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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @orion said:

    Dawson Deaton

    Dawson Deaton Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

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    Decent numbers... Link has discussion and some video...

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    @tour2ma said:

    Dawson Deaton Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

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    Decent numbers... Link has discussion and some video...

    So is this OLineman a freak of nature, or is our new 3rd round WR really unathletic, because David Bell's vertical jump is only 4 inches higher than Deaton's. (I have to be honest, vertical jump isn't really something I pay attention to, but Deaton's vertical jumped out at me because I thought I heard Bell's was only 31. It was 33")

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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      Watching Deaton vs OU right now.

      Good wingspan, a bit on the tall side for a center... 6'4 ish?  That's damn tall for a center.  Lower body needs to add more strength, but he moves well and his eyes tend to take him to places where he makes fast and good decisions.   Actually looks pretty serviceable for a 7th round pick.  I'm somewhat shocked because Cam Jergens was drafted high on athletic profile alone,  this Deaton kids doesn't look to be that far off.

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          @orion said:

          So I'm trying to figure out the rationale.  

          I'll ask again, Is he the RB that they brought in as one of the pre draft visits they're allowed?

          try to re-post again..

          RB Visits..

          • James Cook, Running Back, Georgia (PRI)  gone Bills 2.63
          • Rachaad White, Running Back, Arizona State (PRI) gone TB 3.91
          • Jerome Ford was a solid value at 5.156

          Almost every Camp, a team like the Ravens loses starters or dang near starting RB's...  The trade value of Hunt or Johnson (both on contract season) will sky rocket... Berry decided to put a RB in his back pocket knowing the status of each ... stay tuned..Ford's a good passing weapon with good field vision

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          @gumby73 said:

          RB Visits..

          • James Cook, Running Back, Georgia (PRI)  gone Bills 2.63
          • Rachaad White, Running Back, Arizona State (PRI) gone TB 3.91
          • Jerome Ford was a solid value at 5.156

          Thanks.  It was James Cook I was thinking of.

          Zombo said:

          Hunt and DJ are both probably gone after this year.

          But we drafted a RB this year.   We're certainly not keeping 4 RB's plus Felton.

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            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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            Zombo said:

            Why not?

            Because it's too many.  IMO

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              @dutch-oven said:

              Pricks.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                Zombo said:

                Why not?

                Z

                Because you're smarter than that Z...  You just don't carry more than three RBs on the active roster.  Right now, we have SIX running backs there, not counting Ford.  OK, count Felton as a WR if you like.  You're smoking something if you think he's going to be able to beat out Johnson who we re-upped.  Unless the Browns fancy him as a K\P returner, he's got practice squad written all over him.  Soon to go bye-bye to a RB needy team. Wasted pick Z, guys with his talent level are dime a dozen low rounds in any draft.  

                Where's Ben Gay when you need a training camp sensation?   😁 

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                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                  No matter What..... Draft Cade York ! 

                  Browns special teams coordinator Mike Priefer had several conversations with York this offseason. They watched film together in early March during the NFL Scouting Combine, and later in the pre-draft process, they met for dinner and a private workout.

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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                    Even though he might be used 2 ways, i think Felton will be counted in the WR numbers.

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                        I'm going with a solid middle C... (i woke up the most 'after a draft 2 angry' in years)

                        a.) we simply let to many talented 'position of need' players get off the board...

                        b.) Look at trade up prices starting in the 2nd round... Berry had all the ammo he needed to draft 5 solid players, with a team ready to win now..

                        c.) what the heck are we going to do with 2 years of Berry's drafted rookie contracts? Keep them all? I say there ain't no way ! 

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                          I'm going with a solid middle C... (i woke up the most 'after a draft 2 angry' in years)

                          a.) we simply let to many talented 'position of need' players get off the board...

                          b.) Look at trade up prices starting in the 2nd round... Berry had all the ammo he needed to draft 5 solid players, with a team ready to win now..

                          c.) what the heck are we going to do with 2 years of Berry's drafted rookie contracts? Keep them all? I say there ain't no way ! 

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                          @gumby73 said:

                          I'm going with a solid middle C... (i woke up the most 'after a draft 2 angry' in years)

                          a.) we simply let to many talented 'position of need' players get off the board...

                          b.) Look at trade up prices starting in the 2nd round... Berry had all the ammo he needed to draft 5 solid players, with a team ready to win now..

                          c.) what the heck are we going to do with 2 years of Berry's drafted rookie contracts? Keep them all? I say there ain't no way ! 

                          I definitely hate the front end of this draft... Emerson and Wright were guys that could've been had in the 4th-5th round

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                            Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                            I love the Bell pick at WR. 

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                              I love the Bell pick at WR. 

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                              @bob806 said:

                              I love the Bell pick at WR. 

                              We shouldve took Pickens instead.. We gave the Stoolers a gift.. not once but twice by letting them nab Leal.

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                                From the Monday May 2 Yahoo Sports, seems to be about what other services are reporting.   Sure seems like it came and went so fast.

                                Cleveland Browns

                                Picks: 3-68: Mississippi State CB Martin Emerson; 3-78: UAB DE Alex Wright; 3-99: Purdue WR David Bell; 4-108: Oklahoma DT Perrion Winfrey; 4-124: LSU K Cade York; 5-156: Cincinnati RB Jerome Ford; 6-202: Oklahoma WR Michael Woods; 7-223: Oklahoma EDGE Isaiah Thomas; 7-246: Texas Tech C Dawson Deaton

                                Favorite pick: Bell

                                Landing our No. 76 prospect at the 99th pick isn’t going to cause us to lose our minds, but it was a smart selection at a needy spot. Bell isn’t terribly different than Jarvis Landry, really, and could be productive if used correctly as a third wheel alongside Amari Cooper and Donovan Peoples-Jones. The opportunity will be there for Bell to contribute early, just as he did as a true freshman at Purdue, so getting him late in the third feels like a worthy investment.

                                Least-favorite pick: Emerson

                                He’s a physically gifted player with the length you love to see at the position, but he felt like a Day 3 pick. His feel for coverage is unnatural, he wasn’t a ballhawk in college and was way too grabby. Memphis and Alabama went after him and had success. So while there are traits to develop, we’re not exactly sure what Emerson’s realistic ceiling will be.

                                Overall: Their first- and fourth-rounders (and more) helped land Deshaun Watson; obvious risk with that move aside, that value could prove to be a franchise changer. And after moving back and accumulating more selections, the Browns were able to add depth on defense at positions of need. They also added help at receiver in the underrated Bell and landed a kicker who nailed a late-game 57-yarder in 2020 in heavy fog. The Watson move is a big part of this grade and that carries some volatility given his unresolved off-field troubles.

                                Grade: B-

                                Grade in 2021: A-
                                Grade in 2020: B+
                                Grade in 2019: A-

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                                  Do we get to count him the next two years as well? Or will they deduct if he bombs now that he gets paid regardless (just like a few others that seemed just fine doing that).?

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                                    @bob806 said:

                                    I love the Bell pick at WR. 

                                    We shouldve took Pickens instead.. We gave the Stoolers a gift.. not once but twice by letting them nab Leal.

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                                    @nickers said:

                                    We shouldve took Pickens instead.. We gave the Stoolers a gift.. not once but twice by letting them nab Leal.

                                    We will see in time. It's all speculation at this point.

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                                      I'm going with a solid middle C... (i woke up the most 'after a draft 2 angry' in years)

                                      a.) we simply let to many talented 'position of need' players get off the board...

                                      b.) Look at trade up prices starting in the 2nd round... Berry had all the ammo he needed to draft 5 solid players, with a team ready to win now..

                                      c.) what the heck are we going to do with 2 years of Berry's drafted rookie contracts? Keep them all? I say there ain't no way ! 

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gumby73 said:

                                      with a team ready to win now...

                                      Ummmm... Browns Board?

                                      Still a couple years away... again... 🙁 

                                      We added depth and scattered enough mid-round picks to conceivably hit on one or more.

                                      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                        OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                        Zombo said:

                                        Glad Berry is in charge and not you idiots.

                                        Really?   As I recall, you also called us idiots when we said that we needed to upgrade the QB position during this past season...so...

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                                          Even team gets an A until the truth is known 3 years later. 

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