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  • DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    I imagine Baker would be happy to go back down south.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      @hoorta said:

      Well, neither the Saints or the Colts have anyone on the roster resembling an NFL starting qb, so they may be interested in Baker on his one year $18 million prove it deal.  Seattle has Drew Lock and Geno Smith, so their interest may be low.  

      Any other team that has an interest in Baker knows the Browns can't negotiate out of position of strength.  They can't keep Mayfield, and they can't take the cap hit by releasing him either.  

      which is why i mentioned brock osweiller 

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      @atom said:

      which is why i mentioned brock osweiller 

      I doubt the Browns would give up a pick just to clear Baker's salary off the books...  Mayfield still has some value as a starting QB... What other teams value that to be is still TBD.  🙂  

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        @atom said:

        which is why i mentioned brock osweiller 

        I doubt the Browns would give up a pick just to clear Baker's salary off the books...  Mayfield still has some value as a starting QB... What other teams value that to be is still TBD.  🙂  

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        @hoorta said:

        I doubt the Browns would give up a pick just to clear Baker's salary off the books...  Mayfield still has some value as a starting QB... What other teams value that to be is still TBD.  🙂  

        i hope you are right 

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          He is familiar with going down south, just ask the girl at the Cheesecake Factory 

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            Don't really care, he threatened to sit out the season with the Browns if he wasn't traded. Looks like the media reports were right that he needs to be humiliated.

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              Don't really care, he threatened to sit out the season with the Browns if he wasn't traded. Looks like the media reports were right that he needs to be humiliated.

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              Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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              @mddawg said:

              Don't really care, he threatened to sit out the season with the Browns if he wasn't traded. Looks like the media reports were right that he needs to be humiliated.

              Playing for Jimmy Haslam isn’t humiliating enough.

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                @mddawg said:

                Don't really care, he threatened to sit out the season with the Browns if he wasn't traded. Looks like the media reports were right that he needs to be humiliated.

                Playing for Jimmy Haslam isn’t humiliating enough.

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                BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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                @canton-dawg said:

                Playing for Jimmy Haslam isn’t humiliating enough.

                Playing like a bottom 10 QB when you were the #1 overall draft pick is humiliating. 

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                  @canton-dawg said:

                  Playing for Jimmy Haslam isn’t humiliating enough.

                  Playing like a bottom 10 QB when you were the #1 overall draft pick is humiliating. 

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                  Playing like a bottom 10 QB when you were the #1 overall draft pick is humiliating. 

                  Slobbering on the knob of the most sacked QB in his last 2 years is extremely humiliating.

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                    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                    Playing like a bottom 10 QB when you were the #1 overall draft pick is humiliating. 

                    Slobbering on the knob of the most sacked QB in his last 2 years is extremely humiliating.

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                    BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by BernieSuperBowl2
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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    Slobbering on the knob of the most sacked QB in his last 2 years is extremely humiliating.

                    Projecting your homosexual fantasies again? You have Grindr for that. This is a football forum. 

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                      BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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                      Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts for a 3rd rounder. The Saints signed Winston. 

                      That leaves possible Baker trade destinations as maybe: Seattle, Detroit, Giants, Carolina, Atlanta? 

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                        Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts for a 3rd rounder. The Saints signed Winston. 

                        That leaves possible Baker trade destinations as maybe: Seattle, Detroit, Giants, Carolina, Atlanta? 

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                        Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                        @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                        Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts for a 3rd rounder. The Saints signed Winston. 

                        That leaves possible Baker trade destinations as maybe: Seattle, Detroit, Giants, Carolina, Atlanta? 

                        Winston may never be the same. I'd say the Saints are still an option. 

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                          Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts for a 3rd rounder. The Saints signed Winston. 

                          That leaves possible Baker trade destinations as maybe: Seattle, Detroit, Giants, Carolina, Atlanta? 

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                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                          @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                          Matt Ryan was traded to the Colts for a 3rd rounder. The Saints signed Winston. 

                          That leaves possible Baker trade destinations as maybe: Seattle, Detroit, Giants, Carolina, Atlanta? 

                          Atlanta signing Mariotta. Probably just Carolina and Seattle at this point. I'd rather have Goff than Baker at this point, so don't see why Detroit makes that deal. 

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                            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                            Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

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                              Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

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                              @ibleedbrown said:

                              Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

                              The Patriots have their guy. The Colts grabbed Matt Ryan. Looks like the Saints are keeping crab leg boy if he's healthy.

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                                It's almost like no one is really that interested in Baker Mayfield. 

                                And with Indianapolis off the market, and their penchant for making stupid trades and giving away high picks to do it, that was the Browns chance to get something of value for him. There's speculation the Browns might have to just release him.

                                Doesn't the rest of the NFL know that the only thing holding him back was the Browns drafting a WR for him? 

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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

                                  The Patriots have their guy. The Colts grabbed Matt Ryan. Looks like the Saints are keeping crab leg boy if he's healthy.

                                  WSS

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                                  IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  The Patriots have their guy. The Colts grabbed Matt Ryan. Looks like the Saints are keeping crab leg boy if he's healthy.

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                                  When l typed that l was thinking he could maybe be a back up in New England, but unless he agreed to renegotiate that’s too much money to pay a back up. So yeah, probably not happening there.

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                                    It's almost like no one is really that interested in Baker Mayfield. 

                                    And with Indianapolis off the market, and their penchant for making stupid trades and giving away high picks to do it, that was the Browns chance to get something of value for him. There's speculation the Browns might have to just release him.

                                    Doesn't the rest of the NFL know that the only thing holding him back was the Browns drafting a WR for him? 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    It's almost like no one is really that interested in Baker Mayfield. 

                                    And with Indianapolis off the market, and their penchant for making stupid trades and giving away high picks to do it, that was the Browns chance to get something of value for him. There's speculation the Browns might have to just release him.

                                    Doesn't the rest of the NFL know that the only thing holding him back was the Browns drafting a WR for him? 

                                    this part i am not sure about is baker due any kind of roster bonus ? and if not could we just keep him on the team and gamble that another teams qb gets hurt in training  camp or the pre season ? 

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                                      I've needed some clarity all week ?

                                      How does a trade for Mayfield work for the Browns’ salary cap?

                                      As it stands right now, a trade would be almost perfect for Cleveland. There would be no dead money, and they would not owe Mayfield another penny on his contract. The problem is that shifting over $18 million in salary could affect the price teams are willing to pay. However, if they

                                      1.) can find a team looking for a QB, the equation shifts back to the Browns. As a salary dump, $18 million is a lot. However, that is an incredible value for a starting QB, even if just for one year.

                                      2.) The Browns could potentially sweeten the deal. They could pay Mayfield a lump sum as a signing bonus prior to the trade. That would reduce the cap number being taken on by the team trading for Mayfield, potentially increasing the price they are willing to pay. However, the acquiring team could plan to sign Mayfield to an immediate extension or restructure the deal to add void years, essentially doing the same thing.

                                      3.) Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books

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                                      ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gumby73 said:

                                      I've needed some clarity all week ?

                                      How does a trade for Mayfield work for the Browns’ salary cap?

                                      As it stands right now, a trade would be almost perfect for Cleveland. There would be no dead money, and they would not owe Mayfield another penny on his contract. The problem is that shifting over $18 million in salary could affect the price teams are willing to pay. However, if they

                                      1.) can find a team looking for a QB, the equation shifts back to the Browns. As a salary dump, $18 million is a lot. However, that is an incredible value for a starting QB, even if just for one year.

                                      2.) The Browns could potentially sweeten the deal. They could pay Mayfield a lump sum as a signing bonus prior to the trade. That would reduce the cap number being taken on by the team trading for Mayfield, potentially increasing the price they are willing to pay. However, the acquiring team could plan to sign Mayfield to an immediate extension or restructure the deal to add void years, essentially doing the same thing.

                                      3.) Brock Osweiller route and kick in a draft pick just to get his money off the books

                                      well since other teams are getting different q.b's it is looking like #2 or #3  or just flat out cut him

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                                        Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        Once upon a time Belichick was pretty fond of Baker. Not sure l see the Pats offering a first, but if Baker’s price drops to maybe a 2nd or 3rd, it wouldn’t shock me if they sprang for him.

                                        Reports at the time were that it was Josh McDaniels, not BB, who was the fan of Baker. 

                                        BB's only praise we can find of Baker is him saying that he's "got a good arm". Coach speak for "that's all I've got." 

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                                          BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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                                          We see the way Baker acts publicly, imagine how he is behind closed doors? This lack of interest in Baker is very telling. His lack of talent, combined with his lack of mental and emotional maturity means almost no one wants to touch him. Who wants to coach a guy who is a jerk and won't listen to you? I'm starting to think a third round pick is a lofty goal for Baker....I hope I'm wrong, it'd be nice to get a good haul for him.

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