible for my happiness or success or lack thereof.

    WSS 

  • @bob806 said:

    Right. The differences today are fairly minimal with the parties. 

    Citizens United helped create that mess. We little folk are outcasts.

    Then again despite my bloviating about this party or that party at the end of the day no politician is responsible for my happiness or success or lack thereof.

    WSS 

    @westside-steve said:

    Then again despite my bloviating about this party or that party at the end of the day no politician is responsible for my happiness or success or lack thereof.

    WSS 

    Truth. Some policies may irk us more than others, but the USA is still great.

  • N Neo

    @bob806 said:

    He didn't handle the pandemic correctly initially

    No, he completely shit the fucking bed when it came to his pandemic response. And his supporters give him credit for operation warp speed but refuse to get vaccinated. Figure that one out.

    @neo said:

    No, he completely shit the fucking bed when it came to his pandemic response. And his supporters give him credit for operation warp speed but refuse to get vaccinated. Figure that one out.

    Only a simpleton unable to figure it out. To begin with you're making generalizations as you tards always do. Look the word up.

    Giving Trump the credit he deserves for getting the vax out doesn't change the fact that taking the vax still remains a matter of choice.

    Was I glad the vax finally came out? Hell yes. But was I gonna take it? No. It wasn't until a year later when I decided to take the jab.

    Hope that helped you understand.

    To say Trump shit the bed over the pandemic is just another indication of your ignorance in combination with TDS.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Then again despite my bloviating about this party or that party at the end of the day no politician is responsible for my happiness or success or lack thereof.

    WSS 

    Truth. Some policies may irk us more than others, but the USA is still great.

    @bob806 said:

    Truth. Some policies may irk us more than others, but the USA is still great.

    To you maybe. But younger generations are taught that it is not great, it never was. We are evil.

    Liberals like Neo are taught that our very founding was illegitimate, that we are a racist nation, that because of us poor countries exist.  

  • @calfoxwc said:

    It's tough, Bob. But your vote was wasted, it wasn't even a valid choice - you elected to vote to not help America win with your vote. But it isn't just you- tens of thousands here and there also did.   Just seems to me you didn't take the dangers seriously. The fault is seriously on every voter who didn't take it seriously.

    Well when these Rs & Ds stop putting party & platform over country, I'll take them seriously. They have a lot to do to earn my vote or votes. 

    @bob806 said:

    Well when these Rs & Ds stop putting party & platform over country, I'll take them seriously. They have a lot to do to earn my vote or votes. 

    No Bob, no. Don't you know that if everyone voted for Trump there would be no bad things in the world right now? Literally every bad thing that is happening now is only happening because Biden took over a lot over a year ago. Those bad things literally didn't get into motion until that point. If Trump was here nothing bad would be happening. Fact. 

  • @bob806 said:

    C'mon Cal, he had a Republican majority on Capitol Hill for 2 years. Two years, and he blamed McCain for sabotaging the health care vote....ok, then come up with a better plan to vote on.

    That's called a broken campaign promise. He lured in people like me on that premise/promise alone in 2016.

    The other stuff, like Ukraine, I can believe some of your rant there, Rs are generally better at foreign policy IMHO. Biden has at least been consistent regarding the NATO/Ukraine situation...if Russia attacks a NATO nation (let's hope not) then he will be truly tested.

    My vote did not destroy the country. I am not obligated to vote for a R or D, neither is anybody else. 

    People often talk of a republican majority and I think that's off base. Many of the Republicans hated Trump because he upset the apple cart. It's not so much Republican or Democrat it's the power structure it's the ruling class and they did not like an outsider coming in and making them look like fools. They wanted Jeb Bush or some other milquetoast. So you had Democrat who will hate any Republican and you had never trumper's who didn't want the upstart to succeed.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    People often talk of a republican majority and I think that's off base. Many of the Republicans hated Trump because he upset the apple cart. It's not so much Republican or Democrat it's the power structure it's the ruling class and they did not like an outsider coming in and making them look like fools. They wanted Jeb Bush or some other milquetoast. So you had Democrat who will hate any Republican and you had never trumper's who didn't want the upstart to succeed.

    WSS

    And much of this goes both ways

  • @bob806 said:

    Well when these Rs & Ds stop putting party & platform over country, I'll take them seriously. They have a lot to do to earn my vote or votes. 

    No Bob, no. Don't you know that if everyone voted for Trump there would be no bad things in the world right now? Literally every bad thing that is happening now is only happening because Biden took over a lot over a year ago. Those bad things literally didn't get into motion until that point. If Trump was here nothing bad would be happening. Fact. 

    @mld-woody said:

    No Bob, no. Don't you know that if everyone voted for Trump there would be no bad things in the world right now? Literally every bad thing that is happening now is only happening because Biden took over a lot over a year ago. Those bad things literally didn't get into motion until that point. If Trump was here nothing bad would be happening. Fact. 

    Of course if anything bad did happen, or even if it didn't, you guys who pretend to be open-minded would be burning down cities across the US.

    WSS

  • @neo said:

    No, he completely shit the fucking bed when it came to his pandemic response. And his supporters give him credit for operation warp speed but refuse to get vaccinated. Figure that one out.

    Can't figure it out.

    We used to be a nation about caring for each other. While some of that still exists (thankfully) I think the media does a disservice to our nation by creating too many labels (color, nationality, male, female, etc). 

    The pandemic brought out lots of ugly behavior, its horrible.

    @bob806 said:

    Can't figure it out.

    We used to be a nation about caring for each other. While some of that still exists (thankfully) I think the media does a disservice to our nation by creating too many labels (color, nationality, male, female, etc). 

    The pandemic brought out lots of ugly behavior, its horrible.

    Curious, what are your labels in that context? Color, gender, nationality, etc?

  • @mld-woody said:

    No Bob, no. Don't you know that if everyone voted for Trump there would be no bad things in the world right now? Literally every bad thing that is happening now is only happening because Biden took over a lot over a year ago. Those bad things literally didn't get into motion until that point. If Trump was here nothing bad would be happening. Fact. 

    Of course if anything bad did happen, or even if it didn't, you guys who pretend to be open-minded would be burning down cities across the US.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Of course if anything bad did happen, or even if it didn't, you guys who pretend to be open-minded would be burning down cities across the US.

    WSS

    Oh we're in the "you guys" fantasy portion of the responses. Lovely

  • @westside-steve said:

    People often talk of a republican majority and I think that's off base. Many of the Republicans hated Trump because he upset the apple cart. It's not so much Republican or Democrat it's the power structure it's the ruling class and they did not like an outsider coming in and making them look like fools. They wanted Jeb Bush or some other milquetoast. So you had Democrat who will hate any Republican and you had never trumper's who didn't want the upstart to succeed.

    WSS

    And much of this goes both ways

    @mld-woody said:

    And much of this goes both ways

    Not even close. It might be nice if there were never-Bidners in the Democrat Party. 

    Manchin is about it.

    WSS

  • @bob806 said:

    Truth. Some policies may irk us more than others, but the USA is still great.

    To you maybe. But younger generations are taught that it is not great, it never was. We are evil.

    Liberals like Neo are taught that our very founding was illegitimate, that we are a racist nation, that because of us poor countries exist.  

    @gorka said:

    To you maybe. But younger generations are taught that it is not great, it never was. We are evil.

    Liberals like Neo are taught that our very founding was illegitimate, that we are a racist nation, that because of us poor countries exist.  

    I think there's just a better understanding we aren't the perfect shining light of all things good that older generations seem to think. We're lacking in health care, education, etc etc etc. We aren't the best country and head and shoulders above everyone else. That's an apple pie, 4th of July, star spangled fantasy that was fed to people. 

    This is the positive side of increased access to information. You have the JAFBFs of the world gobbling up misinformation, and then you have the actual global sharing of knowledge and experiences. People are more connected globally now than ever. 

    And before anyone gets their depends in a bind, you can point out the flaws of your country and still love it. If anything, if you're legitimately identifying flaws and trying to fix them than you're trying to make this place better. That's easily preferable to putting your head in the sand and shouting "we're number one!" while everything crumbles around you. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of course if anything bad did happen, or even if it didn't, you guys who pretend to be open-minded would be burning down cities across the US.

    WSS

    Oh we're in the "you guys" fantasy portion of the responses. Lovely

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh we're in the "you guys" fantasy portion of the responses. Lovely

    Until you criticized both parties equally (or even a tiny bit)  you are "you guys." 

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Oh we're in the "you guys" fantasy portion of the responses. Lovely

    Until you criticized both parties equally (or even a tiny bit)  you are "you guys." 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Until you criticized both parties equally you are "you guys." 

    WSS

    When 99% of this board is criticizing and trying to "own the libs" that hardly seems necessary. 

    I call out idiocy, and right now, that's being shown exclusively by right wingers on this board. 

    Biden is an old ass man that is a shit choice for president, and still a better choice than Trump. We STILL haven't done anything about student loans even though that was a campaign promise. You guys act like Biden is some far left antifa SJW but he's barely done anything that liberal. We could barely get money passed for fucking infrastructure.

    The Dems suck, but Reps are worse. Dems fall over themselves and don't improve anything, Reps actively make things worse. Dems can't work together, Reps unite around the petty bullshit of "owning the libs" and a manufactured culture war 

    Our two party system is trash and widening income inequality is making it worse. 

  • more woodpecker stupid crap assertions. Just bigoted "look at me, I'm special" nonsense.

    Pretty much....woodypeckerhead is the last guy on this Saturday Night Live clip - he's the

    toilet plunger guy (looks like a long narrow beak)

  • woodpecker is just like those tiktok nutjobs. "WE ARE SO SO SPECIAL  AND LOOK AT US WE ARE YOUNG!!!!!" when they are actually....

    fools.

  • woodpecker is just like those tiktok nutjobs. "WE ARE SO SO SPECIAL  AND LOOK AT US WE ARE YOUNG!!!!!" when they are actually....

    fools.

    @calfoxwc said:

    woodpecker is just like those tiktok nutjobs. "WE ARE SO SO SPECIAL  AND LOOK AT US WE ARE YOUNG!!!!!" when they are actually....

    fools.

    This post, ladies and gentlemen, is from the older, more mature poster that calls others out for their "feelings". 

    Let that sink in