Mayfield conspiracy

Dutch Oven

Some of us had serious questions quite a while ago when the Browns, even after the Browns went to the playoffs in 2020, didn't make a contract extension offer to Baker.

I'm starting to think that if Mayfield didn't have that second half hot stretch in '20 the QB search would have started last offseason.

Dste Ace

@kvoethe said:

Just announced he wants traded. Does anyone blame him?? He busted his azz for us and the FO hangs him out to dry by pursuing for a rapist.

Good luck to ya Baker!! Go win someplace else!!

Per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero:

"Jimmy Haslam offered to fly to Mayfield's hometown of Austin, TX to try to mend fences, but Mayfield declined the offer."

You can't make this shit up. Hope you all enjoyed that playoff victory over the Steeler's last year because I have a sick feeling we won't be sniffing the playoffs for a long time.

SdBacker80

It’s okay folks…We can replace a QB like Baker.

Dutch Oven

@sdbacker80 said:

It’s okay folks…We can replace a QB like Baker.

For a stopgap, I'd take Garoppolo or Winston.

Hell, Winston went 5-2 for the Saints last year, with 14 touchdowns against 3 interceptions.

Canton Dawg

@dutch-oven said:

For a stopgap, I'd take Garoppolo or Winston.

Hell, Winston went 5-2 for the Saints last year, with 14 touchdowns against 3 interceptions.

I believe Jimmy G just underwent shoulder surgery, and won’t be able to throw until July.

Dutch Oven

@canton-dawg said:

I believe Jimmy G just underwent shoulder surgery, and won’t be able to throw until July.

Oh that's right....

I'd take Matt Ryan if Watson goes to Atlanta.

Vambo

@westside-steve said:

So now all of a sudden we find out the front office wanted to shed Mayfield all season long. After all he wasn't Andrew Berry's pic anyway. Many people complain that Baker should have sat when he got hurt and let the mighty Case Keenum lead us to the promised land. Many thought that it was Baker's decision to make as to who started which is not the case. Players don't decide who starts at their position. Let's say it's true Mayfield was actually physically unable to play but stefanski started him anyway. Let's say for the sake of argument we might have won another game or two with Keenum. Why would Stefanski the medical team and the front office start Baker every game knowing they had less of a chance to be victorious? Here's the conspiracy. They did so to make him look bad so the fans wouldn't freak out when they dumped him. If he'd gotten surgery halfway through the season and then got dumped it would really seem like he never got a chance.

WSS

Jimmy is following the Build Back Better model!

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

Oh that's right....

I'd take Matt Ryan if Watson goes to Atlanta.

I'd prefer we started with the adult of Matt Ryan ?

topic--- do ya know why James Hudson never got help with TJ Watt? ?

laiccm

Mayfield demanding a trade but can't even pass a physical......ugh

nickers

to think I have have followed this franchise since 1970... And this is the thanks the great fans of Cleveland get,,,,..

Dutch Oven

@gumby73 said:

I'd prefer we started with the adult of Matt Ryan ?

topic--- do ya know why James Hudson never got help with TJ Watt? ?

Stefanski hated Bakers guts? ?

Kvoethe

@dutch-oven said:

For a stopgap, I'd take Garoppolo or Winston.

Hell, Winston went 5-2 for the Saints last year, with 14 touchdowns against 3 interceptions.

Baker may not have been the best..but Haslem did em dirty.

Canton Dawg

@laiccm said:

Mayfield demanding a trade but can't even pass a physical......ugh

Actually he doesn’t have to pass a physical, I just read on Cleveland.com that his 2022 contract is guaranteed.

Which means, he can sit his ass and collect his $18 million.

Hell he has more leverage than I thought.

SdBacker80

@canton-dawg said:

Actually he doesn’t have to pass a physical, I just read on Cleveland.com that his 2022 contract is guaranteed.

Which means, he can sit his ass and collect his $18 million.

Hell he has more leverage than I thought.

Let him pout

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

Stefanski hated Bakers guts? ?

he does call the plays.. and will continue

here's your prize

Canton Dawg

@sdbacker80 said:

Let him pout

Pay him his $18 million and let him walk without getting anything in return?

That would be pretty stupid.

beare

Whether you like baker or not the haslems did him dirty!!!! This team will never suceed long as haslem is the owner!

Riffer X

If you screw over your starting QB and then go begging for him to come back, you might be a redneck.

laiccm

@riffer-x said:

If you screw over your starting QB and then go begging for him to come back, you might be a redneck.

Business is business.....it's never personal...lol "Late great Nino Brown"

Dutch Oven

I'm kind of confused by something regarding this situation.

1. Baker was informed, through his agents, that he was the starting QB for the Browns in 2023, unless a top-level QB became available. If this happened, the Browns would attempt to get said QB.

2. A top-level QB became available, when Watson's criminal case was dropped.

3. The Browns then attempted to get said top-level QB, like they told Baker they would.

4. Baker, knowing this situation was a possibility, then writes a good-bye letter to Browns fans, before anything that would make him an ex-Browns player actually came to pass.

5. Watson decided against coming to Cleveland to become the Browns starting QB, thus maintaining Baker Mayfield in his position as the Browns starting QB.

6. Baker, though told that #1 was a possibility, demands a trade, even though he's the Browns starting QB.

I think Watson is a shit human being, and am appalled the Browns could be so tone deaf to try and give up the farm for such a polarizing potential "face of the franchise". That said, unless something in my time line is factually wrong, I don't quite understand how "the Browns did Baker so dirty". Seems to me, if the time line I laid out is correct, they were upfront with Baker, and that Baker the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns is trying to force his way off the team.