Schefter: Watson to Browns
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Brain dead? Yeah- if some Browns fans don't want to think the ONLY reason Watson changed his mind was because of the $$$, you're right- they're brain dead.
Aw gee, guess the Browns are bad guys for resetting the compensation level of quarterbacks in the NFL arms race? 38 year old Aaron Rodgers has $150 million guaranteed over three years. Five years ago, Joe Q Fan thought it was nuts when the Vikings gave Kirk Cousins (when by today's standards) a piddly $80 million fully guaranteed. Some eyebrows got raised when the Chiefs made news giving Mahomes 10 years and $450 million. So by those yardsticks, Five years $230 million isn't quite as outrageous as it sounds.
Yeah, the guy's low on the moral meter, but as was previously posted- there's tons of current and former NFL players who were worse. Should Watson lives up to his past performance level, and stay out of any further trouble.. He's going to be worth the price paid.. for your perusal VAg...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm
PS- you remove Watson's baggage, and I count 14 NFL teams who would be thrilled to have him, and there were at least several other teams besides the Browns who wanted him with his baggage.
The problem is all that money is fully guaranteed. You are also 100% correct on if the baggage is gone. However if the baggage were gone he may be a steeler. It's where he wanted to be based on several reports. I'm glad he's not at that cost.
The problem is all that money is fully guaranteed. You are also 100% correct on if the baggage is gone. However if the baggage were gone he may be a steeler. It's where he wanted to be based on several reports. I'm glad he's not at that cost.
I don't care about the costs (not my money and he only gets 1 million next year)..I'm glad we didn't have to give up any players.
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There is a real possibility watson doesn’t play a down this season. He has a load of civil suits still pending. It drives that first up even higher. Luckily you all have case Keenum who should have played more last year. Watson is a stud but that trade is wiiiiiiillllld and it’s wildness is being ignored. 230m fully guaranteed, three firsts and additional undisclosed draft picks.
Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Yup...shoot add the Patriots and Colts owner. Some of these people voted for Trump or Clinton and supported some Supreme Court Justices who were accused-the people we are supposed to look up to. There is something to be said that a Grand Jury did not indict....it's a super low bar
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Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Yup...shoot add the Patriots and Colts owner. Some of these people voted for Trump or Clinton and supported some Supreme Court Justices who were accused-the people we are supposed to look up to. There is something to be said that a Grand Jury did not indict....it's a super low bar
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Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Don't forget that's flamebaiting, and I still have my Mod powers. I declare neutrality (for the time being).
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Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Don't forget that's flamebaiting, and I still have my Mod powers. I declare neutrality (for the time being).
Don't forget that's flamebaiting, and I still have my Mod powers. I declare neutrality (for the time being).
I'm shaking in my boots! Go ahead and ban me then tough guy.
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Still hard to believe we have a superstar QB. Go Browns!!!
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Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Yup...shoot add the Patriots and Colts owner. Some of these people voted for Trump or Clinton and supported some Supreme Court Justices who were accused-the people we are supposed to look up to. There is something to be said that a Grand Jury did not indict....it's a super low bar
Yup...shoot add the Patriots and Colts owner. Some of these people voted for Trump or Clinton and supported some Supreme Court Justices who were accused-the people we are supposed to look up to. There is something to be said that a Grand Jury did not indict....it's a super low bar
Now that's bordering on a political no-no here... But you're right- Kraft soliciting prostitution (even on a tape that he got destroyed as inadmissible), and then Irsay consuming strictly illegal substances... No penalties if you're in the Owner's Club. But then our own Jimmy Haslam didn't know about that scam when he was running Pilot\ Flying J either.
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I'm shaking in my boots! Go ahead and ban me then tough guy.
This aged well.. NOT!
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I'm shaking in my boots! Go ahead and ban me then tough guy.
Did I say anything about banning? That was by my definition pure flamebaiting to get a rise out of nickers. Ghoolie would have been proud of you.
But I could delete this thread just to let you know I can delete stuff WAY faster than you can post it.
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Yup...shoot add the Patriots and Colts owner. Some of these people voted for Trump or Clinton and supported some Supreme Court Justices who were accused-the people we are supposed to look up to. There is something to be said that a Grand Jury did not indict....it's a super low bar
Now that's bordering on a political no-no here... But you're right- Kraft soliciting prostitution (even on a tape that he got destroyed as inadmissible), and then Irsay consuming strictly illegal substances... No penalties if you're in the Owner's Club. But then our own Jimmy Haslam didn't know about that scam when he was running Pilot\ Flying J either.
Now that's bordering on a political no-no here... But you're right- Kraft soliciting prostitution (even on a tape that he got destroyed as inadmissible), and then Irsay consuming strictly illegal substances... No penalties if you're in the Owner's Club. But then our own Jimmy Haslam didn't know about that scam when he was running Pilot\ Flying J either.
Now that's bordering on a political no-no here... But you're right- Kraft soliciting prostitution (even on a tape that he got destroyed as inadmissible), and then Irsay consuming strictly illegal substances... No penalties if you're in the Owner's Club. But then our own Jimmy Haslam didn't know about that scam when he was running Pilot\ Flying J either.
Exactly.....I know...thats why I put both sides of the political spectrum. My line is if this Watson thing is the line but aaaall the other things weren't?
And I saw a friend who is talking mess who supported Albert Belle after he ran over kids purposely
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Still hard to believe we have a superstar QB. Go Browns!!!
Still hard to believe we have a superstar QB. Go Browns!!!
Right? They sure as hell don't grow on trees, and we've been turning over every rock since 19 was slinging it side arm, with no luck whatsoever. We've had our share of pretenders and imposters that raised our hopes, but we have not had the guy.... until now.
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i think i just need to chill untill after the smoke clears
where I'm at ^^
as a fan. I can't remember 2 worse flustered days as a browns fan than the last 2 days.. ?
Than This !
a whole lot of smoke will get clearing sooner or later...
Question? for anyone- is it true Watson's attorney worked Haslam case?
a whole lot of smoke will get clearing sooner or later...
Question? for anyone- is it true Watson's attorney worked Haslam case?
Hmmm...this does sound legit^^^
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Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Doesn’t bother me in the least Princess…just keep doing you.
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Just to piss off nickers and cantondawg.
Doesn’t bother me in the least Princess…just keep doing you.
Doesn’t bother me in the least Princess…just keep doing you.
super bowl
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Brain dead? Yeah- if some Browns fans don't want to think the ONLY reason Watson changed his mind was because of the $$$, you're right- they're brain dead.
Aw gee, guess the Browns are bad guys for resetting the compensation level of quarterbacks in the NFL arms race? 38 year old Aaron Rodgers has $150 million guaranteed over three years. Five years ago, Joe Q Fan thought it was nuts when the Vikings gave Kirk Cousins (when by today's standards) a piddly $80 million fully guaranteed. Some eyebrows got raised when the Chiefs made news giving Mahomes 10 years and $450 million. So by those yardsticks, Five years $230 million isn't quite as outrageous as it sounds.
Yeah, the guy's low on the moral meter, but as was previously posted- there's tons of current and former NFL players who were worse. Should Watson lives up to his past performance level, and stay out of any further trouble.. He's going to be worth the price paid.. for your perusal VAg...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm
PS- you remove Watson's baggage, and I count 14 NFL teams who would be thrilled to have him, and there were at least several other teams besides the Browns who wanted him with his baggage.
The problem is all that money is fully guaranteed. You are also 100% correct on if the baggage is gone. However if the baggage were gone he may be a steeler. It's where he wanted to be based on several reports. I'm glad he's not at that cost.
The problem is all that money is fully guaranteed. You are also 100% correct on if the baggage is gone. However if the baggage were gone he may be a steeler. It's where he wanted to be based on several reports. I'm glad he's not at that cost.
You could be right. It is a lot of cash and could become crushing. However, we are basing that on cap dollars as we know. Next year TV dollars will increase as the new contracts will kick in to place. Gambling money is going to start heading in to the NFL treasure chest. There are still "maybe's" and "if's" attached to all of this, but it is a pretty good bet the cap is going to go up in a big way over the next season or two, so what seems like crazy today may not be so crazy in a year or two. It is a good bet the Browns are just a year ahead of the curve.
But...as I said, maybe not
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
There is a real possibility watson doesn’t play a down this season. He has a load of civil suits still pending. It drives that first up even higher. Luckily you all have case Keenum who should have played more last year. Watson is a stud but that trade is wiiiiiiillllld and it’s wildness is being ignored. 230m fully guaranteed, three firsts and additional undisclosed draft picks.
Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Watson was accused of putting his dick in someone’s hand who was unwilling to hold it.
Roethlisberger was accused of putting his dick in someone’s vagina without their consent.
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Mike Vick
Joe Mixon
Crazy fuck from the Panthers Mod Edit: Greg Hardy
Kareem Hunt
Tyreek Hill
Josh Gordon
A few hundred other people.
we’re either going to keep watching the sport in spite of what all these idiots keep doing or not. If not, so be it. I understand. Im going to keep watching for now.
Hey Trump even became President ...... after grabbing felines.
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Still hard to believe we have a superstar QB. Go Browns!!!
Still hard to believe we have a superstar QB. Go Browns!!!
All day!
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I have a serious question for those that are outraged after DW's signing, but for some reason weren't before even though Hunt plays on the team and has a significant role:
Is it strictly the numbers that matter to you? Meaning it's OK if it's just one woman but you draw the line at 23?
Is it the offense that bothers you? Sex stuff is where you draw the line, and sometimes "loud, nasty bitches acting the fool" just gotta be boot stomped and punched, cause after all, they deserve it?
Is it DW is a QB and Hunt is just a RB?
^ All serious questions, and all I'm am asking is you to do is actually think about it and look inside yourself for just 90 seconds before furiously typing your reply. Anyone here is free to search my posts on when we signed Hunt and you will see that I thought (and still do) that he was (is) a piece of shit of a man that I saw with my own 2 eyes do exactly what he was accused of doing.
EDIT: I'm guessing this post will more than likely roll right on by with no quotes or replies because defending any one of those 3 questions would - and quite frankly should, make anyone look at themselves just a little differently the next time they brush their teeth.
I'm not defending DW (with the lone exception being his right that he is innocent until proven guilty) and I wish our franchise QB was someone like Peyton Manning in terms of character...... but I guess in typical Browns fashion, it's simply a careful what you wish for thing.
EDIT2: .... and don't even get me started on the team we all root for being owned by a white collar crook that stole from the tables of hard working people.
^ This is why you all should watch Supercross. There is literally none of this shit there and all of the dudes are easy to root for.
I have a serious question for those that are outraged after DW's signing, but for some reason weren't before even though Hunt plays on the team and has a significant role:
Is it strictly the numbers that matter to you? Meaning it's OK if it's just one woman but you draw the line at 23?
Is it the offense that bothers you? Sex stuff is where you draw the line, and sometimes "loud, nasty bitches acting the fool" just gotta be boot stomped and punched, cause after all, they deserve it?
Is it DW is a QB and Hunt is just a RB?
^ All serious questions, and all I'm am asking is you to do is actually think about it and look inside yourself for just 90 seconds before furiously typing your reply. Anyone here is free to search my posts on when we signed Hunt and you will see that I thought (and still do) that he was (is) a piece of shit of a man that I saw with my own 2 eyes do exactly what he was accused of doing.
EDIT: I'm guessing this post will more than likely roll right on by with no quotes or replies because defending any one of those 3 questions would - and quite frankly should, make anyone look at themselves just a little differently the next time they brush their teeth.
I'm not defending DW (with the lone exception being his right that he is innocent until proven guilty) and I wish our franchise QB was someone like Peyton Manning in terms of character...... but I guess in typical Browns fashion, it's simply a careful what you wish for thing.
EDIT2: .... and don't even get me started on the team we all root for being owned by a white collar crook that stole from the tables of hard working people.
^ This is why you all should watch Supercross. There is literally none of this shit there and all of the dudes are easy to root for.
Very good post! I was a huge fan of Watson coming out of Clemson. I still admire his football talent. We can't control what's gone on in the massage therapy rooms, etc. I was just joking around with the name I used for him in the subject heading. That was poor judgment on my part.
All that said, If this FO/Owner just gave up 3 1st round picks for a guy that gets suspended for a long time - you'll probably even see some guys that are pumped to add Watson posting a WTF or 2. 1 plan I saw was to stick with Baker for the last year of his contract and draft a QB at #13 overall (Picket, Corral, Strong, Willis) leaving it up to Baker to silence his critics in the FO. If he blows it - someone else throws it moving forward.
If there isn't a a very long suspension, he'll be leading us to victory while his contract will remind us his new and permanent massage therapist is a 300 lb guy named Bruno.
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