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  • how about we make violent crime illegal? that sure will stop it, eh?

    maybe we should ban stupidity.....

  • So this?

    @mld-woody said:

    So this?

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

  • @mld-woody said:

    So this?

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    @mld-woody said:

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    Let pose this question...

    If you get rid of citizens guns, would you then do you get rid of police guns and any guns of private security for famous people, politicians, the President etc...?  They should not need them if citizens don't have them there would be no threat correct?

  • @mld-woody said:

    So this?

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    @mld-woody said:

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    I timed it Woody... The guy got off 100 rounds in about 25 seconds...  I doubt full auto mode is much faster. The limiting factor is how fast your trigger finger will fatigue.  Sporting weapon? SMH.. If your targets veer from the range to the sport of seeing how many humans in a crowded space you can kill in under a minute...  I forgot to mention to Steve... The reason the NRA tried to declare bankruptcy was for the simple reason to prevent them being sued.   

  • The M16A4—the standard infantry weapon of the U.S. Marine Corps since 2003—weighs less than 3.3 kg (just over 7 pounds) unloaded. It measures 100 cm (39 inches) long, has a 20-round or 30-round magazine, and fires 5.56-mm (. 223-calibre) ammunition at a rate of 700–950 rounds per minute.

  • @mld-woody said:

    So this?

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    @mld-woody said:

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    it is not the gun, it is the extension to 100 rounds.

    go ahead, make that illegal, I'm good with that.

    but drug cartels will just buy some black market rifles.

    see, they don't abide by the law. Neither do gangs.

    or terrorists.

  • The M16A4—the standard infantry weapon of the U.S. Marine Corps since 2003—weighs less than 3.3 kg (just over 7 pounds) unloaded. It measures 100 cm (39 inches) long, has a 20-round or 30-round magazine, and fires 5.56-mm (. 223-calibre) ammunition at a rate of 700–950 rounds per minute.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    The M16A4—the standard infantry weapon of the U.S. Marine Corps since 2003—weighs less than 3.3 kg (just over 7 pounds) unloaded. It measures 100 cm (39 inches) long, has a 20-round or 30-round magazine, and fires 5.56-mm (. 223-calibre) ammunition at a rate of 700–950 rounds per minute.

    Great... there ya have it...  the easily converted semi auto AR 15 can be converted to full auto by anyone with the skill level of a baboon and Internet access for about $20-30 bucks. However, AFAIK, there aren't any 700 round magazines currently available for that weapon.  Now if Mr. Rambo in the YouTube Woody posted happened to have a 700 round magazine, well golly gee, he could ONLY have gotten off maybe 250 rounds in a minute.  

    Furthermore, you Rambo wannabees had better realize you're not discussing weaponry with someone who's a LaLa land left wing liberal whos never been around guns in their entire life. Oh.. Ahh...  950 rounds a minute?  No hand held weapon can come close to that theoretical rate.  And you should know the full auto military versions are usually set in three shot bursts to not waste ammo.  Got your Vulcan cannon in your back yard that can spew out ammo  at 6,000 rounds per minute?   😁  😁  😁    Didn't think so, but a few guys who cream their pants seeing drum magazines getting fired sure wish they had one... Just for "self defense" of course....  

    I'm not gonna respond to the delusional idgit who thinks I don't know the difference between .22 LR ammo and .223 that's what's (hopefully)  about to be banned. If it's a "sporting" rifle. By Steve's NRA approved whitewash... Then why do you need a 30 round banana clip, and where's the attached scope for shooting coyotes at 300 yards?  If that's where you get your jollies off on, shit... Use a .300 Winchester magnum instead and blow the critter in half.   

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    The M16A4—the standard infantry weapon of the U.S. Marine Corps since 2003—weighs less than 3.3 kg (just over 7 pounds) unloaded. It measures 100 cm (39 inches) long, has a 20-round or 30-round magazine, and fires 5.56-mm (. 223-calibre) ammunition at a rate of 700–950 rounds per minute.

    Great... there ya have it...  the easily converted semi auto AR 15 can be converted to full auto by anyone with the skill level of a baboon and Internet access for about $20-30 bucks. However, AFAIK, there aren't any 700 round magazines currently available for that weapon.  Now if Mr. Rambo in the YouTube Woody posted happened to have a 700 round magazine, well golly gee, he could ONLY have gotten off maybe 250 rounds in a minute.  

    Furthermore, you Rambo wannabees had better realize you're not discussing weaponry with someone who's a LaLa land left wing liberal whos never been around guns in their entire life. Oh.. Ahh...  950 rounds a minute?  No hand held weapon can come close to that theoretical rate.  And you should know the full auto military versions are usually set in three shot bursts to not waste ammo.  Got your Vulcan cannon in your back yard that can spew out ammo  at 6,000 rounds per minute?   😁  😁  😁    Didn't think so, but a few guys who cream their pants seeing drum magazines getting fired sure wish they had one... Just for "self defense" of course....  

    I'm not gonna respond to the delusional idgit who thinks I don't know the difference between .22 LR ammo and .223 that's what's (hopefully)  about to be banned. If it's a "sporting" rifle. By Steve's NRA approved whitewash... Then why do you need a 30 round banana clip, and where's the attached scope for shooting coyotes at 300 yards?  If that's where you get your jollies off on, shit... Use a .300 Winchester magnum instead and blow the critter in half.   

    @hoorta said:

    Great... there ya have it...  the easily converted semi auto AR 15 can be converted to full auto by anyone with the skill level of a baboon and Internet access for about $20-30 bucks. However, AFAIK, there aren't any 700 round magazines currently available for that weapon.  Now if Mr. Rambo in the YouTube Woody posted happened to have a 700 round magazine, well golly gee, he could ONLY have gotten off maybe 250 rounds in a minute.  

    Furthermore, you Rambo wannabees had better realize you're not discussing weaponry with someone who's a LaLa land left wing liberal whos never been around guns in their entire life. Oh.. Ahh...  950 rounds a minute?  No hand held weapon can come close to that theoretical rate.  And you should know the full auto military versions are usually set in three shot bursts to not waste ammo.  Got your Vulcan cannon in your back yard that can spew out ammo  at 6,000 rounds per minute?   😁  😁  😁    Didn't think so, but a few guys who cream their pants seeing drum magazines getting fired sure wish they had one... Just for "self defense" of course....  

    I'm not gonna respond to the delusional idgit who thinks I don't know the difference between .22 LR ammo and .223 that's what's (hopefully)  about to be banned. If it's a "sporting" rifle. By Steve's NRA approved whitewash... Then why do you need a 30 round banana clip, and where's the attached scope for shooting coyotes at 300 yards?  If that's where you get your jollies off on, shit... Use a .300 Winchester magnum instead and blow the critter in half.   

  • What is the definition of “assault weapon “?

    @browns149 said:

    What is the definition of “assault weapon “?

    Something that looks scary. I believe the actual definition is an automatic rifle. I made a separate post about the difference between an AR-15 and an assault weapon.

    People are stupid.

    WSS

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    The M16A4—the standard infantry weapon of the U.S. Marine Corps since 2003—weighs less than 3.3 kg (just over 7 pounds) unloaded. It measures 100 cm (39 inches) long, has a 20-round or 30-round magazine, and fires 5.56-mm (. 223-calibre) ammunition at a rate of 700–950 rounds per minute.

    Great... there ya have it...  the easily converted semi auto AR 15 can be converted to full auto by anyone with the skill level of a baboon and Internet access for about $20-30 bucks. However, AFAIK, there aren't any 700 round magazines currently available for that weapon.  Now if Mr. Rambo in the YouTube Woody posted happened to have a 700 round magazine, well golly gee, he could ONLY have gotten off maybe 250 rounds in a minute.  

    Furthermore, you Rambo wannabees had better realize you're not discussing weaponry with someone who's a LaLa land left wing liberal whos never been around guns in their entire life. Oh.. Ahh...  950 rounds a minute?  No hand held weapon can come close to that theoretical rate.  And you should know the full auto military versions are usually set in three shot bursts to not waste ammo.  Got your Vulcan cannon in your back yard that can spew out ammo  at 6,000 rounds per minute?   😁  😁  😁    Didn't think so, but a few guys who cream their pants seeing drum magazines getting fired sure wish they had one... Just for "self defense" of course....  

    I'm not gonna respond to the delusional idgit who thinks I don't know the difference between .22 LR ammo and .223 that's what's (hopefully)  about to be banned. If it's a "sporting" rifle. By Steve's NRA approved whitewash... Then why do you need a 30 round banana clip, and where's the attached scope for shooting coyotes at 300 yards?  If that's where you get your jollies off on, shit... Use a .300 Winchester magnum instead and blow the critter in half.   

    @hoorta said:

    Great... there ya have it...  the easily converted semi auto AR 15 can be converted to full auto by anyone with the skill level of a baboon and Internet access for about $20-30 bucks. However, AFAIK, there aren't any 700 round magazines currently available for that weapon.  Now if Mr. Rambo in the YouTube Woody posted happened to have a 700 round magazine, well golly gee, he could ONLY have gotten off maybe 250 rounds in a minute.  

    Furthermore, you Rambo wannabees had better realize you're not discussing weaponry with someone who's a LaLa land left wing liberal whos never been around guns in their entire life. Oh.. Ahh...  950 rounds a minute?  No hand held weapon can come close to that theoretical rate.  And you should know the full auto military versions are usually set in three shot bursts to not waste ammo.  Got your Vulcan cannon in your back yard that can spew out ammo  at 6,000 rounds per minute?   😁  😁  😁    Didn't think so, but a few guys who cream their pants seeing drum magazines getting fired sure wish they had one... Just for "self defense" of course....  

    I'm not gonna respond to the delusional idgit who thinks I don't know the difference between .22 LR ammo and .223 that's what's (hopefully)  about to be banned. If it's a "sporting" rifle. By Steve's NRA approved whitewash... Then why do you need a 30 round banana clip, and where's the attached scope for shooting coyotes at 300 yards?  If that's where you get your jollies off on, shit... Use a .300 Winchester magnum instead and blow the critter in half.   

    I qualified in this, the M16A1 (which is what they had), 50 cal, .45 cal, .38 cal, 20 gauge and claymore mines.  Also the Redeye Missile (now the stinger).

  • @mld-woody said:

    Anyone?

    This is what the gun group here wants to keep legal, correct?

    Just want to make sure I'm in the same page with your definitions

    it is not the gun, it is the extension to 100 rounds.

    go ahead, make that illegal, I'm good with that.

    but drug cartels will just buy some black market rifles.

    see, they don't abide by the law. Neither do gangs.

    or terrorists.

    @calfoxwc said:

    it is not the gun, it is the extension to 100 rounds.

    go ahead, make that illegal, I'm good with that.

    but drug cartels will just buy some black market rifles.

    see, they don't abide by the law. Neither do gangs.

    or terrorists.

    Ignore the 100 round extension

    That gun is shooting semi auto, correct? That is what you're saying should be legal?

  • @browns149 said:

    What is the definition of “assault weapon “?

    Something that looks scary. I believe the actual definition is an automatic rifle. I made a separate post about the difference between an AR-15 and an assault weapon.

    People are stupid.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Something that looks scary. I believe the actual definition is an automatic rifle. I made a separate post about the difference between an AR-15 and an assault weapon.

    People are stupid.

    WSS

    Sure, people are stupid

    But this also seems like a purposeful argument over semantics pushed by the right / gun enthusiasts

    Left wants to ban assault weapons

    Right defines assault weapon as automatic

    Right points out mass shooting (or otherwise) gun is semi auto

    Right says Dems don't know what's assault weapon even is and that their ban won't do anything

    Rinse and repeat

    That's why I posted a video of a semi auto AR so we could get on the same page. The same video basically no one has responded to or answered my direct question from. Cal just dancing around it. 

    arguing over the definition of assault weapon is being done on purpose, to pull from any actual meaningful debate and to insulate us from real gun reform

  • @westside-steve said:

    Something that looks scary. I believe the actual definition is an automatic rifle. I made a separate post about the difference between an AR-15 and an assault weapon.

    People are stupid.

    WSS

    Sure, people are stupid

    But this also seems like a purposeful argument over semantics pushed by the right / gun enthusiasts

    Left wants to ban assault weapons

    Right defines assault weapon as automatic

    Right points out mass shooting (or otherwise) gun is semi auto

    Right says Dems don't know what's assault weapon even is and that their ban won't do anything

    Rinse and repeat

    That's why I posted a video of a semi auto AR so we could get on the same page. The same video basically no one has responded to or answered my direct question from. Cal just dancing around it. 

    arguing over the definition of assault weapon is being done on purpose, to pull from any actual meaningful debate and to insulate us from real gun reform

    @mld-woody said:

    Sure, people are stupid

    But this also seems like a purposeful argument over semantics pushed by the right / gun enthusiasts

    Left wants to ban assault weapons

    Right defines assault weapon as automatic

    Right points out mass shooting (or otherwise) gun is semi auto

    Right says Dems don't know what's assault weapon even is and that their ban won't do anything

    Rinse and repeat

    That's why I posted a video of a semi auto AR so we could get on the same page. The same video basically no one has responded to or answered my direct question from. Cal just dancing around it. 

    arguing over the definition of assault weapon is being done on purpose, to pull from any actual meaningful debate and to insulate us from real gun reform

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Sure, people are stupid

    But this also seems like a purposeful argument over semantics pushed by the right / gun enthusiasts

    Left wants to ban assault weapons

    Right defines assault weapon as automatic

    Right points out mass shooting (or otherwise) gun is semi auto

    Right says Dems don't know what's assault weapon even is and that their ban won't do anything

    Rinse and repeat

    That's why I posted a video of a semi auto AR so we could get on the same page. The same video basically no one has responded to or answered my direct question from. Cal just dancing around it. 

    arguing over the definition of assault weapon is being done on purpose, to pull from any actual meaningful debate and to insulate us from real gun reform

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

  • A knife is an assault weapon.  A tactical pen is also.  Your fists can be assault weapons.  It's word fuck.

  • May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'AllI'm I'm asking for is the right to the same weapons that I paid for the Taliban to own -Michael Malice'

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

    @mld-woody said:

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

    How do you ban assault weapons from criminals?

    That is what we haven't heard...like Chicago some of the strictest gun laws out there but more people shot than almost any other place.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    it is not the gun, it is the extension to 100 rounds.

    go ahead, make that illegal, I'm good with that.

    but drug cartels will just buy some black market rifles.

    see, they don't abide by the law. Neither do gangs.

    or terrorists.

    Ignore the 100 round extension

    That gun is shooting semi auto, correct? That is what you're saying should be legal?

    @mld-woody said:

    Ignore the 100 round extension

    That gun is shooting semi auto, correct? That is what you're saying should be legal?

    of course. Have you EVER shot a gun? The function of semi-automatic is simple. Flip the safety off, pull trigger twice, shoots twice. If I hunt wild boar because they are a serious menace, would YOU want to only have one shot? If a parent has a family member being attacked by a grizzly in Montana or Alaska, would YOU want only a single shot .22 to save them with, because the leftwing gov says 9mm and anything else bigger is "scary" and more than one shot is "scary" ???

        The political rationalizations are staggering. The rambo slurs, like you know who slurred, are just in-your-face stupid ass garbage.

         Seriously, stop and think - 180 million people are perfectly safe when they own guns, and ten people who are mentally ill and enraged commit horrific crimes - why blame and persecute the 179, 999,990 gun owners?

         I'd say the reason is simple - the left wants to have a giant ultimate? win politically over who they deem as political opponents.

        A gun is a tool. The jingoistic slogans do not help solve any problem. Guns are designed to shoot bullets. Period. NOT to "kill people". How the tool is used - defending against aggression by people or animals or reptiles, hunting (ever watch "Swamp People" ?

        Jingoistic slogans, ignorance, belligerent stupid-ass slurs, etc never solve any problem.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

    @mld-woody said:

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

    The reason is that it sounds frightening. And makes it easier for you people to go after guns in general. You could plainly see for my other post that AR doesn't even stand for assault rifle. But it doesn't matter because the Liberals and the fake news have inserted the term into the American lexicon whether it's meaningful or not. (not unlike  "hate crime) No doubt someone will pass a bill to ban 'assault weapons' which will mean nothing and you can have your Victory lap.

    Here's another article for you to ignore but if you choose to look at it for a second tell me what's the difference between these hunting rifles and assault weapons. Remember also that in Ohio The Legal magazine limit is 30 rounds. I'm guessing that will be the thin end of the wedge.

    "9 Accurate Semi-Automatic Hunting Rifles – Backfire" https://backfire.tv/9-accurate-semi-automatic-rifles/

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well of course you're wrong again. The definition of assault weapon is the definition of an assault weapon. Because the term scares people. What you really want is to ban semi-automatic weapon leaving nothing but single-shot bolt-action or maybe revolvers. If that's what you want just say so. But it's popular whether it's meaningful or not. Classical definition of straw man. We spend a lot of time bickering about tiny facets of wedge issues.

    WSS

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

    @mld-woody said:

    That last sentence, that's the point. It's just being driven by the opposite side you think it was. Because if it wasn't we'd have to actually talk more directly about guns in this country, and that would clearly be bad for the pro game b crowd. That's why we hear them calling for Jesus, doors, etc... Everything but guns

    And yeah, I'm fine saying I'd like to ban semi auto weapons. Again, I posted a video of an AR shooting semi auto. Extended rounds or not, are we really saying the average citizen needs that firepower? 

    Also, why even have the term assault weapon if assault just means automatic? Honest question 

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