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  • @texasag1969 said:

    We were talking Baker here.

    I think my brain just jumped threads......but I'll just have to save those numbers for a DW spot.

    We're not talking about DW now are we ?    😕 

    Jeezzzus H. Christmas.         😆

  • I just had to bury that post.  A quote directly from our favorite #6......

    An edit add.....

    .......“I think for that to happen there would have to be some reaching out,” Mayfield told reporters during his youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma. “But we’re ready to move on, I think — on both sides.”

    Currently, the plan for the Browns is to go with veteran journeyman Jacoby Brissett as their starter when Watson is out.

    “The Cleveland Browns are still bracing for a significant suspension to their starting quarterback. If the NFL does suspend [Deshaun Watson], expect the Browns to enter training camp with Jacoby Brissett, not Baker Mayfield, as their starting quarterback,” ESPN’s Jake Trotter said on SportsCenter. “While Mayfield remains on Cleveland’s roster, I’ve been told he has no intention of playing for the Browns again. Cleveland has no plans for this to happen either. Instead, in the event of a Watson suspension, look for the Browns to move forward with Brissett, the former Indianapolis Colt, as the starter at quarterback.”....... 

    IT'S OVER NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. 

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    We were talking Baker here.

    I think my brain just jumped threads......but I'll just have to save those numbers for a DW spot.

    We're not talking about DW now are we ?    😕 

    Jeezzzus H. Christmas.         😆

    @mjp28 said:

    I think my brain just jumped threads......but I'll just have to save those numbers for a DW spot.

    We're not talking about DW now are we ?    😕 

    Jeezzzus H. Christmas.         😆

    And I deleted mine since it contained yours.  LOL!?

  • I just had to bury that post.  A quote directly from our favorite #6......

    An edit add.....

    .......“I think for that to happen there would have to be some reaching out,” Mayfield told reporters during his youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma. “But we’re ready to move on, I think — on both sides.”

    Currently, the plan for the Browns is to go with veteran journeyman Jacoby Brissett as their starter when Watson is out.

    “The Cleveland Browns are still bracing for a significant suspension to their starting quarterback. If the NFL does suspend [Deshaun Watson], expect the Browns to enter training camp with Jacoby Brissett, not Baker Mayfield, as their starting quarterback,” ESPN’s Jake Trotter said on SportsCenter. “While Mayfield remains on Cleveland’s roster, I’ve been told he has no intention of playing for the Browns again. Cleveland has no plans for this to happen either. Instead, in the event of a Watson suspension, look for the Browns to move forward with Brissett, the former Indianapolis Colt, as the starter at quarterback.”....... 

    IT'S OVER NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. 

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    @mjp28 said:

    I just had to bury that post.  A quote directly from our favorite #6......

    An edit add.....

    .......“I think for that to happen there would have to be some reaching out,” Mayfield told reporters during his youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma. “But we’re ready to move on, I think — on both sides.”

    Currently, the plan for the Browns is to go with veteran journeyman Jacoby Brissett as their starter when Watson is out.

    “The Cleveland Browns are still bracing for a significant suspension to their starting quarterback. If the NFL does suspend [Deshaun Watson], expect the Browns to enter training camp with Jacoby Brissett, not Baker Mayfield, as their starting quarterback,” ESPN’s Jake Trotter said on SportsCenter. “While Mayfield remains on Cleveland’s roster, I’ve been told he has no intention of playing for the Browns again. Cleveland has no plans for this to happen either. Instead, in the event of a Watson suspension, look for the Browns to move forward with Brissett, the former Indianapolis Colt, as the starter at quarterback.”....... 

    IT'S OVER NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. 

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    What else is new in Cleveland?

  • @mjp28 said:

    I just had to bury that post.  A quote directly from our favorite #6......

    An edit add.....

    .......“I think for that to happen there would have to be some reaching out,” Mayfield told reporters during his youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma. “But we’re ready to move on, I think — on both sides.”

    Currently, the plan for the Browns is to go with veteran journeyman Jacoby Brissett as their starter when Watson is out.

    “The Cleveland Browns are still bracing for a significant suspension to their starting quarterback. If the NFL does suspend [Deshaun Watson], expect the Browns to enter training camp with Jacoby Brissett, not Baker Mayfield, as their starting quarterback,” ESPN’s Jake Trotter said on SportsCenter. “While Mayfield remains on Cleveland’s roster, I’ve been told he has no intention of playing for the Browns again. Cleveland has no plans for this to happen either. Instead, in the event of a Watson suspension, look for the Browns to move forward with Brissett, the former Indianapolis Colt, as the starter at quarterback.”....... 

    IT'S OVER NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. 

    7WDAQL7XYJERJJS4CQON7UFHXQ.JPG

    What else is new in Cleveland?

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    What else is new in Cleveland?

    Haven't I heard that tune before ?

  • Sean McVay Admits 1 Regret From The Jared Goff Trade (msn.com)

    This is the press conference I wish Stepfanski had. The only Playoff win we've had in a long-long time and he wasn't even there to coach it. Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win. Maybe that's what Kevin's deal is...

  • Sean McVay Admits 1 Regret From The Jared Goff Trade (msn.com)

    This is the press conference I wish Stepfanski had. The only Playoff win we've had in a long-long time and he wasn't even there to coach it. Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win. Maybe that's what Kevin's deal is...

    @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win.

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

  • @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win.

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    @orion said:

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    The difference? Let me see....

    Stafford isn't a scumbag staring down and indefinite suspension? How about that?

    WSS

  • @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win.

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    @orion said:

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    Jared Goff actually took the Rams to the Super Bowl, yet the Rams were astute to realize he was limited and to win the Super Bowl, they would need to upgrade the position. 

    And somehow Goff and his much bigger contract was able to be dealt away. Interesting. 

  • @orion said:

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    The difference? Let me see....

    Stafford isn't a scumbag staring down and indefinite suspension? How about that?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The difference? Let me see....

    You missed the point.  See Dutch's response.

  • @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield and the backups went into Pittsburgh and brought us home a win.

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    @orion said:

    Is that the game that Ben had over 500 yards passing?   And they turned the ball over 5 times or so?

    The article.....the Rams traded to upgrade their QB position.  The difference is, the team that they traded with actually wanted their QB whereas nobody wants ours.

    Are you thinking his passing yardage made his 4 INTs excusable?  How many INTs did Baker throw that day his team scored 48 points?

    If you look at the game summary, Cleveland had a lead of 48-29 before some of Ben's junk-time magic got them their final score with only 1:09 remaining.  That made the score look a little closer at 48-37; but putting cologne on Ben's stink didn't change the stench.

    In that game, the QB that had the opposing defense thinking "here comes Santa Claus" wasn't Baker.  

  • @lodilobo said:

    OBJ was our best receiver??....that's a joke! I saw him drop more easy passes than Braylon Edwards. I'm glad he's gone....overrated prima dona....

    Oh yeah.    He had a highlight reel of magnificent drops of the year.  He never lived up to his NYG career.  When they got him i thought that he was the  " missing link "  to the Super Bowl.....he was missing alright. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yeah.    He had a highlight reel of magnificent drops of the year.  He never lived up to his NYG career.  When they got him i thought that he was the  " missing link "  to the Super Bowl.....he was missing alright. 

    Oh the OBJ   "magnificent drops"   of the year   cd is still running.   Wow i didn't think that there were that many.

    Oh and I heard OBJ sold his 13,800 sq. ft. house in Cleveland and sold for the asking price of  $3.3M  I guess he didn't drop that one.  Bought by a guy with the initials of DW as a second home for his massage therapists when he is actually in Cleveland.   No really it is sold, OBJ will NOT be returning to Cleveland,  word is it's LA or LV.  That part is true. ✔️ 

    Yuck, yuck.    😆

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  • @westside-steve said:

    The difference? Let me see....

    You missed the point.  See Dutch's response.

    @orion said:

    You missed the point.  See Dutch's response.

    The point? I would think the point would be selling your house to buy a Lamborghini and sending your Subaru, that isn't even paid off, to the junkyard and then finding out that the Lamborghini can't be Smog Certified so you can't drive it. Anyway who knows Mayfield may never turn into the elite quarterback that those of us who like him hope him to be eventually. It's still a team sport. But Watson the Texans and Jimmy Haslam are still scumbags.

    WSS

  • Let's say that Watson is suspended for the year, isn't allowed in team facilities and can reapply for reinstatement next July. 

    Then we have to consider that Baker is going to be back for another season. I get that Baker and the FO would have to swallow their pride and get together and work this out... for several reasons. 

    I get that Baker would feel slighted and disrespected in going all in for Cleveland and repping the City like he did, playing injured the entire season and putting the team ahead of himself, only to be rewarded by the FO trading away it's future for a player that's never played for us and has a shady reputation. But...

    But... Baker needs to know that he was rewarded with a 5th year option that the team picked up for 20 Million dollars. That's not chump change, in comparison to Watsons MEGA deal, it's small, but this year- Watson is only getting 1 Mill. So Baker would be the guy the FO needs to hold it down until... but here's the 240 million dollar question;

    What do you do if Baker Mayfield returns to form here this year and balls out like he did in the past. What if he's got the Browns knocking on the door of the SuperBowl... or God willing he leads the Browns to the Superbowl and they actually win it. Then Pandora's box fully opens and we have quite the conundrum. 

    Do you let Baker just walk or... what would be the options then? 

  • "Return to form"? 

    As in 25 TD's, 9 INT's and an offense that places high value on early down runs, ball action and ball control? 

    Nothing.  Because then Baker has shown he is a capable, yet unspectacular starter with limits to his play.   Which is pretty much par the course.   At such time you then know, you'll compete having him on your team, but only to a certain point. 

  • "Return to form"? 

    As in 25 TD's, 9 INT's and an offense that places high value on early down runs, ball action and ball control? 

    Nothing.  Because then Baker has shown he is a capable, yet unspectacular starter with limits to his play.   Which is pretty much par the course.   At such time you then know, you'll compete having him on your team, but only to a certain point. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    "Return to form"? 

    As in 25 TD's, 9 INT's and an offense that places high value on early down runs, ball action and ball control? 

    Nothing.  Because then Baker has shown he is a capable, yet unspectacular starter with limits to his play.   Which is pretty much par the course.   At such time you then know, you'll compete having him on your team, but only to a certain point. 

    ahem. Baker never had the #3 deep threat wr in the NFL. Have a nice day anyways.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    "Return to form"? 

    As in 25 TD's, 9 INT's and an offense that places high value on early down runs, ball action and ball control? 

    Nothing.  Because then Baker has shown he is a capable, yet unspectacular starter with limits to his play.   Which is pretty much par the course.   At such time you then know, you'll compete having him on your team, but only to a certain point. 

    ahem. Baker never had the #3 deep threat wr in the NFL. Have a nice day anyways.

    @calfoxwc said:

    ahem. Baker never had the #3 deep threat wr in the NFL. Have a nice day anyways.

    Here we go again….never had a very good line in front him, one of the best possession WRs in the game or the best backfield in the game either.

    Just surround him with All Pros maybe he will play for the league minimum

  • Let's say that Watson is suspended for the year, isn't allowed in team facilities and can reapply for reinstatement next July. 

    Then we have to consider that Baker is going to be back for another season. I get that Baker and the FO would have to swallow their pride and get together and work this out... for several reasons. 

    I get that Baker would feel slighted and disrespected in going all in for Cleveland and repping the City like he did, playing injured the entire season and putting the team ahead of himself, only to be rewarded by the FO trading away it's future for a player that's never played for us and has a shady reputation. But...

    But... Baker needs to know that he was rewarded with a 5th year option that the team picked up for 20 Million dollars. That's not chump change, in comparison to Watsons MEGA deal, it's small, but this year- Watson is only getting 1 Mill. So Baker would be the guy the FO needs to hold it down until... but here's the 240 million dollar question;

    What do you do if Baker Mayfield returns to form here this year and balls out like he did in the past. What if he's got the Browns knocking on the door of the SuperBowl... or God willing he leads the Browns to the Superbowl and they actually win it. Then Pandora's box fully opens and we have quite the conundrum. 

    Do you let Baker just walk or... what would be the options then? 

    @poeticg said:

    Let's say that Watson is suspended for the year, isn't allowed in team facilities and can reapply for reinstatement next July. 

    Then we have to consider that Baker is going to be back for another season. I get that Baker and the FO would have to swallow their pride and get together and work this out... for several reasons. 

    I get that Baker would feel slighted and disrespected in going all in for Cleveland and repping the City like he did, playing injured the entire season and putting the team ahead of himself, only to be rewarded by the FO trading away it's future for a player that's never played for us and has a shady reputation. But...

    But... Baker needs to know that he was rewarded with a 5th year option that the team picked up for 20 Million dollars. That's not chump change, in comparison to Watsons MEGA deal, it's small, but this year- Watson is only getting 1 Mill. So Baker would be the guy the FO needs to hold it down until... but here's the 240 million dollar question;

    What do you do if Baker Mayfield returns to form here this year and balls out like he did in the past. What if he's got the Browns knocking on the door of the SuperBowl... or God willing he leads the Browns to the Superbowl and they actually win it. Then Pandora's box fully opens and we have quite the conundrum. 

    Do you let Baker just walk or... what would be the options then? 

    Assuming a level of maturity here that Baker doesn’t possess. 

  • @orion said:

    You missed the point.  See Dutch's response.

    The point? I would think the point would be selling your house to buy a Lamborghini and sending your Subaru, that isn't even paid off, to the junkyard and then finding out that the Lamborghini can't be Smog Certified so you can't drive it. Anyway who knows Mayfield may never turn into the elite quarterback that those of us who like him hope him to be eventually. It's still a team sport. But Watson the Texans and Jimmy Haslam are still scumbags.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The point? I would think the point would be selling your house to buy a Lamborghini and sending your Subaru, that isn't even paid off, to the junkyard and then finding out that the Lamborghini can't be Smog Certified so you can't drive it. Anyway who knows Mayfield may never turn into the elite quarterback that those of us who like him hope him to be eventually. It's still a team sport. But Watson the Texans and Jimmy Haslam are still scumbags.

    WSS

    Elaborate way to make a point.....BTW just curious do you play chess ?  That's kind of chess thinking,  sort of.

    I guess we will never know at least directly if Baker Mayfield will be that polished gem that we hoped he could/would be unless he takes some obscure team all the way.  

    I'm more interested in what happens to the BROWNS next.

    GO BROWNS ! 

    Now, what would be considered as a successful season 10-7 ?    10-6-1 ?    11-6  (64.7%)?  Other ?     😕

    ......revised, 12-5 (70.6%) ?  Impossible ?   Hmmmm.

  • https://redstate.com/levon/2022/07/01/daily-sports-roundup-day-1-of-nba-free-agency-signings-deshaun-watson-hearing-and-more-n587091

    NFL Roundup:

    Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson’s hearing is over after three days, there is no timetable for a ruling.

    Five players ranked by NFL.com as “scariest” quarterbacks: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, and Justin Herbert.

    **********************************************
    Let's see:
     
    Mahomes - star qb, drafted by his team. check
    Josh Allen - star qb, drafted by his team, check.
    Aaron Rodgers - star qb, drafted by his team, check.
    Lamar Jackson, star qb?, drafted by his team, check.
    Justin Herbert, star qb, drafted by his team, check.
     
    three first round draft picks for....
    dammit. what a garbage dump of a mess the browns are in now.