The Housing bubble
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"been known to lean towards the right"... Lol
But yeah there probably is a housing bubble. It's not sustainable and it's fucking a lot of people over. Luckily I bought a house when I did and it's up 25%+ now in a short time.
"been known to lean towards the right"... Lol
But yeah there probably is a housing bubble. It's not sustainable and it's fucking a lot of people over. Luckily I bought a house when I did and it's up 25%+ now in a short time.
Yeah there's that. Don't hold me to a prediction but I get the feeling it won't be long before a lot of suckers are left holding the bag when the house they overpaid for drops back to normal. With inflation who knows if that will happen.
WSS
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"been known to lean towards the right"... Lol
But yeah there probably is a housing bubble. It's not sustainable and it's fucking a lot of people over. Luckily I bought a house when I did and it's up 25%+ now in a short time.
Yeah there's that. Don't hold me to a prediction but I get the feeling it won't be long before a lot of suckers are left holding the bag when the house they overpaid for drops back to normal. With inflation who knows if that will happen.
WSS
Yeah there's that. Don't hold me to a prediction but I get the feeling it won't be long before a lot of suckers are left holding the bag when the house they overpaid for drops back to normal. With inflation who knows if that will happen.
WSS
And then the woody's of the world will be demanding loan forgiveness as they do for student loans.
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Yeah there's that. Don't hold me to a prediction but I get the feeling it won't be long before a lot of suckers are left holding the bag when the house they overpaid for drops back to normal. With inflation who knows if that will happen.
WSS
And then the woody's of the world will be demanding loan forgiveness as they do for student loans.
And then the woody's of the world will be demanding loan forgiveness as they do for student loans.
Could certainly be related to student loans or anything else you bought and then had buyer's remorse.
But mostly I was thinking along the lines of the last housing bubble when people keep refinancing and refinancing and getting deeper and deeper underwater.
WSS
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Sadly, I don't think this one is a bubble. The 2008 bubble had prices go up based on speculation, when combined with giving mortgages to a bunch of people who clearly couldn't afford them, the system collapsed. This time, the prices are rising because of inflation, but they're actually backed by real dollars instead of speculation. What this looks like on the ground is that massive financial institutions such as Blackrock are scooping up single-family real estate and renting it out. They aren't going to default on these mortgages. I just bought a house in this batshit market. I paid 25% over what this house was worth pre-pandemic. Some of the houses I looked at were on the market for 4 hours before being purchased sight-unseen.
You guys know I am a physician, and I can afford this expense, but the working class is absolutely screwed. The vast majority of millennials will be unable to build any equity via home ownership. I have half a mind to pull all my money out of the stock market and go all in on crypto, metals, commodities, and real estate just because I don't want to support this awful system that most pensions are running off of.
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Sadly, I don't think this one is a bubble. The 2008 bubble had prices go up based on speculation, when combined with giving mortgages to a bunch of people who clearly couldn't afford them, the system collapsed. This time, the prices are rising because of inflation, but they're actually backed by real dollars instead of speculation. What this looks like on the ground is that massive financial institutions such as Blackrock are scooping up single-family real estate and renting it out. They aren't going to default on these mortgages. I just bought a house in this batshit market. I paid 25% over what this house was worth pre-pandemic. Some of the houses I looked at were on the market for 4 hours before being purchased sight-unseen.
You guys know I am a physician, and I can afford this expense, but the working class is absolutely screwed. The vast majority of millennials will be unable to build any equity via home ownership. I have half a mind to pull all my money out of the stock market and go all in on crypto, metals, commodities, and real estate just because I don't want to support this awful system that most pensions are running off of.
Sadly, I don't think this one is a bubble. The 2008 bubble had prices go up based on speculation, when combined with giving mortgages to a bunch of people who clearly couldn't afford them, the system collapsed. This time, the prices are rising because of inflation, but they're actually backed by real dollars instead of speculation. What this looks like on the ground is that massive financial institutions such as Blackrock are scooping up single-family real estate and renting it out. They aren't going to default on these mortgages. I just bought a house in this batshit market. I paid 25% over what this house was worth pre-pandemic. Some of the houses I looked at were on the market for 4 hours before being purchased sight-unseen.
You guys know I am a physician, and I can afford this expense, but the working class is absolutely screwed. The vast majority of millennials will be unable to build any equity via home ownership. I have half a mind to pull all my money out of the stock market and go all in on crypto, metals, commodities, and real estate just because I don't want to support this awful system that most pensions are running off of.
It definitely sucks for any of my friends that didn't already own a house and were looking. They either have to wait and hope for the best, overpay, or get a worse house.
I've heard/read a lot about large companies just buying up properties to rent. Seems to be really fucking with supply and demand. Through in some lagging supply chain pandemic issues coupled with new economic issues and not as many houses are getting built, compounding the issue.
You really would invest that much in crypto tho? Seems risky
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Surprisingly gen Z is more prone to purchase. Millennials are more prone to rent. I wouldn't have guessed that but it makes sense. I have rental properties and I get offers for them every week. It's either individual investors or individual investors in a conglomerate buying up everything they can putting a few bucks into them and renting them at high prices.
I really get tired of screwing around as a landlord especially because I don't charge hardly anything. If I were smarter I'd have handyman fix them up and be ruthless about it. I'm guessing that's what the conglomerates do since they're buying dozens if not more properties. A couple of them that I've spoken with one was from Los Angeles one was from Atlanta so... the one from Los Angeles had an agreement with a handyman that's actually done a lot of work for me.
Hard to keep up with all the stories and predictions sometimes saying that the prices will continue to Skyrocket some say the bubble is about to burst.
"Why Millennials are Renting More — And Why It Works for Them | MYMOVE" https://www.mymove.com/buying-selling/guides/millennials-renting-works/
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Surprisingly gen Z is more prone to purchase. Millennials are more prone to rent. I wouldn't have guessed that but it makes sense. I have rental properties and I get offers for them every week. It's either individual investors or individual investors in a conglomerate buying up everything they can putting a few bucks into them and renting them at high prices.
I really get tired of screwing around as a landlord especially because I don't charge hardly anything. If I were smarter I'd have handyman fix them up and be ruthless about it. I'm guessing that's what the conglomerates do since they're buying dozens if not more properties. A couple of them that I've spoken with one was from Los Angeles one was from Atlanta so... the one from Los Angeles had an agreement with a handyman that's actually done a lot of work for me.
Hard to keep up with all the stories and predictions sometimes saying that the prices will continue to Skyrocket some say the bubble is about to burst.
"Why Millennials are Renting More — And Why It Works for Them | MYMOVE" https://www.mymove.com/buying-selling/guides/millennials-renting-works/
WSS
Surprisingly gen Z is more prone to purchase. Millennials are more prone to rent. I wouldn't have guessed that but it makes sense. I have rental properties and I get offers for them every week. It's either individual investors or individual investors in a conglomerate buying up everything they can putting a few bucks into them and renting them at high prices.
I really get tired of screwing around as a landlord especially because I don't charge hardly anything. If I were smarter I'd have handyman fix them up and be ruthless about it. I'm guessing that's what the conglomerates do since they're buying dozens if not more properties. A couple of them that I've spoken with one was from Los Angeles one was from Atlanta so... the one from Los Angeles had an agreement with a handyman that's actually done a lot of work for me.
Hard to keep up with all the stories and predictions sometimes saying that the prices will continue to Skyrocket some say the bubble is about to burst.
"Why Millennials are Renting More — And Why It Works for Them | MYMOVE" https://www.mymove.com/buying-selling/guides/millennials-renting-works/
WSS
Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Surprisingly gen Z is more prone to purchase. Millennials are more prone to rent. I wouldn't have guessed that but it makes sense. I have rental properties and I get offers for them every week. It's either individual investors or individual investors in a conglomerate buying up everything they can putting a few bucks into them and renting them at high prices.
I really get tired of screwing around as a landlord especially because I don't charge hardly anything. If I were smarter I'd have handyman fix them up and be ruthless about it. I'm guessing that's what the conglomerates do since they're buying dozens if not more properties. A couple of them that I've spoken with one was from Los Angeles one was from Atlanta so... the one from Los Angeles had an agreement with a handyman that's actually done a lot of work for me.
Hard to keep up with all the stories and predictions sometimes saying that the prices will continue to Skyrocket some say the bubble is about to burst.
"Why Millennials are Renting More — And Why It Works for Them | MYMOVE" https://www.mymove.com/buying-selling/guides/millennials-renting-works/
WSS
Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
No the question or my comment didn't really have much to do with which generation is doing what. I just would have guessed that Generation Z would be most likely to rent making the rental market more attractive to investors.
"More Gen Zers Are Buying Homes Than Ever Before" https://www.roostify.com/resources/more-gen-zers-are-buying-homes-than-ever-before
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
And if that's the correct article meaning if I didn't copy and paste the wrong one part of the projections are the amount of Generation Z planning or wanting to buy.
"How Generation Z Will Change the Housing Market (Forever) - Hommati" https://www.hommati.com/blog/how-generation-z-will-change-the-housing-market-forever
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"Generation Z vs. Millennials: Who Prefers To Rent a House Instead of Buying? | Qrius" https://qrius.com/generation-z-vs-millennials-who-prefers-to-rent-a-house-instead-of-buying/?bamp-skip-redirect=1
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Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
No the question or my comment didn't really have much to do with which generation is doing what. I just would have guessed that Generation Z would be most likely to rent making the rental market more attractive to investors.
"More Gen Zers Are Buying Homes Than Ever Before" https://www.roostify.com/resources/more-gen-zers-are-buying-homes-than-ever-before
No the question or my comment didn't really have much to do with which generation is doing what. I just would have guessed that Generation Z would be most likely to rent making the rental market more attractive to investors.
"More Gen Zers Are Buying Homes Than Ever Before" https://www.roostify.com/resources/more-gen-zers-are-buying-homes-than-ever-before
Did you read the article and look at the data though? All that is saying is that they grew the most year over year... because of course they did. They have the most growth to gain as their generation gets older and older. I'd expect them to be the fastest growing generation for homeownership because the bulk of that generation is just now getting to the age where they would consider buying homes. The vast majority of Zoomers are still renting or living at home, because they're the youngest generation, so of course they are.
The high percentage of Zoomers that want to own a home at a young age compared to Millennials that actually have speaks more to 1) the financial situation of Millennials and 2) Zoomers not quite understanding yet how expensive a home is going to be than it does any major cultural difference between the two generations, IMO.
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Surprisingly gen Z is more prone to purchase. Millennials are more prone to rent. I wouldn't have guessed that but it makes sense. I have rental properties and I get offers for them every week. It's either individual investors or individual investors in a conglomerate buying up everything they can putting a few bucks into them and renting them at high prices.
I really get tired of screwing around as a landlord especially because I don't charge hardly anything. If I were smarter I'd have handyman fix them up and be ruthless about it. I'm guessing that's what the conglomerates do since they're buying dozens if not more properties. A couple of them that I've spoken with one was from Los Angeles one was from Atlanta so... the one from Los Angeles had an agreement with a handyman that's actually done a lot of work for me.
Hard to keep up with all the stories and predictions sometimes saying that the prices will continue to Skyrocket some say the bubble is about to burst.
"Why Millennials are Renting More — And Why It Works for Them | MYMOVE" https://www.mymove.com/buying-selling/guides/millennials-renting-works/
WSS
Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
Are they 'like' 25, or actually 25?
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Are you sure you're accurately referring to Gen Z here? Because the oldest members of Gen Z are like 25.... I don't think a ton of Gen Z are buying houses yet.
And the question isn't whether millennials are renting more, it is why. Even in your article the first reason they listed was budget. Between growing up through multiple world changing / economic changing events, skyrocketing tuition costs, and an older generation staying in the workforce longer... the budget angle is probably the most damning.
Are they 'like' 25, or actually 25?
Are they 'like' 25, or actually 25?
Depends on who you ask, as generations generally don't have firm beginning and end points. Quickly search shows oldest as 25, another 24, one 26, etc. Hence 'like" or "about"
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Actually Woodrow I just looked up some articles out of curiosity about the housing and Rental situation I was surprised that Zoomers lean more towards homeownership than Millennials as it says in the conclusion of the q i r u s piece. Not to Fan any flames of Millennials vs Zoomers vs. Boomers versus anybody. Being the youngest the ridiculously high rental or purchase prices wouldn't seem so much of a shock to them not having grown up with something other.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Are they 'like' 25, or actually 25?
Depends on who you ask, as generations generally don't have firm beginning and end points. Quickly search shows oldest as 25, another 24, one 26, etc. Hence 'like" or "about"
Depends on who you ask, as generations generally don't have firm beginning and end points. Quickly search shows oldest as 25, another 24, one 26, etc. Hence 'like" or "about"
Like okay.
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Actually Woodrow I just looked up some articles out of curiosity about the housing and Rental situation I was surprised that Zoomers lean more towards homeownership than Millennials as it says in the conclusion of the q i r u s piece. Not to Fan any flames of Millennials vs Zoomers vs. Boomers versus anybody. Being the youngest the ridiculously high rental or purchase prices wouldn't seem so much of a shock to them not having grown up with something other.
WSS
Actually Woodrow I just looked up some articles out of curiosity about the housing and Rental situation I was surprised that Zoomers lean more towards homeownership than Millennials as it says in the conclusion of the q i r u s piece. Not to Fan any flames of Millennials vs Zoomers vs. Boomers versus anybody. Being the youngest the ridiculously high rental or purchase prices wouldn't seem so much of a shock to them not having grown up with something other.
WSS
I'm saying that conclusion isn't really based on anything. These pieces have compared what millennials are doing and what Zoomers would like to do. Again, the oldest are about 25, the majority aren't buying anything yet.
Comparing millennials not buying himes because of their economic situation with Zoomers saying they'd like to own homes is an apples and oranges comparison. One is reality and one is a want.
Your initial post in this back and forth said gen z is more prone to purchase but I haven't seen anything really backing that up yet. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll know more, but then everything would need normalized for economic situation.
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Actually Woodrow I just looked up some articles out of curiosity about the housing and Rental situation I was surprised that Zoomers lean more towards homeownership than Millennials as it says in the conclusion of the q i r u s piece. Not to Fan any flames of Millennials vs Zoomers vs. Boomers versus anybody. Being the youngest the ridiculously high rental or purchase prices wouldn't seem so much of a shock to them not having grown up with something other.
WSS
I'm saying that conclusion isn't really based on anything. These pieces have compared what millennials are doing and what Zoomers would like to do. Again, the oldest are about 25, the majority aren't buying anything yet.
Comparing millennials not buying himes because of their economic situation with Zoomers saying they'd like to own homes is an apples and oranges comparison. One is reality and one is a want.
Your initial post in this back and forth said gen z is more prone to purchase but I haven't seen anything really backing that up yet. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll know more, but then everything would need normalized for economic situation.
I'm saying that conclusion isn't really based on anything. These pieces have compared what millennials are doing and what Zoomers would like to do. Again, the oldest are about 25, the majority aren't buying anything yet.
Comparing millennials not buying himes because of their economic situation with Zoomers saying they'd like to own homes is an apples and oranges comparison. One is reality and one is a want.
Your initial post in this back and forth said gen z is more prone to purchase but I haven't seen anything really backing that up yet. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll know more, but then everything would need normalized for economic situation.
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So actually anything I post really has nothing to do with taking a shot at millennials. Only trying to get a handle on investors going all-in concerning the rental conglomerate angle. Maybe it's the trending thing to do and somebody has looked into it for the near future. And maybe, actually probably, a lot of people are jumping on a bandwagon.
As for my own properties I just wish the tenants would go for a drive and leave cigarettes burning in the bed.
WSS
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Sadly, I don't think this one is a bubble. The 2008 bubble had prices go up based on speculation, when combined with giving mortgages to a bunch of people who clearly couldn't afford them, the system collapsed. This time, the prices are rising because of inflation, but they're actually backed by real dollars instead of speculation. What this looks like on the ground is that massive financial institutions such as Blackrock are scooping up single-family real estate and renting it out. They aren't going to default on these mortgages. I just bought a house in this batshit market. I paid 25% over what this house was worth pre-pandemic. Some of the houses I looked at were on the market for 4 hours before being purchased sight-unseen.
You guys know I am a physician, and I can afford this expense, but the working class is absolutely screwed. The vast majority of millennials will be unable to build any equity via home ownership. I have half a mind to pull all my money out of the stock market and go all in on crypto, metals, commodities, and real estate just because I don't want to support this awful system that most pensions are running off of.
It definitely sucks for any of my friends that didn't already own a house and were looking. They either have to wait and hope for the best, overpay, or get a worse house.
I've heard/read a lot about large companies just buying up properties to rent. Seems to be really fucking with supply and demand. Through in some lagging supply chain pandemic issues coupled with new economic issues and not as many houses are getting built, compounding the issue.
You really would invest that much in crypto tho? Seems risky
You really would invest that much in crypto tho? Seems risky
Huge risk, and I'm not quite ready to jump into the deep end. I'm still bullish on crypto though. Would hope that diversifying with real estate, precious metals, and commodities would be enough diversification to feel better about it. I know I'll likely be missing out on gains that would be had in the stock market, but my goal is only to live modestly in retirement.
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