Baker v. Brisset
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If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
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If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
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If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter -or- even a backup. I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away.
Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season ? Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS ?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
Kenny Stabler and Jim McMahon?.. I mean hell Stabler drank his ass off and smoked dope lol
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Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter -or- even a backup. I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away.
Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season ? Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS ?
Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter -or- even a backup. I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away.
Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season ? Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS ?
Very good analysis
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If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.
And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.
WSS
Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.
Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.
bottomline
This is very true, unfortunately. Just like Ben.
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Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.
Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.
Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.
We shall see
WSS
Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.
Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.
We shall see
WSS
The biggest reason Baker hasn’t made it to another team, is simply the other QB needy teams have the Browns over a barrel.
They’re stuck with a guaranteed contract and everyone knows it.
They are waiting for the Browns to sweeten the deal with a buyout or draft pick or both.
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Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
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Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29
Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30
Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26
I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
Total bullshit!
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Manziel 3rd string would be a party. Trailer Park Boys life. Randers.
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Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average.
Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29
Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30
Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26
I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.
Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29
Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30
Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26
I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.
Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.
Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are, or something like that ?
What do you think ? Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt -but- neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for.
Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it. Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now
GO BROWNS, just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0 I've lost count.
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Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29
Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30
Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26
I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.
Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.
Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are, or something like that ?
What do you think ? Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt -but- neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for.
Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it. Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now
GO BROWNS, just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0 I've lost count.
Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.
Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are, or something like that ?
What do you think ? Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt -but- neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for.
Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it. Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now
GO BROWNS, just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0 I've lost count.
For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
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Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.
Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are, or something like that ?
What do you think ? Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt -but- neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for.
Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it. Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now
GO BROWNS, just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0 I've lost count.
For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
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For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
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By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
That's your opinion if they gave up too much. The entire league thinks Baker is a after thought.....lol. You can be as critical as you want....that's your right as a fan. As long as Watson don't lead the league in interceptions its cool. Other than that...meaningless. If they go to the playoffs every year for example....the FO go nowhere....PERIOD!
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For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
Of course some of the naysayers are going to pile on every mistake and bad game Watson has.. and they're coming, certainly.
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
If Baker really is Da Bomb Nickers... They WHY aren't QB needy teams ringing Berry's phone of the hook with first round offers? The reason actually is- teams view Baker as a mid level starter, at best. That the Saints went out and got Andy Dalton instead of Mayfield should tell you something. New Orleans opinion is Andy "I need everything perfect around me too" Dalton is a better option than Baker.
As far as "Watson's contract is crazy"... Twas 2018 when everyone thought Cousins $80 million guaranteed was stupid crazy too. Guaranteed money has almost tripled in five years. (on a per year basis, Rodgers is getting more.. Bye Devante, we cant afford you with what we're paying Aaron) I posted it elsewhere guy... Ivy League Berry isn't stupid... NFL revenue is going to go up- WAY up- over the next few years. As a subscriber, I've been following this closely.. Directv isn't going to be able to afford Sunday ticket when their contract is up with the NFL after 2022 season. Disney and Amazon already have offers on the table for DOUBLE what Direct* is paying. Then there's the network contracts too. I don't know when the NFL's Gravy Train is going to derail, but IMHO, it's not going to do it any time soon. A $300 million cap number in three years isn't out of the question.
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By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
Of course some of the naysayers are going to pile on every mistake and bad game Watson has.. and they're coming, certainly.
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
If Baker really is Da Bomb Nickers... They WHY aren't QB needy teams ringing Berry's phone of the hook with first round offers? The reason actually is- teams view Baker as a mid level starter, at best. That the Saints went out and got Andy Dalton instead of Mayfield should tell you something. New Orleans opinion is Andy "I need everything perfect around me too" Dalton is a better option than Baker.
As far as "Watson's contract is crazy"... Twas 2018 when everyone thought Cousins $80 million guaranteed was stupid crazy too. Guaranteed money has almost tripled in five years. (on a per year basis, Rodgers is getting more.. Bye Devante, we cant afford you with what we're paying Aaron) I posted it elsewhere guy... Ivy League Berry isn't stupid... NFL revenue is going to go up- WAY up- over the next few years. As a subscriber, I've been following this closely.. Directv isn't going to be able to afford Sunday ticket when their contract is up with the NFL after 2022 season. Disney and Amazon already have offers on the table for DOUBLE what Direct* is paying. Then there's the network contracts too. I don't know when the NFL's Gravy Train is going to derail, but IMHO, it's not going to do it any time soon. A $300 million cap number in three years isn't out of the question.
Of course some of the naysayers are going to pile on every mistake and bad game Watson has.. and they're coming, certainly.
If Baker really is Da Bomb Nickers... They WHY aren't QB needy teams ringing Berry's phone of the hook with first round offers? The reason actually is- teams view Baker as a mid level starter, at best. That the Saints went out and got Andy Dalton instead of Mayfield should tell you something. New Orleans opinion is Andy "I need everything perfect around me too" Dalton is a better option than Baker.
As far as "Watson's contract is crazy"... Twas 2018 when everyone thought Cousins $80 million guaranteed was stupid crazy too. Guaranteed money has almost tripled in five years. (on a per year basis, Rodgers is getting more.. Bye Devante, we cant afford you with what we're paying Aaron) I posted it elsewhere guy... Ivy League Berry isn't stupid... NFL revenue is going to go up- WAY up- over the next few years. As a subscriber, I've been following this closely.. Directv isn't going to be able to afford Sunday ticket when their contract is up with the NFL after 2022 season. Disney and Amazon already have offers on the table for DOUBLE what Direct* is paying. Then there's the network contracts too. I don't know when the NFL's Gravy Train is going to derail, but IMHO, it's not going to do it any time soon. A $300 million cap number in three years isn't out of the question.
PERIOD
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By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
Of course some of the naysayers are going to pile on every mistake and bad game Watson has.. and they're coming, certainly.
No the Browns gave up WAY too much for him.. He better light it up week in and week out.. NO EXCUSES!.. NONE!.. Because Berry and Haslam are basically telling us that they think He's the shit and Baker was just an after thought for them... I'm holding Watson to the highest critical standards all the village idiots held Mayfield too... I will scrutinize every little fuck up Watson makes... He deserves nothing less for what we gave up for him.. PERIOD!
If Baker really is Da Bomb Nickers... They WHY aren't QB needy teams ringing Berry's phone of the hook with first round offers? The reason actually is- teams view Baker as a mid level starter, at best. That the Saints went out and got Andy Dalton instead of Mayfield should tell you something. New Orleans opinion is Andy "I need everything perfect around me too" Dalton is a better option than Baker.
As far as "Watson's contract is crazy"... Twas 2018 when everyone thought Cousins $80 million guaranteed was stupid crazy too. Guaranteed money has almost tripled in five years. (on a per year basis, Rodgers is getting more.. Bye Devante, we cant afford you with what we're paying Aaron) I posted it elsewhere guy... Ivy League Berry isn't stupid... NFL revenue is going to go up- WAY up- over the next few years. As a subscriber, I've been following this closely.. Directv isn't going to be able to afford Sunday ticket when their contract is up with the NFL after 2022 season. Disney and Amazon already have offers on the table for DOUBLE what Direct* is paying. Then there's the network contracts too. I don't know when the NFL's Gravy Train is going to derail, but IMHO, it's not going to do it any time soon. A $300 million cap number in three years isn't out of the question.
Of course some of the naysayers are going to pile on every mistake and bad game Watson has.. and they're coming, certainly.
If Baker really is Da Bomb Nickers... They WHY aren't QB needy teams ringing Berry's phone of the hook with first round offers? The reason actually is- teams view Baker as a mid level starter, at best. That the Saints went out and got Andy Dalton instead of Mayfield should tell you something. New Orleans opinion is Andy "I need everything perfect around me too" Dalton is a better option than Baker.
As far as "Watson's contract is crazy"... Twas 2018 when everyone thought Cousins $80 million guaranteed was stupid crazy too. Guaranteed money has almost tripled in five years. (on a per year basis, Rodgers is getting more.. Bye Devante, we cant afford you with what we're paying Aaron) I posted it elsewhere guy... Ivy League Berry isn't stupid... NFL revenue is going to go up- WAY up- over the next few years. As a subscriber, I've been following this closely.. Directv isn't going to be able to afford Sunday ticket when their contract is up with the NFL after 2022 season. Disney and Amazon already have offers on the table for DOUBLE what Direct* is paying. Then there's the network contracts too. I don't know when the NFL's Gravy Train is going to derail, but IMHO, it's not going to do it any time soon. A $300 million cap number in three years isn't out of the question.
I never claimed Baker was Da Bomb!... I still think he's a very good QB when healthy... He has 28 td's in a short season his rookie year which was sensational... After the Freddie debacle he guided the Browns to 11-5 and a playoff victory... People can underscore that all they like. But that's nothing to sneeze at... He was good enough to win...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.
Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
By the time 3 years have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....
What’s comedy is the fucking boatload of guaranteed money for this guy.
If he’s pulling in the highest salary, the results need to match…that’s the way shit goes in the real world.
He might be better than Rogers and Mahomes in your mind, but not the mind of the rational football fan.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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