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  • @westside-steve said:

    Nope. Not as long as you guys promote psychotics and make excuses for antisocial behavior for votes and blame the ills of the nation on pieces of Steel.

    WSS

    "Pieces of steel".... Oh fuck off Steve. 

    Really fuck off for the whole thing. As if LGBTQ rights is to blame for a white kid writing a racist manifesto to shoot up a black store in Buffalo, for example. 

    Again, it matters more that these shootings, and gun violence in general, continue to happen. But your comments clearly show a lack of understanding, or willful ignorance, of who is performing most of these shootings. 

    Yes there are weirdo SJW Tumblr something gendered whatever's online. 

    There are also plenty of young white racist incel males living on 4chan, 8kun, whatever (and blow it out your ass if you want to comment on me mentioning 4chan) that run around yelling about trump

    It's just one of those groups that posts memes and comments you find yourself agreeing with more. 

    @mld-woody said:

    "Pieces of steel".... Oh fuck off Steve. 

    Really fuck off for the whole thing. As if LGBTQ rights is to blame for a white kid writing a racist manifesto to shoot up a black store in Buffalo, for example. 

    Again, it matters more that these shootings, and gun violence in general, continue to happen. But your comments clearly show a lack of understanding, or willful ignorance, of who is performing most of these shootings. 

    Yes there are weirdo SJW Tumblr something gendered whatever's online. 

    There are also plenty of young white racist incel males living on 4chan, 8kun, whatever (and blow it out your ass if you want to comment on me mentioning 4chan) that run around yelling about trump

    It's just one of those groups that posts memes and comments you find yourself agreeing with more. 

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  • Don't look now, but the shooter has video and pics of him at a trump rally, and another pic of him wrapped in a trump flag

    Again, it doesn't matter. What matters is the result and the shooting. An issue that only one developed country frequently deals with...

    But just keep huffing that American exceptionalism I guess.

    You know what they say. Loving your country means never acknowledging any faults within it or ever trying to improve it. 

    Hey now, it's not YOUR kids/grandkids/relatives getting murdered. So did it really even happen?

    @mld-woody said:

    Don't look now, but the shooter has video and pics of him at a trump rally, and another pic of him wrapped in a trump flag

    Again, it doesn't matter. What matters is the result and the shooting. An issue that only one developed country frequently deals with...

    But just keep huffing that American exceptionalism I guess.

    You know what they say. Loving your country means never acknowledging any faults within it or ever trying to improve it. 

    Hey now, it's not YOUR kids/grandkids/relatives getting murdered. So did it really even happen?

    @mld-woody said:

    That literally says "posted 4 minutes ago"...

    That would have been posted after the shooting and arrest....

    There are tons of fake social media accounts springing up to push false narratives. And it sure seems a certain segment of the population can't get enough.... 

  • @fairhooker11 said:

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    That literally says "posted 4 minutes ago"

    ...

    That would have been posted after the shooting and arrest....

    There are tons of fake social media accounts springing up to push false narratives. And it sure seems a certain segment of the population can't get enough.... 

    @mld-woody said:

    That literally says "posted 4 minutes ago"

    ...

    That would have been posted after the shooting and arrest....

    There are tons of fake social media accounts springing up to push false narratives. And it sure seems a certain segment of the population can't get enough.... 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Meaning that if it was my kids grandkids or relatives getting murdered I would support some completely ineffectual grandstanding gun laws to make Joe Biden look like a hero? And then scratch my head when they don't work? Anyway multicolored hair facial tattoos completely f****** insane sounds like your generation. Or your kids. By the way how many people were gunned down in the inner city over that weekend?

    WSS 

    Oh Jesus and here we go with the "well what about the inner city". Sure man, let's try to fix that too! (Though you and people like you would never even budge on admitting the additional underlying issues). But if we can make it harder to get guns,black or white, whatever, then great!

    And obviously I don't want anything that's ineffective. But the pro gun group would love that. Approve a few half ass measures, they obviously fail, and then that group can flail about how the only solution is more guns. As asinine as that is. 

    "My generation". Ok... Then my solution to it, one most of my generation, and most of the country in general, agrees with us actually doing fucking anything to address gun violence. How many fucking times do we have to go through this? 

    And say that as much as you want the kid has more than one photo floating around of him liking Trump stuff. Which, again, really doesn't matter, but when half of this board wants to rush in here and jerk each other off cuz he looks weird and must be a liberal... well they've clearly ignored a good number of mass shootings.... But duh, of course they have. 

    But yes, conservatives don't give two shits about anything that doesn't affect then directly. The only way they'll support gun reform is if they or a loved one become a victim of gun violence. How fucking tragic. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh Jesus and here we go with the "well what about the inner city". Sure man, let's try to fix that too! (Though you and people like you would never even budge on admitting the additional underlying issues). But if we can make it harder to get guns,black or white, whatever, then great!

    And obviously I don't want anything that's ineffective. But the pro gun group would love that. Approve a few half ass measures, they obviously fail, and then that group can flail about how the only solution is more guns. As asinine as that is. 

    "My generation". Ok... Then my solution to it, one most of my generation, and most of the country in general, agrees with us actually doing fucking anything to address gun violence. How many fucking times do we have to go through this? 

    And say that as much as you want the kid has more than one photo floating around of him liking Trump stuff. Which, again, really doesn't matter, but when half of this board wants to rush in here and jerk each other off cuz he looks weird and must be a liberal... well they've clearly ignored a good number of mass shootings.... But duh, of course they have. 

    But yes, conservatives don't give two shits about anything that doesn't affect then directly. The only way they'll support gun reform is if they or a loved one become a victim of gun violence. How fucking tragic. 

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Oh Jesus and here we go with the "well what about the inner city". Sure man, let's try to fix that too! (Though you and people like you would never even budge on admitting the additional underlying issues). But if we can make it harder to get guns,black or white, whatever, then great!

    And obviously I don't want anything that's ineffective. But the pro gun group would love that. Approve a few half ass measures, they obviously fail, and then that group can flail about how the only solution is more guns. As asinine as that is. 

    "My generation". Ok... Then my solution to it, one most of my generation, and most of the country in general, agrees with us actually doing fucking anything to address gun violence. How many fucking times do we have to go through this? 

    And say that as much as you want the kid has more than one photo floating around of him liking Trump stuff. Which, again, really doesn't matter, but when half of this board wants to rush in here and jerk each other off cuz he looks weird and must be a liberal... well they've clearly ignored a good number of mass shootings.... But duh, of course they have. 

    But yes, conservatives don't give two shits about anything that doesn't affect then directly. The only way they'll support gun reform is if they or a loved one become a victim of gun violence. How fucking tragic. 

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    That third paragraph shows you literally did not follow along at all. The answers to your questions were addressed multiple times. If you can't be bothered to read them then what's the point in me wasting time with a back and forth?

    As much as you're desperately trying to antagonize me the rest of that post to get a response (with insults, typical Steve's, etc), I'll leave you with this:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    That third paragraph shows you literally did not follow along at all. The answers to your questions were addressed multiple times. If you can't be bothered to read them then what's the point in me wasting time with a back and forth?

    As much as you're desperately trying to antagonize me the rest of that post to get a response (with insults, typical Steve's, etc), I'll leave you with this:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    @mld-woody said:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    Poor parenting.   Poor education system.  Horrible government officials.   Mixed cultures competing with each other.  Drugs.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    That third paragraph shows you literally did not follow along at all. The answers to your questions were addressed multiple times. If you can't be bothered to read them then what's the point in me wasting time with a back and forth?

    As much as you're desperately trying to antagonize me the rest of that post to get a response (with insults, typical Steve's, etc), I'll leave you with this:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    @mld-woody said:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    Biden signs bipartisan gun measure negotiated by Sen. John Cornyn after Uvalde shooting

    The new law contains modest provisions but is the most significant gun measure passed by Congress in nearly three decades.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/25/biden-gun-bill-uvalde/

    Did it work?

  • Extreme Risk law or "Red Flag" law in place. 

    The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person.

    The video also includes an image of a newspaper clipping about Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President John F. Kennedy, and another image of a victim shot with blood spraying from the body.

    Man aiming rifle at another person in music video

    Screenshot from Awake the Rapper's video "are you awake?" (Awake the Rapper/Vimeo)

    @vambo said:

    Extreme Risk law or "Red Flag" law in place. 

    The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person.

    The video also includes an image of a newspaper clipping about Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President John F. Kennedy, and another image of a victim shot with blood spraying from the body.

    Man aiming rifle at another person in music video

    Screenshot from Awake the Rapper's video "are you awake?" (Awake the Rapper/Vimeo)

    So why aren't the libs demanding that Rap be banned? ?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    That third paragraph shows you literally did not follow along at all. The answers to your questions were addressed multiple times. If you can't be bothered to read them then what's the point in me wasting time with a back and forth?

    As much as you're desperately trying to antagonize me the rest of that post to get a response (with insults, typical Steve's, etc), I'll leave you with this:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    @mld-woody said:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    They have background checks waiting periods and red flag laws?

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well let's see who's the guy that bitches the most about generation versus generation; let me check. Hey it's you!

    And the typical Woody well that's bad too when somebody mentions the real problem.

    And speaking of usual responses first you Screech that the kid has some facetious Trump photographs out there among his rap videos Etc and then Screech that it doesn't matter. Pick one. You think this guy is a trump supporter or not? There's also antifa s*** which would sound more likely.

    Finally although I don't consider myself that much of a conservative I certainly do not give two s****, not even one about things that don't affect me but more importantly can't be solved. Yes a tiny percentage of murders are mass murders. And a tiny percent of those are with scary looking guns. Your solution? Make the scary looking guns illegal. Will it make a change? Nope. Will it make you idiot liberals seem like big shots and you can dance around a maple smelling each other's farts for saving the world? That's the idea.

    But I'm fine with gun registration I'm fine with background checks I'm fine with tightening up gun show sales I'm fine with just about everyone of the completely ineffectual Solutions you idiots have proposed that are meant not to solve the problem but just to piss off the people you don't like. Example how many people have been killed in shootings that employ the use of a bump stock? But hey what a step forward in the societal evolution. They are now against the law. Meaning that mass murderers will hesitate to use something because it's illegal?

    And if you were as smart as you boast about being you could go back case by case and see that this rubbish wouldn't have even made a scratch in the problem.

    Yes Woodrow there are random lunatics and no you can't really predict them or stop them.

    WSS

    That third paragraph shows you literally did not follow along at all. The answers to your questions were addressed multiple times. If you can't be bothered to read them then what's the point in me wasting time with a back and forth?

    As much as you're desperately trying to antagonize me the rest of that post to get a response (with insults, typical Steve's, etc), I'll leave you with this:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"? Why has a portion of our country just decided these mass shootings are no different than natural disasters?

    @mld-woody said:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"?

    If you continue with this same thought process, you’ll eventually come to the conclusion that regardless of how many rounds a gun can hold, or if it has a bump stock or not….if a fucking lunatic gets his hands on a gun people will die.

  • Didn't I see him on January 6th?

    WSS

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Why are we the only developed country with this many "random lunatics"?

    If you continue with this same thought process, you’ll eventually come to the conclusion that regardless of how many rounds a gun can hold, or if it has a bump stock or not….if a fucking lunatic gets his hands on a gun people will die.

    @canton-dawg said:

    If you continue with this same thought process, you’ll eventually come to the conclusion that regardless of how many rounds a gun can hold, or if it has a bump stock or not….if a fucking lunatic gets his hands on a gun people will die.

    And what's your solution?.............More guns? 

  • N Neo

    @canton-dawg said:

    If you continue with this same thought process, you’ll eventually come to the conclusion that regardless of how many rounds a gun can hold, or if it has a bump stock or not….if a fucking lunatic gets his hands on a gun people will die.

    And what's your solution?.............More guns? 

    @neo said:

    And what's your solution?.............More guns? 

    No, more gun laws.

    Can’t you see how good they’re working?

  • @neo said:

    And what's your solution?.............More guns? 

    No, more gun laws.

    Can’t you see how good they’re working?

    @canton-dawg said:

    No, more gun laws.

    Can’t you see how good they’re working?

    So what's your solution? We can't get every nut job that slips through the cracks. All I hear  from both sides is how we need stricter gun laws, and the other side says the gun laws are stupid and violate the 2nd amendment. Nobody ever has anything constructive to say just bickering. So again, what can be done? 

  • @neo said:

    And what's your solution?.............More guns? 

    No, more gun laws.

    Can’t you see how good they’re working?

    @canton-dawg said:

    No, more gun laws.

    Can’t you see how good they’re working?

    ^ and this is exactly the goal of the right and the gun lobby...

    The gun laws we have now are weak and easy to get around. The past new "reform" we put through was nothing. Chicago has "the strictest gun laws in the country" (not true) is the right's big battle cry, when you can just easily drive somewhere else and get what you want. 

    Having ineffective gun laws allowed those that are pro gun to point at them and say "see! they don't work! no point in trying any more!"

    It's a damn obvious cycle and it's one they either knowingly mislead on or their supporters are too stupid to see the poor logic

  • And again, no good answers to why this isn't an issue in other countries. Those countries have rap, video games, social media, youth, etc. This is just a problem for us. 

    But admitting that would mean not jerking yourself off over American exceptionalism so we'll never get anywhere. More important for some people to be "real American patriots" than to try and reduce the amount their fellow Americans get killed by guns 

    Fucking. Pathetic.

  • And again, no good answers to why this isn't an issue in other countries. Those countries have rap, video games, social media, youth, etc. This is just a problem for us. 

    But admitting that would mean not jerking yourself off over American exceptionalism so we'll never get anywhere. More important for some people to be "real American patriots" than to try and reduce the amount their fellow Americans get killed by guns 

    Fucking. Pathetic.

    @mld-woody said:

    And again, no good answers to why this isn't an issue in other countries. Those countries have rap, video games, social media, youth, etc. This is just a problem for us. 

    But admitting that would mean not jerking yourself off over American exceptionalism so we'll never get anywhere. More important for some people to be "real American patriots" than to try and reduce the amount their fellow Americans get killed by guns 

    Fucking. Pathetic.

    Just leave bird girl.

    Real America hates your deceit and disrespect.