Haslams Eyeing New Domed Stadium for Browns
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They don't have Tom Brady any more. That euphoria is over. - It's all about winning. When my generation was young, a few of us could decide to go see a game, get in the car and drive the 45 minutes to the stadium, buy tickets at the box office, go inside and watch the game. It's all about winning.. It's harder to make yourself go watch your team, in the winter type weather, in an outdoor stadium, when the team is not a consistent winner.....than it is to go watch them in a dome and not get soaked and frozen. And it doesn't matter the team name.
Are you trying to say you're now an oldster, who doesn't like to get cold and\ or wet at a game anymore? I've been to three domed stadiums... Lions, Colts, and Texans. MHO is if you like that sort of ambiance, you may as well stay home and watch the game on TV, because that's what it feels like in a Dome.
If my count is correct, there's only 9 "true" domed stadiums in the NFL. SoFi is covered but IIRC it's open air. Every one of those Domes has pretty legit reasons for being domed. Vikes, cold weather . Cardinals and Raiders 110 degrees in early September. You could say Indy and Detroit don't have any worse weather than Cleveland. TBD if Buffalo's new stadium will be domed or not. So the other 23 teams without a dome suffer the same fate as Cleveland... We can't use that facility year round for stuff...
Yeah, I may be an outlier with my mountaineering and winter camping experience. But it's ALL how you approach the weather, and having the right gear. I sat through 10 degree weather with occasional snow at Michigan's Stadium for the NHL Hockey Winter Classic, and I can' honestly say I wasn't cold. .
TBD if Buffalo's new stadium will be domed or not. .
Buffalo will have a 62,000 seat open-air stadium. It is estimated that it will cost well over a billion dollars.
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They don't have Tom Brady any more. That euphoria is over. - It's all about winning. When my generation was young, a few of us could decide to go see a game, get in the car and drive the 45 minutes to the stadium, buy tickets at the box office, go inside and watch the game. It's all about winning.. It's harder to make yourself go watch your team, in the winter type weather, in an outdoor stadium, when the team is not a consistent winner.....than it is to go watch them in a dome and not get soaked and frozen. And it doesn't matter the team name.
Are you trying to say you're now an oldster, who doesn't like to get cold and\ or wet at a game anymore? I've been to three domed stadiums... Lions, Colts, and Texans. MHO is if you like that sort of ambiance, you may as well stay home and watch the game on TV, because that's what it feels like in a Dome.
If my count is correct, there's only 9 "true" domed stadiums in the NFL. SoFi is covered but IIRC it's open air. Every one of those Domes has pretty legit reasons for being domed. Vikes, cold weather . Cardinals and Raiders 110 degrees in early September. You could say Indy and Detroit don't have any worse weather than Cleveland. TBD if Buffalo's new stadium will be domed or not. So the other 23 teams without a dome suffer the same fate as Cleveland... We can't use that facility year round for stuff...
Yeah, I may be an outlier with my mountaineering and winter camping experience. But it's ALL how you approach the weather, and having the right gear. I sat through 10 degree weather with occasional snow at Michigan's Stadium for the NHL Hockey Winter Classic, and I can' honestly say I wasn't cold. .
Are you trying to say you're now an oldster, who doesn't like to get cold and\ or wet at a game
Absolutely. Remember, it's sports entertainment....that's what the NFL is.
if you like that sort of ambiance, you may as well stay home and watch the game on TV,
It's ALWAYS better to watch it on TV. Indoors, outdoors, you name it. Now, if you wanna watch 'off the ball' stuff, like receivers running routes, DB's doing their thing, then you can watch that indoors or outdoors.
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I will be shocked if the Haslams don't try to move every mountain to get a new indoor stadium.
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Honestly, I used to be in the "you need to deal with the weather! that's REAL football crowd!"
That's old thinking now though. We need to get with times and have a stadium that's usable year round and for multiple events. And one that promotes more attendance in the colder months
I know it is "soft". I know it's "not Cleveland". But it makes economic sense
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Honestly, I used to be in the "you need to deal with the weather! that's REAL football crowd!"
That's old thinking now though. We need to get with times and have a stadium that's usable year round and for multiple events. And one that promotes more attendance in the colder months
I know it is "soft". I know it's "not Cleveland". But it makes economic sense
Honestly, I used to be in the "you need to deal with the weather! that's REAL football crowd!"
That's old thinking now though. We need to get with times and have a stadium that's usable year round and for multiple events. And one that promotes more attendance in the colder months
I know it is "soft". I know it's "not Cleveland". But it makes economic sense
Sadly, yes.
I love bad weather football gamea. Snow, mud, bring it on.
But economically, it makes zero sense to build a stadium that sits vacant 90% of the time, especially with tax payer money. Economically it also makes zero sense to sink a ton of money into refurbishing First Energy instead of sinking a ton of money into a stadium that can make a lot more money.
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
Oh Jesus here we go...
This isn't "woke" anything. It just makes business sense. Stop shoving your idiotic ideas where they don't belong.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
So much for "the good ol' days" having a northern climate single use open stadium just doesn't make good business "dollars & cents ".
And now just putting lipstick on that old pig the current CBS mediocre mess is a bad idea and get stuck with it for decades into the future is just a bad sports and business decision.
We put up with that lovable but totally outdated two sport Municipal Stadium for my whole lifetime plus several decades and did what.......hurriedly built another open stadium right on Lake Erie. Bad decision.
I can't wait to see what happens next.
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I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
Oh Jesus here we go...
This isn't "woke" anything. It just makes business sense. Stop shoving your idiotic ideas where they don't belong.
Oh Jesus here we go...
This isn't "woke" anything. It just makes business sense. Stop shoving your idiotic ideas where they don't belong.
Stop commenting on things you know nothing about... Commie!
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Oh Jesus here we go...
This isn't "woke" anything. It just makes business sense. Stop shoving your idiotic ideas where they don't belong.
Stop commenting on things you know nothing about... Commie!
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Because the last thing a midwestern Rust Belt city needs to do is spend a ton of money on a building that can barely be used to make money.
I love outdoor football. The nasty the weather, the better. Fiscally, it makes no sense, though.
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
I'll agree... Green Bay that has way worse weather prospects than Cleveland December on, doesn't have a dome on the horizon... None of the other AFC North teams have domes... Said it before, if you can afford tickets to an NFL game, you can afford to go to REI and spend $200+ bucks on a cold weather parka, and some Sorel boots. I can tell you from a SW Ohio perspective, Da Bungles will never have a domed stadium in my lifetime- I damn guarantee it. Not with Mike Brown not being able to spring for an indoor practice facility. And if he asked for a dome, Hamilton County would tell him to go pound salt.
Oh Jesus here we go...
This isn't "woke" anything. It just makes business sense. Stop shoving your idiotic ideas where they don't belong.
It may not make business sense Woodster, but it does make a lot of aesthetic sense. The majority of NFL venues- including at least a dozen with cold weather prospects agree.
The fan base that goes to games has changed- and not for the better. To give away my age, I probably saw my first Browns game "live" circa 1960. Shit, it was like being at a high school game. Screaming yelling, guys in their 70s jumping up and down. No longer. Blame NFL greed in part for that. Gramps got courtesy tickets two rows behind the Indians dugout that were listed at $4 bucks. I'll let you pull out the inflation calculator what that is in 2022 dollars, but I'll bet it sure as shit isn't anywhere close.
Ah give me those good old days when if you were 1\2 discreet, you could haul any type of adult beverage you wanted to into the stadium... Fifths? No prob. 2 liter 7Ups that were 1\2 seven and 1\2 vodka. The famous Dawg Pound Dawg House that contained a keg. All in the name of "security" or forcing you to buy a $12 buck Great Lakes once you get inside. Not Rocket Science why tailgating has become a tradition.
I'm in Section 111... almost like being at the opera now. DOWN IN FRONT!!!! I'd rather check my Fantasy stats on my phone than watch the game....
I get seriously pissed- and this isn't isolated to Cleveland.... When it comes over the PA Bullhorn... IT'S THIRD DOWN!!!! You think I don't know that? Apparently a lot of the younger generation who are too busy playing phone tag texting et al- apparently does need to be "woke" Woody. My 0.02
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I hate Jimmy Haslam but I think it would probably be good for the city of Cleveland to have a dome somewhere and do some other kind of development on the lakefront.
On the other hand I hate turf but I hate Frozen Dirt too.
WSS
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I hate Jimmy Haslam but I think it would probably be good for the city of Cleveland to have a dome somewhere and do some other kind of development on the lakefront.
On the other hand I hate turf but I hate Frozen Dirt too.
WSS
I hate Jimmy Haslam but I think it would probably be good for the city of Cleveland to have a dome somewhere and do some other kind of development on the lakefront.
On the other hand I hate turf but I hate Frozen Dirt too.
WSS
Eliminates our wind problems for our elusive kicker anyway. Maybe now we can actually find one with accuracy.?️???
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I hate Jimmy Haslam but I think it would probably be good for the city of Cleveland to have a dome somewhere and do some other kind of development on the lakefront.
On the other hand I hate turf but I hate Frozen Dirt too.
WSS
Eliminates our wind problems for our elusive kicker anyway. Maybe now we can actually find one with accuracy.?️???
Eliminates our wind problems for our elusive kicker anyway. Maybe now we can actually find one with accuracy.?️???
" it's raining on both sides of the ball."
WSS
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I'm thinking that they're just gonna keep moving this thread on ya.
So, as I said in the 'other' thread, that got moved to the New Stadium abyss; Having a dome could help to keep Watson for longer since he hates cold weather. (that's like a half-joke)
And a 23 year old stadium is decrepit and needs to be replaced? Really? What lousy builders. The ancient Romans are laughing it up in heaven.
I'm thinking that they're just gonna keep moving this thread on ya.
So, as I said in the 'other' thread, that got moved to the New Stadium abyss; Having a dome could help to keep Watson for longer since he hates cold weather. (that's like a half-joke)
And a 23 year old stadium is decrepit and needs to be replaced? Really? What lousy builders. The ancient Romans are laughing it up in heaven.
Well, the Romans also used slaves and built things over decades.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
I'm thinking that they're just gonna keep moving this thread on ya.
So, as I said in the 'other' thread, that got moved to the New Stadium abyss; Having a dome could help to keep Watson for longer since he hates cold weather. (that's like a half-joke)
And a 23 year old stadium is decrepit and needs to be replaced? Really? What lousy builders. The ancient Romans are laughing it up in heaven.
Well, the Romans also used slaves and built things over decades.
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Because the last thing a midwestern Rust Belt city needs to do is spend a ton of money on a building that can barely be used to make money.
I love outdoor football. The nasty the weather, the better. Fiscally, it makes no sense, though.
Because the last thing a midwestern Rust Belt city needs to do is spend a ton of money on a building that can barely be used to make money.
I love outdoor football. The nasty the weather, the better. Fiscally, it makes no sense, though.
Yea I agree. However Heinz gets used for plenty, weather permitting. I can’t imagine the Steelers ever playing in a dome and frankly the same goes for the browns.
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