Schefter: Watson to Browns
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Brady and Belichick were cheating for decades. Day and night. Brady cheated. F Him and his rag arm. Moss made him look explosive. Blew an undefeated season against a pussy Giants D with solid 4 rushers and no back 7. Should have 5 SB losses in the weakest division and conference ever. Matty Ice choking and Marshawn no hand off gave him two rings. Tell me I'm wrong! Otto rules. Stay clean, Watson.
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Brady and Belichick were cheating for decades. Day and night. Brady cheated. F Him and his rag arm. Moss made him look explosive. Blew an undefeated season against a pussy Giants D with solid 4 rushers and no back 7. Should have 5 SB losses in the weakest division and conference ever. Matty Ice choking and Marshawn no hand off gave him two rings. Tell me I'm wrong! Otto rules. Stay clean, Watson.
Brady and Belichick were cheating for decades. No way Watson passed through some obstacles without due diligence. Brady cheated. F Him and his rag arm. Moss made him lookll explosive. Blew an undefeated season against a pussy Giants D with solid 4 rushers and no back 7.
Billy B. spent his whole football coaching life trying to figure out how to chisel some way to get an edge in football, legal or not.
Brady kind of the unlikable quarterback unless you were a UM, NE or just recently a TB fan. What will it take for he and Gronk to go away for good ?
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Brady and Belichick were cheating for decades. No way Watson passed through some obstacles without due diligence. Brady cheated. F Him and his rag arm. Moss made him lookll explosive. Blew an undefeated season against a pussy Giants D with solid 4 rushers and no back 7.
Billy B. spent his whole football coaching life trying to figure out how to chisel some way to get an edge in football, legal or not.
Brady kind of the unlikable quarterback unless you were a UM, NE or just recently a TB fan. What will it take for he and Gronk to go away for good ?
Billy B. spent his whole football coaching life trying to figure out how to chisel some way to get an edge in football, legal or not.
Brady kind of the unlikable quarterback unless you were a UM, NE or just recently a TB fan. What will it take for he and Gronk to go away for good ?
Yuo.....For example I have ZERO doubts the Pats organization did know Aaron Hernandez was a complete murdering monster. They just didn't gaf....
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Brady and Belichick were cheating for decades. No way Watson passed through some obstacles without due diligence. Brady cheated. F Him and his rag arm. Moss made him lookll explosive. Blew an undefeated season against a pussy Giants D with solid 4 rushers and no back 7.
Billy B. spent his whole football coaching life trying to figure out how to chisel some way to get an edge in football, legal or not.
Brady kind of the unlikable quarterback unless you were a UM, NE or just recently a TB fan. What will it take for he and Gronk to go away for good ?
Billy B. spent his whole football coaching life trying to figure out how to chisel some way to get an edge in football, legal or not.
Brady kind of the unlikable quarterback unless you were a UM, NE or just recently a TB fan. What will it take for he and Gronk to go away for good ?
John Belushi was the shit. Neighbors kinda sucked.
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Jim Brown or Barry Sanders?
Jim Brown or Barry Sanders?
What is the question?
Better running back?
Better woman beater?
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if this was posted elsewhere? sorry... clears up some of the smoke ... https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/21/mmqb-how-browns-got-back-in-deshaun-watson-chase
Berry's, Watson process may have started back in Oct./ November..
• According to a Browns source, by then, they had done a lot of the work in , and really ramped up their background research in January as their season ended. They had their security people and their lawyers on it, and also deployed private investigators to dig into the cases against Watson, and also his past, going back to his time in high school and college.
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Yep....exactly right. The media, with the help of Browns have made Mayfield look like a draft bust. I didn't care for his attitude, but I've seen worse. These people point out the OBJ fiasco...how Baker couldn't get the ball to him. That's a load of crap. The guy wanted out before he ever got here. He couldn't run a correct route to save his life. He was a free lancer that did not fit this offense. Why don't they have a video of all the balls that were in his hands, that he dropped? Baker brought excitement back...expectations of winning in any game. I can't believe how easily they turn on a qb who was the best we've had since '99. I'm with you...I'm out. I know this whole Deshaun Watson thing is going to blow up in Haslam's face. Berry will be the scapegoat...the Browns and Cleveland will be the joke of the NFL...as usual. The only good that can come from this, is if Haslam is somehow decides to sell the team after all the humiliation. I can't even begin to imagine a worse owner.
Let's pause.....in 4 years Baker attacked medical staff, local journalists, national talking heads, former coach, other player's about their contracts.....please name the QB in 4 years who did all that? Why you think no one wants to pay the 18 mill while elite QBs out here getting 40? His mouth doesn't out weigh his talent...everything needs to be perfect around him to thrive-how often does that happen?.. Carolina reps stated they weren't interested in Mayfield....dude responds with we're not interested in them either. That's not Halslam, FO or fans fault....it's Baker
Let's pause.....in 4 years Baker attacked medical staff, local journalists, national talking heads, former coach, other player's about their contracts.....please name the QB in 4 years who did all that? Why you think no one wants to pay the 18 mill while elite QBs out here getting 40? His mouth doesn't out weigh his talent...everything needs to be perfect around him to thrive-how often does that happen?.. Carolina reps stated they weren't interested in Mayfield....dude responds with we're not interested in them either. That's not Halslam, FO or fans fault....it's Baker
Mayfield has always had an attitude to the point of being obnoxious and embarrassing. If you decided to move on, why not bench him last season, when he's injured? That would have been a perfect opportunity to start the process. They're stuck for the $19 million, anyway. They could have played Keenum...maybe signed a free agent backup...Instead they decide to make fools of themselves...again, ....and pay DW $230 million, completely guaranteed, no less, knowing that he has all these accusations, and most likely will not play for at least 8 games in 2002. Is this their plan to gain respect and a winning tradition back? Do you younger guys even realize what a great franchise this once was? When I was growing up, in the 50;s and 60's, the Browns were among the winningest teams. I've dealt with all the different owners and coaches over the past 60 years...I've dealt with all the bad players and poor decisions, but I've never seen an owner like Haslam, who seems to have one goal. That's to drag the once proud name of the Cleveland Browns through the mud over and over. Can he really be this dumb? He's the owner of a major corporation...a billionaire, no less. How is he incapable of building a winning team with respectability? This is a guy who has let a homeless man decide who to pick in the draft. The other owners must be having a field day laughing at this guy. I'll just say this about Mayfield....I've defended him many times, when I thought he was being treated unfairly. But...he has alienated pretty much everybody who once rooted for him. Him may have ruined his young career with his stupid actions and comments. When a team would rather have Carson Wentz over Mayfield, that pretty much tells the story. So...don't get the idea that there is no limit to my loyalty for Baker. I'm just completely disgusted with how this organization continues to screw up everything they touch. The drama never ends.
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Let's pause.....in 4 years Baker attacked medical staff, local journalists, national talking heads, former coach, other player's about their contracts.....please name the QB in 4 years who did all that? Why you think no one wants to pay the 18 mill while elite QBs out here getting 40? His mouth doesn't out weigh his talent...everything needs to be perfect around him to thrive-how often does that happen?.. Carolina reps stated they weren't interested in Mayfield....dude responds with we're not interested in them either. That's not Halslam, FO or fans fault....it's Baker
Mayfield has always had an attitude to the point of being obnoxious and embarrassing. If you decided to move on, why not bench him last season, when he's injured? That would have been a perfect opportunity to start the process. They're stuck for the $19 million, anyway. They could have played Keenum...maybe signed a free agent backup...Instead they decide to make fools of themselves...again, ....and pay DW $230 million, completely guaranteed, no less, knowing that he has all these accusations, and most likely will not play for at least 8 games in 2002. Is this their plan to gain respect and a winning tradition back? Do you younger guys even realize what a great franchise this once was? When I was growing up, in the 50;s and 60's, the Browns were among the winningest teams. I've dealt with all the different owners and coaches over the past 60 years...I've dealt with all the bad players and poor decisions, but I've never seen an owner like Haslam, who seems to have one goal. That's to drag the once proud name of the Cleveland Browns through the mud over and over. Can he really be this dumb? He's the owner of a major corporation...a billionaire, no less. How is he incapable of building a winning team with respectability? This is a guy who has let a homeless man decide who to pick in the draft. The other owners must be having a field day laughing at this guy. I'll just say this about Mayfield....I've defended him many times, when I thought he was being treated unfairly. But...he has alienated pretty much everybody who once rooted for him. Him may have ruined his young career with his stupid actions and comments. When a team would rather have Carson Wentz over Mayfield, that pretty much tells the story. So...don't get the idea that there is no limit to my loyalty for Baker. I'm just completely disgusted with how this organization continues to screw up everything they touch. The drama never ends.
Mayfield has always had an attitude to the point of being obnoxious and embarrassing. If you decided to move on, why not bench him last season, when he's injured? That would have been a perfect opportunity to start the process. They're stuck for the $19 million, anyway. They could have played Keenum...maybe signed a free agent backup...Instead they decide to make fools of themselves...again, ....and pay DW $230 million, completely guaranteed, no less, knowing that he has all these accusations, and most likely will not play for at least 8 games in 2002. Is this their plan to gain respect and a winning tradition back? Do you younger guys even realize what a great franchise this once was? When I was growing up, in the 50;s and 60's, the Browns were among the winningest teams. I've dealt with all the different owners and coaches over the past 60 years...I've dealt with all the bad players and poor decisions, but I've never seen an owner like Haslam, who seems to have one goal. That's to drag the once proud name of the Cleveland Browns through the mud over and over. Can he really be this dumb? He's the owner of a major corporation...a billionaire, no less. How is he incapable of building a winning team with respectability? This is a guy who has let a homeless man decide who to pick in the draft. The other owners must be having a field day laughing at this guy. I'll just say this about Mayfield....I've defended him many times, when I thought he was being treated unfairly. But...he has alienated pretty much everybody who once rooted for him. Him may have ruined his young career with his stupid actions and comments. When a team would rather have Carson Wentz over Mayfield, that pretty much tells the story. So...don't get the idea that there is no limit to my loyalty for Baker. I'm just completely disgusted with how this organization continues to screw up everything they touch. The drama never ends.
More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason.
Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost.
I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get.
As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension.
As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have?
Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee....
Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "
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Mayfield has always had an attitude to the point of being obnoxious and embarrassing. If you decided to move on, why not bench him last season, when he's injured? That would have been a perfect opportunity to start the process. They're stuck for the $19 million, anyway. They could have played Keenum...maybe signed a free agent backup...Instead they decide to make fools of themselves...again, ....and pay DW $230 million, completely guaranteed, no less, knowing that he has all these accusations, and most likely will not play for at least 8 games in 2002. Is this their plan to gain respect and a winning tradition back? Do you younger guys even realize what a great franchise this once was? When I was growing up, in the 50;s and 60's, the Browns were among the winningest teams. I've dealt with all the different owners and coaches over the past 60 years...I've dealt with all the bad players and poor decisions, but I've never seen an owner like Haslam, who seems to have one goal. That's to drag the once proud name of the Cleveland Browns through the mud over and over. Can he really be this dumb? He's the owner of a major corporation...a billionaire, no less. How is he incapable of building a winning team with respectability? This is a guy who has let a homeless man decide who to pick in the draft. The other owners must be having a field day laughing at this guy. I'll just say this about Mayfield....I've defended him many times, when I thought he was being treated unfairly. But...he has alienated pretty much everybody who once rooted for him. Him may have ruined his young career with his stupid actions and comments. When a team would rather have Carson Wentz over Mayfield, that pretty much tells the story. So...don't get the idea that there is no limit to my loyalty for Baker. I'm just completely disgusted with how this organization continues to screw up everything they touch. The drama never ends.
More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason.
Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost.
I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get.
As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension.
As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have?
Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee....
Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "
More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason.
Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost.
I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get.
As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension.
As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have?
Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee....
Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "
Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
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Well, once again, the idiots in the front office has screwed the Browns and Browns fans. The Watson acquisition is ludicrous. Sold out the BROWNS for the next 4+ years. $230 mil. for Watson, who may not even start this season due to NFL's possible sanctions....what??? hASSlam and "dingle"Berry have to be certifiably insane! Now, the F.O. jettison's Tretter and Landry with no compensation what-so-ever. Pro bowlers who were vital to the Browns and we get nothing for them? And, why release Tretter...he was just given a new contract and was essential to the O-line. This exceeds pure stupidity. Landry was a victim of salary cap restrictions...but to just release him???,,, not even try to trade him... Gotta think hASSlams wife must be a good masseuse(OK, my bad)
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More than just obnoxious and embarrassing..its immature to a point where it's childish and his talent doesn't outweigh it. You see any teammates coming to his defense? There's a reason.
Bench him? You forget how Baker ran to the press and stated only he makes the decision for him to sit? In combination of the medical staff clearing him then wtf are you supposed to do other than play him? He's the no.1 pick who just helped win a road playoff game against Pittsburgh. Baker bet on himself, put the contract before his team well being...and lost.
I disagree. Them getting Watson might be their best move yet. Money means very little to me because in 2 seasons the next contract for a elite QB is 60 mill a year...Watch what Burrow and Herbert get.
As in Watson's criminal case...dead. civil suits...we will see. I think Brisset can hold the fort down for a bit until the suspension.
As in go all in with Baker this year...you wanna go to war against Lamar, Wilson, Mahomes, Burrows, Herbert, Josh Allen ...with Baker? How many seasons Chubb, Garrett, Wars, Hunt...etc have?
Not a fan of Haslam..never really been. But Baker is the author of all his ills. Imagine if he would've just STFU and got surgery last year? He would've gotten a contract I gauarantee....
Heck, After Watson turned the Browns down he could've swallowed a little pride and got a contract in that window.....naw...he gonna go " trade me to the Colts "
Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
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Look we all know everybody who has been under center for the Browns has had his share of haters. And I believe 99% of the time the hating starts first and then the haters look for reasons, real or imagined, to back it up. So after an entire offseason of the front office telling everybody that would listen that he's the starter for 22 and then getting the knife in the back he got pissed off? Who, besides a complete puss, wouldn't? That is some pretty weak shit.
If your wife is banging the paperboy would your first reaction be to bow your head and make sure to bring home more money and keep the house and yard nicer for when he visits?
WSS
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
Or people were right and then the person under center proved it more? You can be pissed all you want, but adults have adult reactions. Going to social media and demanding a trade screwed him over and you blame him. Billion dollar business.....emphasis on business. Business is never personal...it's business.
For 18 million the paperboy can film it.....idgaf....especially if I wasn't hitting it right anyway but acting like I was....
Well I guess your response doesn't surprise me. Of course the bitch from the dumbass Texans that you're getting hard over hasn't been that easy to get along with has he?
WSS
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Jim Brown or Barry Sanders?
What is the question?
Better running back?
Better woman beater?
What is the question?
Better running back?
Better woman beater?
Better pure nunning back, Barry. Better woman beater, Jimmy Brown all day. Smack a ho. Balconies are only two stories.
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Wow the Press Conference.
good tough questions. Some very leading of course…talking about the 22 cases and not the criminal charges that are being dropped the past couple weeks. Scripted as though the allegations are still pending some criminal resolution…but they aren’t.
I thought Andrew Berry was very good…changed his tone and was soft spoken on the “hard” questions.
not a lot to take away from Deshaun speaking other than his Legal team coaching him up really well.
I thought Good damage control overall.
The nuggets I got…I think they expect an NFL suspension.
They had doubts about Baker during the year (probably much sooner than that) we have a good portion of folks on here that understand the limitations he had.
maybe they weren’t turning over stones in regard to Rodgers and Wilson…they like that Watson is in his prime.
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I hope so...
Well, if Harris County won't do your bidding, pick another county. Darn, I wish the Gipper was still with us to weigh in. If the said offense didn't happen in your county, how can you convene a grand jury there?
Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges
Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony
Rusty Hardin, one of Watson’s attorneys, told FOX 8 Cleveland that a complaint had been filed by one of the women who are involved in the 22 civil lawsuits levied at the former Houston Texans quarterback.
A Harris County grand jury dismissed nine of 10 criminal complaints against Watson earlier this month, setting the path for the Texans to trade Watson to the Browns last week.
Hardin said the complaint wasn't new and that officials wanted to wait until the Harris County grand jury finished its deliberations before the next case was presented.
Nicole Hensley 📰@nkhensleyI was just handed this statement from a Brazoria County prosecutor. Grand jury has declined to indict Deshaun Watson. houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-t…
Deshaun Watson: Second grand jury declines to indict Cleveland Browns quarterback on criminal charges
Brazoria County prosecutor: Grand jury declined to indict Watson following review of evidence, witness testimony
There's Yinzer fans who still swear Mark Malone was an awesome QB. Vag is prolly one of them.
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I like to 'name" players I don't think are very good.
I was especially proud of "Chump" Thompson.
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