Watson survey
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Well Watson has already proved himself to be a team cancer when he wants control the coaching staff. Wait until Stefanski pisses him off and he demands he be fired.
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Yeah because he's not Black enough..
Yeah because he's not Black enough..
Post a link for all of us of an article saying that Watson wanted all his white coaches fired in Houston and replaced with black coaches.
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Post a link for all of us of an article saying that Watson wanted all his white coaches fired in Houston and replaced with black coaches.
One day later, still waiting...
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Post a link for all of us of an article saying that Watson wanted all his white coaches fired in Houston and replaced with black coaches.
One day later, still waiting...
One day later, still waiting...
Almost seems like it never happened..?
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Can’t vote as I don’t know enough about what happened. It’s what I was saying to people before he was dealt here… we have unsubstantiated reports as evidence. No one knows. No need to jump off the ship until there’s evidence enough to do so. Does it seem icky? You bet. Does it also come across as suspect? Yeah, honestly. Kinda.
What I suspect has happened (and it could be a shade worse or more innocent):
Watson goes to a masseuse. After she is done, she says “Oh, you’re Deshaun Watson the NFL quarterback? We’ll sir, would you do me the pleasure of allowing me to blow you?” And Watson being a dude says “my pleasure m’lady. Allow me to present to you… my throbbing manhood.” And then afterward he thinks to himself… “well uh… I don’t know if I should go back to that one. It’s kinda weird now that she sucked my cock and everything.”
So Watson finds a new masseuse. And that masseuse in turn says “Hey Mr Watson! Check out how wet my pussy is for you!” “Well hop on, lass!”
And then again afterward he thinks “geez I don’t know if I should go back to this one.”
And so on and so forth with some not expressing desire to fuck him and others quite the opposite. But enough that do so much that Watson makes some bad reads. He oversteps and he makes some women uncomfortable. And that’s no good. And maybe he meant no disrespect. And maybe upon the “no”, he left it at that and didn’t harass anyone. But perhaps his boner should not have been presented in the first place without being damn sure it was welcome.
For those instances, a lady or two comes forward and says “this cat is a creep.” And a few more come forward who actually consented, but can smell the dollarbucks and claim the same. And perhaps one or two who experienced nothing at all sexual get a whiff of potential cash as well, so they pile on.
The money grubbers may have inflated the numbers and made things look worse than they are. But there are probably some with legit concerns who Watson didn’t intend to offend, but definitely positively abso-fucking-lutely should have fucking known fucking better than to assume that they wanted to fuck him, with whom he acted recklessly and without proper regard.
Presenting a boner? Icky. Unwanted verbal advances? Ditto. Can I learn to live with those with some remorse and a lesson learned? Probably. Because I’ve been cheering for a team without a quarterback my entire adult life. And that’s just the level of hypocrite I’m willing to reduce myself to.
Cramming that unwanted boner down the throat of an unwilling person? I’m drawing a line and will turn in my fan card until Watson is no longer around. Can’t abide by it.
But do I know what level this rises to? Nope! So I’m basing my excitement level on Browns management hopefully being smart enough to understand where they could draw that line. And with what they know, hopefully it’s a sign that it’s not as bad as we fear.
Can’t vote as I don’t know enough about what happened. It’s what I was saying to people before he was dealt here… we have unsubstantiated reports as evidence. No one knows. No need to jump off the ship until there’s evidence enough to do so. Does it seem icky? You bet. Does it also come across as suspect? Yeah, honestly. Kinda.
Yeah you can. No one knows enough about what happened.
The objective of the thread is to take a guess.
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All these people wanting Watson lynched are probably the same people who wanted the central park 5 executed. Look what happened there. Lets wait until he is convicted first or a court decides he did what was alleged before he is condemned. USA is like the UK Guilty until proven innocent. Everyone hating on the Browns because Watson chose us ....I hope the hate of those people also stretches out to New Orleans, Atlanta and Carolina ..... or are they exempt now because he chose to come to a better team ?
All these people wanting Watson lynched are probably the same people who wanted the central park 5 executed. Look what happened there. Lets wait until he is convicted first or a court decides he did what was alleged before he is condemned. USA is like the UK Guilty until proven innocent. Everyone hating on the Browns because Watson chose us ....I hope the hate of those people also stretches out to New Orleans, Atlanta and Carolina ..... or are they exempt now because he chose to come to a better team ?
The "same people"? I doubt it. That was 33 years ago.
Yeah "poor Browns". Your "woe is me" attitude has put you out of touch with reality ...Jealousy has little to do with it.
Everyone is hating on the Browns not because Watson chose us, but because the Browns chose Watson.
It was pretty much established that whoever chose the sexual deviant was gonna be met with intense scrutiny.
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They are disgusted. Like many other fans, I have said the same kind of thing. I just can't go on caring about a team
that has done this garbage. Grand jury - doesn't take sides - it goes by evidence - and hearsay on both sides isn't it.
Does not mean that he is innocent. - and his track record is a disgrace.
22 -- may very well be true. The red line has been crossed. I'm proud of Jim Thome and his Wife. If you never stand for something, you stand for nothing. It's time for people who care to stand up.
If it were any other team, I'd be just as disgusted. I just can't make excuses for the browns' stupidity and lack of integrity.
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Jim Thome’s Wife Says Family is Canceling Browns Season Tickets After Deshaun Watson Trade
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Andrea Thome, the wife of former Cleveland baseball player Jim Thome, announced on Twitter that her family canceled their season tickets for Browns games Friday after the team introduced quarterback Deshaun Watson.
“Officially cancelled our Browns season tickets today and asked for a refund as they were paid in full,” she said in the tweet. “Very sad after 40 years as a fan, but this is my line in the sand. I believe women. Especially when there are 22 of them. That press conference did nothing to change my mind.” '
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Everybody has an opinion. And honestly none of us know what happened for sure. Do you believe:
A all of these women are lying or exaggerating looking for a quick buck. No conviction equals no problem.
B some of them are lying (enough to disqualify the whole case) and jumped on the bandwagon. No conviction but still troublesome.
C he probably went over the line but it wasn't forcible rape so boys will be boys.
D he did it and should face the consequences.
F something else
WSS
Everybody has an opinion. And honestly none of us know what happened for sure. Do you believe:
A all of these women are lying or exaggerating looking for a quick buck. No conviction equals no problem.
B some of them are lying (enough to disqualify the whole case) and jumped on the bandwagon. No conviction but still troublesome. Itsit
C he probably went over the line but it wasn't forcible rape so boys will be boys.
D he did it and should face the consequences.
F something else
WSS
That was March 26 it's now April 9 and this thing appears to be gaining steam right up to the 2022 NFL Draft, great timing.
I think it's still a combination of B C D F but as time goes on even that might shake out some.
It looks like a great show for NETFLIX or maybe some MA movie. Stay tuned, he's only the Cleveland BROWNS starting quarterback......maybe.
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I just saw that too. So Cal where does it stop.....or does it ?
I really don't know. Maybe it just won't end. I have friends who have said what I've decided and felt, before they knew how I felt about it. I was in the grocery store the other day, and a guy was wearing his browns jacket - I asked him what he thought about that trade - he said he only wore his jacket because it was cold - he was going to sell it at a garage sale. I said we could donate our brown garb to a Ukrainian relief fund, and his Wife said that was a great idea. Seems that the number of folks disgusted is greater than a few here and there. No more stupid mock drafts anymore from me.
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I just saw that too. So Cal where does it stop.....or does it ?
I really don't know. Maybe it just won't end. I have friends who have said what I've decided and felt, before they knew how I felt about it. I was in the grocery store the other day, and a guy was wearing his browns jacket - I asked him what he thought about that trade - he said he only wore his jacket because it was cold - he was going to sell it at a garage sale. I said we could donate our brown garb to a Ukrainian relief fund, and his Wife said that was a great idea. Seems that the number of folks disgusted is greater than a few here and there. No more stupid mock drafts anymore from me.
No more stupid mock drafts anymore from me.
So there is a silver lining to be found from all this.
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He may not see the field...maybe ever. All the guaranteed money...browns are toast. I cannot fathom the stupidity.
He may not see the field...maybe ever. All the guaranteed money...browns are toast. I cannot fathom the stupidity.
Just a gut feeling; it will be swept under the rug as best as can be. I don't think the other owners want to destroy one of their own especially for doing something that they'd at the very least considered doing themselves. And probably would if the situation would have been different.
Number two The Players Association would be loathe to turn their backs on one of their own. How many cases of "there but for the grace of God" might there be?
If I were a soccer fan I'd be interested to see how it plays out without having any personal involvement, but it's hard to remain indifferent as a Browns fan.
A lot of celebrities have lost their entire careers for a lot less.
And frankly I can't say with certainty if Justice was done in any of those cases one way or the other.
WSS
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More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson ...
More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson, survey shows Published: Mar. 16, 2022, 10:59 a.m. A majority of Browns fans said in a survey that they don't want the Browns to trade for ...Did the Browns underestimate the backlash to the Deshaun ...
Apr 2, 2022Certainly a negative reaction from the fan base had to be anticipated by the Browns when they made their big trade March 21 — three first-round picks, plus a $230 million contract for Watson ...More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson ...
More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson, survey shows Published: Mar. 16, 2022, 10:59 a.m. A majority of Browns fans said in a survey that they don't want the Browns to trade for ...Did the Browns underestimate the backlash to the Deshaun ...
Apr 2, 2022Certainly a negative reaction from the fan base had to be anticipated by the Browns when they made their big trade March 21 — three first-round picks, plus a $230 million contract for Watson ...The Browns under the Haslams are a TURD organization.
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More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson ...
More than half of Browns fans don't want Deshaun Watson, survey shows Published: Mar. 16, 2022, 10:59 a.m. A majority of Browns fans said in a survey that they don't want the Browns to trade for ...Did the Browns underestimate the backlash to the Deshaun ...
Apr 2, 2022Certainly a negative reaction from the fan base had to be anticipated by the Browns when they made their big trade March 21 — three first-round picks, plus a $230 million contract for Watson ...The Browns under the Haslams are a TURD organization.
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oh boy half of 500 really doesnt represent much of the fan base
And it was run on Fansided, not asking JQ Public what he thought... And from the article...
"Only seven percent said, “Yes, I would stop rooting for the Browns,” while 10 percent said, “Maybe I would consider stop rooting for the Browns.”
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