Browns fans are a confusing bunch.
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Exactly... You can look at it this way, (I do) The Browns really only gave the Texans two first round picks... "With their first round pick in the 2022 NFL draft... The Cleveland Browns select... Deshaun Watson quarterback, Houston Texans."
Plus unlike increasing in value- I've read plenty of stuff where future picks get devalued by a round.
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First of all if Deshawn Watson is a franchise quarterback why isn't he still in Texas.
Baker Mayfield has just as many playoff wins as Deshaun Watson.
I know, I know, Watsons touchdowns and passing yards blah blah blah.
Just because you bowl a 300 doesn't make you Don Carter, and just because you have a hole in one doesn't make you Jack Nicholas or Tiger woods.
Watson is something like 28 wins 26 losses. Wow that is impressive.
Another overrated quarterback that brings nothing to the table but mediocrity and baggage.
He's like Johnny Manziel with a hard on.
who the fuck is don carter ? and more importantly who cares ? well according to cal he doesnt like white coachs thats why he is not in houston and no watson is not overrated
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I feel pretty comfortable saying that every Browns QB I've rooted for since I was a wee lad has been in some degree worse than Deshaun Watson, and I turned 7 during the 1982 NFL strike. What I don't know is if Watson is the biggest scumbag of all those QBs, and that's saying quite a lot, considering Johnny Manziel bounced his fiancee's head off his car door glass while here.
Well I soured on Johnny for other reason than that but what makes this allegation at a more or less believable than the 22 against Watson?
Regardless I'm waiting for a full season or two before I place Watson above Tom Brady.
WSS
Well I soured on Johnny for other reason than that but what makes this allegation at a more or less believable than the 22 against Watson?
Regardless I'm waiting for a full season or two before I place Watson above Tom Brady.
WSS
When did Tom Brady play for the Browns?
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Hey feliz cumpleaños there gumby, have a good one. Nice that the NFL threw you a party today !
How many candles or is that classified ?

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So tell me why he's so great again? Has he won anything ?
ill just toss this little tid bit at you even without Hopkins at wr Watson led the nfl in passing yards second in passer rating and yards per game and 7th in touchdowns and that was for a crappy 4-12 team with a shit o-line that let him get sacked 49 times makes ya wonder how many wins watson would have had in cleveland last year and also what bakers #'s would have looked like in houston
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Well I soured on Johnny for other reason than that but what makes this allegation at a more or less believable than the 22 against Watson?
Regardless I'm waiting for a full season or two before I place Watson above Tom Brady.
WSS
When did Tom Brady play for the Browns?
When did Tom Brady play for the Browns?
Not sure my statement was all that obtuse. I said I'm going to wait for the fucker to play a year or two before I put him in the Hall of Fame hows that?
WSS
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When did Tom Brady play for the Browns?
Not sure my statement was all that obtuse. I said I'm going to wait for the fucker to play a year or two before I put him in the Hall of Fame hows that?
WSS
Not sure my statement was all that obtuse. I said I'm going to wait for the fucker to play a year or two before I put him in the Hall of Fame hows that?
WSS
I didn't think my original statement was something that warranted a "Well I'll wait and see before I say he's better than Tom Brady" response, you silly goose.
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Not sure my statement was all that obtuse. I said I'm going to wait for the fucker to play a year or two before I put him in the Hall of Fame hows that?
WSS
I didn't think my original statement was something that warranted a "Well I'll wait and see before I say he's better than Tom Brady" response, you silly goose.
you silly goose.
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Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
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you silly goose.
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Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
I don’t quite get the reasoning either.
We were more than just a QB a way from being a contender.
But dropping $230 million on a QB with a blank resume seems to be the Browns way of doing things.
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Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
I couldn't hear you over your Baker Mayfield jersey.... ?
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Man I wonder what the reaction is going to be when the 230 million dollar man fails to make the browns any more of a contender in the span of four years.
I won't be able to pinpoint this thread at that time, probably, but looking back over Watson's career...I think you had all better keep your expectations low.
I couldn't hear you over your Baker Mayfield jersey.... ?
I couldn't hear you over your Baker Mayfield jersey.... ?
I think your hatred is clouding your vision. Whether it's Watson or any other quarterback that they decided was going to be an upgrade and therefore the last missing puzzle piece, Carr, Garoppolo, Ryan, Rodgers or Wilson, it's not going to look good if the preseason fervor doesn't match the results.
Just that in the case of your buddy DW, the expense was unprecedented.
WSS
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@calfoxwc said:
"and can scramble for good yards like Lamar Jackson maybe"
weird - the forum froze up on me there....... couldn't edit.
just seems racist to me. All they had to do was draft the terrific qb from Liberty College if they
wanted a good qb that can really run for yards and make defenses pay.
Or any other qb that can also run who isn't a dirtbag.
so tired of the woke craze in sports and everything else.
All they had to do was draft the terrific qb from Liberty College if they
Terrific? TBD, cal... No one thinks he's ready now and competition level is a serious question in my mind.
We know what DW can do on a pro field.
Making Watson the highest paid QB was an all in approach by the FO.
I certainly hope they’re right, but if Berry is wrong he just set us back a few years and needs to be shitcanned.
Rinse wash and repeat much?
Or we can accept the error and let Berry learn in his job and maybe grow in it.
On balance I think Berry has done well. DW? Controversial, iffy, move, but we are never going anywhere without a franchise QB. And as another replied above, who else was out there that we could tab?
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All they had to do was draft the terrific qb from Liberty College if they
Terrific? TBD, cal... No one thinks he's ready now and competition level is a serious question in my mind.
We know what DW can do on a pro field.
Making Watson the highest paid QB was an all in approach by the FO.
I certainly hope they’re right, but if Berry is wrong he just set us back a few years and needs to be shitcanned.
Rinse wash and repeat much?
Or we can accept the error and let Berry learn in his job and maybe grow in it.
On balance I think Berry has done well. DW? Controversial, iffy, move, but we are never going anywhere without a franchise QB. And as another replied above, who else was out there that we could tab?
who else was out there that we could tab?
Well the Broncos found a way to send Lock to Seattle while getting a franchise QB in return. Were we willing to pay the price the Broncos paid?
"The Broncos received the Super Bowl-winning quarterback and a fourth-round pick in exchange for tight end Noah Fant, quarterback Drew Lock, defensive end Shelby Harris, 2022 and 2023 first-round picks, 2022 and 2023 second-round picks and a 2022 fifth-round pick."
https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/broncos-trade-for-nine-time-pro-bowl-qb-russell-wilson
At least theirs comes with a Superbowl win, a jumped GL pass away from a second one and no known baggage that might preclude all or part of a season.
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