Haslams Eyeing New Domed Stadium for Browns
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
Because the last thing a midwestern Rust Belt city needs to do is spend a ton of money on a building that can barely be used to make money.
I love outdoor football. The nasty the weather, the better. Fiscally, it makes no sense, though.
Because the last thing a midwestern Rust Belt city needs to do is spend a ton of money on a building that can barely be used to make money.
I love outdoor football. The nasty the weather, the better. Fiscally, it makes no sense, though.
Yea I agree. However Heinz gets used for plenty, weather permitting. I can’t imagine the Steelers ever playing in a dome and frankly the same goes for the browns.
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Why would you build a dome? I get the appeal for obvious reasons but isn’t Cleveland/steeler football kind of rooted in those shit weather games? I feel like it leaves behind a identity.
I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
I totally concur... It takes an exciting element away from the game... The game is essentially being catered to bunch of woke sissies... And Goodeel is the biggest sissy cheerleader of them all.. I agree with Jon Gruden when he says Goodell is pussifying the league...
I don’t think it has anything to do with being or not being woke. I agree goodell seriously sucks but don’t think gruden should be saying much of anything. Either way a dome in Cleveland goes against team culture. Pittsburgh runs a lot out of PPG when the weather sucks, the Q if it’s still the Q serves that purpose. Haslam is a dumbass for pushing a dome. Hell maybe he thinks he has enough bad pr with watson he might as well rip the bandaid off and mention a dome.
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It would be seriously weird to go to a steeler home game in a damn dome. I’d hate it and it’s not like I love being cold in November/December. However all of that is PART of the Steelers. The wind out of the open end is part of playing at Heinz etc. I also hated playing on turf, it seems nice at first but it’s easy to get hurt and at the nfl level it’s even more likely. Fuck domes and fuck turf and fuck the browns playing in a dome. Lol
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I'm thinking that they're just gonna keep moving this thread on ya.
So, as I said in the 'other' thread, that got moved to the New Stadium abyss; Having a dome could help to keep Watson for longer since he hates cold weather. (that's like a half-joke)
And a 23 year old stadium is decrepit and needs to be replaced? Really? What lousy builders. The ancient Romans are laughing it up in heaven.
Well, the Romans also used slaves and built things over decades.
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I still think it foolish to build a open air stadium you can't use half the year.
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I still think it foolish to build a open air stadium you can't use half the year.
This is why we have places like Public Hall and Music Hall that aren't even being utilized for indoor/winter time events... A city treasure basically forgotten which I find really disappointing.. Fuck Jimmy and his money grubbing ideas...I wish he would pack up this fraud of a team and move it to Memphis...
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I still think it foolish to build a open air stadium you can't use half the year.
This is why we have places like Public Hall and Music Hall that aren't even being utilized for indoor/winter time events... A city treasure basically forgotten which I find really disappointing.. Fuck Jimmy and his money grubbing ideas...I wish he would pack up this fraud of a team and move it to Memphis...
This is why we have places like Public Hall and Music Hall that aren't even being utilized for indoor/winter time events... A city treasure basically forgotten which I find really disappointing.. Fuck Jimmy and his money grubbing ideas...I wish he would pack up this fraud of a team and move it to Memphis...
I think you are in the minority on that one.
I am all for using the other facilities. The problem is for some events they aren't big enough. Some events need a large field or are really expecting to draw 30,000 plus people.
For me, I don't really give a darn when it comes right down to it.
First, I don't live in the area any more so other than Browns games, I wouldn't be going.
Second, I am old enough i won't be going to games for that much longer.
Third, I upgraded to club seats about 8 years ago so if it is cold, i have a warm place to go before the game and at halftime...and hell, if it is cold enough i can just stay inside and watch on TV. I haven't done that yet, but I can if I wish.
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This is why we have places like Public Hall and Music Hall that aren't even being utilized for indoor/winter time events... A city treasure basically forgotten which I find really disappointing.. Fuck Jimmy and his money grubbing ideas...I wish he would pack up this fraud of a team and move it to Memphis...
I think you are in the minority on that one.
I am all for using the other facilities. The problem is for some events they aren't big enough. Some events need a large field or are really expecting to draw 30,000 plus people.
For me, I don't really give a darn when it comes right down to it.
First, I don't live in the area any more so other than Browns games, I wouldn't be going.
Second, I am old enough i won't be going to games for that much longer.
Third, I upgraded to club seats about 8 years ago so if it is cold, i have a warm place to go before the game and at halftime...and hell, if it is cold enough i can just stay inside and watch on TV. I haven't done that yet, but I can if I wish.
I think you are in the minority on that one.
I am all for using the other facilities. The problem is for some events they aren't big enough. Some events need a large field or are really expecting to draw 30,000 plus people......right offhand I could come up dozen or two good offseason and away game uses for a domed stadium 12 MONTHS a year.
Remember too there are only 1 or 2 preseason and 8 or 9 home football games, the rest of the time the stadium is mostly empty......especially all winter.
Why build a venue for 9 to 12 primary uses.
Yes. This is about wise urban planning and to offer an exciting football experience. Concerts, conventions, moto racing, rodeos, monster truck shows on and on the uses are endless IF you have the facilities available.
I could go for a retractable roof option for the new Cleveland BROWNS Stadium just don't blow it again.
A beautiful fall day roof open, 20 degrees and blowing snow roof closed.....can't be simpler than that.
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I think you are in the minority on that one.
I am all for using the other facilities. The problem is for some events they aren't big enough. Some events need a large field or are really expecting to draw 30,000 plus people......right offhand I could come up dozen or two good offseason and away game uses for a domed stadium 12 MONTHS a year.
Remember too there are only 1 or 2 preseason and 8 or 9 home football games, the rest of the time the stadium is mostly empty......especially all winter.
Why build a venue for 9 to 12 primary uses.
Yes. This is about wise urban planning and to offer an exciting football experience. Concerts, conventions, moto racing, rodeos, monster truck shows on and on the uses are endless IF you have the facilities available.
I could go for a retractable roof option for the new Cleveland BROWNS Stadium just don't blow it again.
A beautiful fall day roof open, 20 degrees and blowing snow roof closed.....can't be simpler than that.
Yes. This is about wise urban planning and to offer an exciting football experience. Concerts, conventions, moto racing, rodeos, monster truck shows on and on the uses are endless IF you have the facilities available.
I could go for a retractable roof option for the new Cleveland BROWNS Stadium just don't blow it again.
A beautiful fall day roof open, 20 degrees and blowing snow roof closed.....can't be simpler than that.
One could even say you might only open the roof 2-3 games a year, so is the added cost over a fixed dome necessary? Those home openers are usually hot as heck. I'd want the roof closed for those. In the south, domes are built to keep heat out as much or more over keeping rain or cold out.
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Yes. This is about wise urban planning and to offer an exciting football experience. Concerts, conventions, moto racing, rodeos, monster truck shows on and on the uses are endless IF you have the facilities available.
I could go for a retractable roof option for the new Cleveland BROWNS Stadium just don't blow it again.
A beautiful fall day roof open, 20 degrees and blowing snow roof closed.....can't be simpler than that.
One could even say you might only open the roof 2-3 games a year, so is the added cost over a fixed dome necessary? Those home openers are usually hot as heck. I'd want the roof closed for those. In the south, domes are built to keep heat out as much or more over keeping rain or cold out.
One could even say you might only open the roof 2-3 games a year, so is the added cost over a fixed dome necessary? Those home openers are usually hot as heck. I'd want the roof closed for those. In the south, domes are built to keep heat out as much or more over keeping rain or cold out.
I agree, honestly I think the increased price for a retractable dome for a handful of days a year isn't worth it.
I mean, if it was up to me, I'd build a retractable dome that could never be closed during Browns games, but there isn't a chance in hell the NFL would let that happen.
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Yes. This is about wise urban planning and to offer an exciting football experience. Concerts, conventions, moto racing, rodeos, monster truck shows on and on the uses are endless IF you have the facilities available.
I could go for a retractable roof option for the new Cleveland BROWNS Stadium just don't blow it again.
A beautiful fall day roof open, 20 degrees and blowing snow roof closed.....can't be simpler than that.
One could even say you might only open the roof 2-3 games a year, so is the added cost over a fixed dome necessary? Those home openers are usually hot as heck. I'd want the roof closed for those. In the south, domes are built to keep heat out as much or more over keeping rain or cold out.
One could even say you might only open the roof 2-3 games a year, so is the added cost over a fixed dome necessary? Those home openers are usually hot as heck. I'd want the roof closed for those. In the south, domes are built to keep heat out as much or more over keeping rain or cold out.
Recently the weather hasn't been that bad for BROWNS games I bet it would be open at least half of the home games. But why guess let's go to NFLWeather.com.
Hmmmm, not too bad.......edit add, they could have used a retractable roof (open/closed option) in almost every home game warm or lousy. The last few were cut off but cold and miserable. But remember that the roof comes in for all venues 12 months a year, that's how you justify it not just home football games.
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Things to consider.
If it is in the 40's it would be closed. Probably the 50's
If it is in the 80's it would be closed.
The NFL is in charge of the retractable roofs. It isn't a decision made by the home team. The decision is usually made before gameday. I don't think the NFL allows the roof to move once the game starts.
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Things to consider.
If it is in the 40's it would be closed. Probably the 50's
If it is in the 80's it would be closed.
The NFL is in charge of the retractable roofs. It isn't a decision made by the home team. The decision is usually made before gameday. I don't think the NFL allows the roof to move once the game starts.
Things to consider.
If it is in the 40's it would be closed. Probably the 50's
If it is in the 80's it would be closed.
The NFL is in charge of the retractable roofs. It isn't a decision made by the home team. The decision is usually made before gameday. I don't think the NFL allows the roof to move once the game starts.
This is completely stupid... Home teams should have autonomy in this decision.. No one knows the weather better than the people living in it...
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Things to consider.
If it is in the 40's it would be closed. Probably the 50's
If it is in the 80's it would be closed.
The NFL is in charge of the retractable roofs. It isn't a decision made by the home team. The decision is usually made before gameday. I don't think the NFL allows the roof to move once the game starts.
Things to consider.
If it is in the 40's it would be closed. Probably the 50's
If it is in the 80's it would be closed.
The NFL is in charge of the retractable roofs. It isn't a decision made by the home team. The decision is usually made before gameday. I don't think the NFL allows the roof to move once the game starts.
That may be true the NFL.inc likes to run and control everything it can. (I'll try and find that out for sure.)
Maybe because of camera serups, whatever.
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I will amend my comment about home teams. They do have some control over the matter along with the NFL. Exactly how that works i don't know. I am sure there are some parameters involved.
As an example I don't think a team could decide the night before in a snow storm they were going to play with a open roof, giving them some sort of advantage becuse the other team didn't pack all of the cold weather gear needs to play outdoors.
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