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  • S SdBacker80

    Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

    Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

     

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

    Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

     

    Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

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      Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

      Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

       

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      @sdbacker80 said:

      Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

      Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

       

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        I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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        @canton-dawg said:

        I’m thinking Super Bowl.

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          @sdbacker80 said:

          Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. 

          Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. 

           

          Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

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          @canton-dawg said:

          Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

          Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

          Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

          We shall see

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            Brissett is very average... LOL...

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              Brissett is very average... LOL...

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              Brissett is very average... LOL...

              Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

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                @canton-dawg said:

                Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

                Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                We shall see

                WSS

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                @westside-steve said:

                Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                We shall see

                WSS

                No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                  Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                  We shall see

                  WSS

                  No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                  Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

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                  @laiccm said:

                  No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                  Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

                  Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                  You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                  Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

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                    @laiccm said:

                    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

                    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

                    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

                    WSS

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

                    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

                    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

                    WSS

                    No parroting needed-just pay attention.  Attacking medical staff, former coaches, local journalists, tv talking heads..etc...heck...the moron could've had a job after Watson turned the Browns down but he demanded a trade because of his feelings getting hurt. No one wants your guy for even half the price of an elite QB------ so it matters. His career is in danger.......you can go root for his mediocre ass at the USFL next year tho.....lol!!

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                      @nickers said:

                      Brissett is very average... LOL...

                      Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

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                      @laiccm said:

                      Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

                      Yes... Baker is a much better QB

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                        @laiccm said:

                        Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

                        Yes... Baker is a much better QB

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                        @nickers said:

                        Yes... Baker is a much better QB

                        ok. I think Baker is better as well...but I don't think by that much. 13-20 mill a year more? Brisset is a little under 5 mill

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                          If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                          And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

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                            If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                            And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                            WSS

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                            And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                            WSS

                            Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                            Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                            bottomline

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                              And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                              WSS

                              Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                              Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                              bottomline

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                              @laiccm said:

                              Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                              Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                              bottomline

                              Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

                              Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

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                                If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                                And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                                WSS

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                                And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                                WSS

                                Kenny Stabler and Jim McMahon?.. I mean hell Stabler drank his ass off and smoked dope lol

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                                  @laiccm said:

                                  Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                                  Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                                  bottomline

                                  Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

                                  Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

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                                  Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

                                  Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

                                  Very good analysis

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

                                    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

                                    WSS

                                    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                                    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                                    bottomline

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                                    @laiccm said:

                                    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

                                    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

                                    bottomline

                                    This is very true, unfortunately. Just like Ben. 

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                                      @canton-dawg said:

                                      Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

                                      Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                                      Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                                      We shall see

                                      WSS

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

                                      Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

                                      We shall see

                                      WSS

                                      The biggest reason Baker hasn’t made it to another team, is simply the other QB needy teams have the Browns over a barrel.

                                      They’re stuck with a guaranteed contract and everyone knows it.

                                      They are waiting for the Browns to sweeten the deal with a buyout or draft pick or both.

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                                        Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

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                                          Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

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                                          @skippinturtles said:

                                          Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

                                          Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29

                                          Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30

                                          Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26

                                          I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.

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