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  • It's not employer/employee...

    Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless. 

    @poeticg said:

    It's not employer/employee...

    Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless. 

    I don't know?  I was just a young kid when Otto played.  Tell me how it was since you know.

  • I'll give Baker 70 more career starts, roughly four and a half full seasons worth of starts.  

  • I'd like to thank baker for digging us out of the basement. 

    He was good enough to get us to somewhat relevant and that's all. 

    Now it's time more on turning the page to a chapter of better than just relevant. 

  • I think this season will define how good/bad Baker really is.

    If he has a good season (barring injury), I can see a contract being offered by Carolina or other team(s).

    He could start another 4 or 5 years, which could be 68-85 games.

    If he has a mediocre season, I can see him being relegated to a backup position somewhere.

  • I'd say roughly 3 seasons, so 50 more starts. 

  • 5 season worth of starts for 3 teams.  90 games.

  • Baker will be just like Drew Breezy. He will win at least 3 Superbowls. It won't be for us though... maybe his third will be, eh; I can dream. 

    @poeticg said:

    Baker will be just like Drew Breezy. He will win at least 3 Superbowls. It won't be for us though... maybe his third will be, eh; I can dream. 

    Dream on.  He may go to 3 super bowls (**buy a nice loge ticket) he's a wealthy relatively young man.  Or maybe he'll just blow his money on pitiful stylish clothes as he does now.

    Baker is not a franchise quarterback  or  "the answer"  or. some other team savior  he's just a good quarterback probably near the peak of his career. I do not think that he will see 40 as a quarterback unless it's a clipboard holding highly paid backup calling plays into his young 20-something starting quarterback . 

    Win 3 super bowls dream on.  He's more the "Bahamas Baker" type yeah that's him and his "Bahamas Babe" wife. At 33 years old and getting beat up on Sundays in the fall?  Nah Bahamas Baker is having a cool one with Korsou Dawg on the beach.....man.   😆

  • From CBS Sports ...... July 7, 2022.....

    Happy Thursday, everyone! Hope you're well.     Let's get right to it.

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    Good morning to everyone but especially to...

    BAKER MAYFIELD AND THE CAROLINA PANTHERS

    The quarterback carousel has taken another big spin in what's been a wild NFL offseason: Baker Mayfield is headed to the Panthers. Here are the details:

    • The Panthers will send theBrowns a conditional fifth-round pick (could turn into a fourth-round pick based on Mayfield's playing time).
    • Cleveland will pay $10.5 million of Mayfield's $18.85-million salary this season; Carolina will pick up $4.85 million, and Mayfield converted the rest to incentives, which helped facilitate the trade.
    • Should Mayfield be named starter, his first game as a Panther will be against ... the Browns in Week 1.

    Mayfield requested a trade way back in mid-March as the Browns pursued (and eventually acquired)Deshaun Watson. This is a huge win for Mayfield. Not only was his trade request finally granted, but he's going to a team where he should start immediately.

    • His primary competition isSam Darnold, who was one of the worst quarterbacks by basically every metric last year. Third-round rookieMatt Corral and former XFL standout PJ Walker are also on the roster.
    • Since Matt Rhule took over as head coach in 2020, the Panthers have thrown the fewest touchdowns and the most interceptions.

    Last year, Mayfield struggled while playing through a significant shoulder injury. But one year prior, he threw 26 touchdowns to just eight interceptions and led Cleveland to the playoffs for the first time since 2002. Now, he joins a Panthers team that featuresChristian McCaffrey,DJ Moore and an improved offensive line. All told, the Panthers earn a strong "A-" grade from our NFL expert Cody Benjamin:.......

  • Actually we heard it first from Woody. Just saying..

    WSS

  • Actually we heard it first from Woody. Just saying..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Actually we heard it first from Woody. Just saying..

    WSS

    This was for hoorta telling us about Heavy.com and their rumor mill stuff.  They did put this up on July 4.

    I think Woody broke it here on July 6.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    Actually we heard it first from Woody. Just saying..

    WSS

    This was for hoorta telling us about Heavy.com and their rumor mill stuff.  They did put this up on July 4.

    I think Woody broke it here on July 6.  

    @mjp28 said:

    This was for hoorta telling us about Heavy.com and their rumor mill stuff.  They did put this up on July 4.

    I think Woody broke it here on July 6.  

    I was looking at 18 hours ago versus 22 or something hours ago.

    WSS

  • From CBS Sports......... continued. 

    • Benjamin:"Worst-case scenario, Mayfield flops and proves no better than his immediate surroundings, and the Panthers let him walk in 2023, proceeding with the QB reset (and potential regime reset) they were destined for anyway. Best-case scenario, Baker brings some much-needed juice to their QB room, actually capitalizes on some of the talent around him, and the Panthers get a head start on locking up a potential long-term starter without having to spend excess draft capital to start over."

    Honorable mentions

    Previewing tonight's NHL Draft ?...... if you're interested......continued on CBS Sports  7/7/22.

  • @vagitron said:

    The steelers did with mitch trubisky. Why do you think the dude is/was so mad? 

    Are you serious? 

    I mean, you are coming up with some doozy takes today. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Are you serious? 

    I mean, you are coming up with some doozy takes today. 

    I am serious. Trubisky said himself the org let him know. Baker is/was pissed for a reason. Period. 

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  • @dutch-oven said:

    Are you serious? 

    I mean, you are coming up with some doozy takes today. 

    I am serious. Trubisky said himself the org let him know. Baker is/was pissed for a reason. Period. 

    @vagitron said:

    I am serious. Trubisky said himself the org let him know. Baker is/was pissed for a reason. Period. 

    What does it matter?  Bakers performance opened the door for the possibility that the organization would move on.  Did he feel entitled to have his spot back?  Would he felt better if we said we are looking elsewhere right before Watson was called?  What difference would that make- it appears he couldn’t call his shot to any team anyway. 

    Baker certainly didn’t do us any favors in our first matchup with the Steelers.  Would the Steelers accept that kind of performance from one of their own? 

    Bakers requests and demands appear to be a misguided temper tantrum 

  • We played Baker injured a huge part of last year. You can definitely make the argument we shouldn't have given up so soon on our only successful QB in decades. But they made the move and it is what it is. 

  • It's not employer/employee...

    Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless. 

    @poeticg said:

    It's not employer/employee...

    Was Otto Graham and Paul Brown like that? You don't get the extra you need in this league with the Pilot Flying J cashier employee handbook. This is not a numbers game, it's a people's game and people matter. They are not robots and BM should have shown enough to warrant a long term contract for his sacrifice for the team. Watson will sit if he has a tummy ache... it's a given, he gets paid regardless. 

    Po, don't be silly.   Automatic Otto was winning Championships left and right for the Browns.. You want a statue for Baker outside of First Energy because he won exactly ONE playoff game for the Browns (with they help of FIVE turnovers from the Steelers- including one on the first scrimmage play)?  😁  😁  😁  

    Baker is- hate to tell you- on the same career track as one of your other faves... Saquon Barkley.  Baker was going to be on a one year "show us" contract after 2021. And after the season the Browns Front Office thought he "showed us" that he wasn't the long term answer. Tia posted a ton of screen shots "showing" exactly why. If a dedicated Browns fan can see that, you can bet the ranch every Defensive Coordinator in the NFL had seen it- and 50 times more of Baker's shortcomings.  

    I don't get sentimental about players anymore...  I have a Tim Couch jersey gathering dust in my basement as to the reason why.  

  • Browns 59 Starts

    Carolina 19 Starts

    2 Future NFL Teams 14 Starts

    92 Total Career Starts