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  • I think he'll go on to have a solid career once he gets settled... With our luck... Watson will magically turn to crap... It would be... So Cleveland... LOL...

    @nickers said:

    I think he'll go on to have a solid career once he gets settled... With our luck... Watson will magically turn to crap... It would be... So Cleveland... LOL...

  • Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    Yeah, I don't get that either.?

  •  Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    @nickers said:

     Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    JFF looking better every day.?

  • @westside-steve said:

    As far as the obj stefanski Mayfield Devil's Triangle: as much as I love Mayfield I would absolutely cringe whenever he overthrew or under through a receiver. If the ball bounced off someone's hands then I blame them. But unless Mayfield is calling his own plays why then would he be responsible for obj being over on the other side of the field and open? I would blame whoever called that play. On the other hand if the play is meant to go to obj and Baker missed him then I would blame mayfield. Doesn't that make sense?

    But no doubt any coach any leader is going to be pissed off if somebody calls him out in front of the rest of the team. And that can often bring repercussions to the guy calling him out. I don't call management out at the bars I play at to ownership because that would probably come back to bite me in the ass.

    WSS

    Wait am I reading this correctly…the play caller is responsible for a WR being on the other side of the field  and being open.  And this should reflect negatively on the play caller if the QB doesn’t see this? Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Coaches don’t call a play telling the QB to hit the curl route and ignore the backside skinny post. 

    Well, to a degree they do.  The play could be designed for the ball to go to the other side of the field.  By the time your hot reads get you all the way to the other side of the field the pocket is breaking down.  OBJ's father tweeted his video,  but I was bummed at how Baker would ignore Njoku crossing over the middle, OPEN, and would instead turn to someone deeper downfield and try to squeeze it in there...to no avail.  

  • Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

  • @fy56 said:

    Cleveland Browns lore can be made into a novel. 

    It feels as though not a year post 1999 has gone by without this franchise producing some sort of drama.

    And if Baker lights it up in Carolina it will be par for the course.

    i hope he does  - starting w/ the opener

    @fairhooker11 said:

    i hope he does  - starting w/ the opener

    Me too. If horny boy is suspended for the season and the Browns get Jimmy Garoppolo I could root for a loss to the Panthers and then go 16 and 1.

    Beyond that the fucks I give about the Panthers are in short supply.

    Maybe when the dust clears we can trade Watson to Miami next season.

    ???

    WSS

  • @nickers said:

     Mature says the guy with 66 possible sexual encounters... LOL... You can't make this stuff up... Or can you...

    JFF looking better every day.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    JFF looking better every day.?

    Oh God I'd never, ever thought hear that again. 

    "With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select........ "   

    OK a trip down memory lane,  do you remember..... oh brother.   Maybe he was the best available at #22 but who else was there, trade up or just trade for ......memories are always 20/20.  

    • 2014 First Round.   😮
      Misc   Approx Val   Passing Rushing Receiving        
    Rnd Pick Tm Player Pos Age To AP1 PB St wAV DrAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Solo Int Sk College/Univ  
    1 1 HOU Jadeveon Clowney DE 21 2021 0 3 7 51 39 97 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 210 1 41.0 South Carolina College Stats
    1 2 STL Greg Robinson T 21 2019 0 0 5 24 13 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Auburn College Stats
    1 3 JAX Blake Bortles QB 22 2019 0 0 5 44 44 78 1562 2634 17649 103 75 283 1766 8 1 20 1       Central Florida College Stats
    1 4 BUF Sammy Watkins WR 21 2021 0 0 6 42 21 99 0 1 0 0 1 11 76 0 348 5059 34       Clemson College Stats
    1 5 OAK Khalil Mack LB 23 2021 3 6 7 82 42 117 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 352 3 76.5 Buffalo College Stats
    1 6 ATL Jake Matthews T 22 2021 0 1 8 60 60 128 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Texas A&M College Stats
    1 7 TAM Mike Evans WR 21 2021 0 4 8 62 62 122 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 0 606 9301 75 1     Texas A&M College Stats
    1 8 CLE Justin Gilbert DB 22 2016 0 0 0 4 3 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 1   Oklahoma St. College Stats
    1 9 MIN Anthony Barr LB 22 2021 0 4 6 52 52 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 335 5 17.5 UCLA College Stats
    1 10 DET Eric Ebron TE 21 2021 0 1 4 29 15 106 0 1 0 0 0 5 -6 3 351 3837 33       North Carolina College Stats
    1 11 TEN Taylor Lewan T 23 2021 0 3 7 47 47 103 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 10 1       Michigan College Stats
    1 12 NYG Odell Beckham Jr. WR 21 2021 0 3 6 51 41 96 4 6 144 2 0 23 170 1 531 7367 56 3     LSU College Stats
    1 13 STL Aaron Donald DT 23 2021 7 8 8 110 110 127 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 285   98.0 Pittsburgh College Stats
    1 14 CHI Kyle Fuller DB 22 2021 1 2 5 48 45 112 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 368 19   Virginia Tech College Stats
    1 15 PIT Ryan Shazier LB 22 2017 0 2 3 27 27 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 202 7 7.0 Ohio St. College Stats
    1 16 DAL Zack Martin G 23 2021 5 7 8 84 84 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Notre Dame College Stats
    1 17 BAL C.J. Mosley LB 22 2021 0 4 6 65 59 95 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 494 10 10.5 Alabama College Stats
    1 18 NYJ Calvin Pryor DB 22 2017 0 0 3 13 13 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 132 2 0.5 Louisville College Stats
    1 19 MIA Ja'Wuan James T 22 2019 0 0 4 27 26 65 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0       Tennessee College Stats
    1 20 NOR Brandin Cooks WR 20 2021 0 0 8 63 21 119 0 0 0 0 0 48 302 2 573 7917 46       Oregon St. College Stats
    1 21 GNB Ha Ha Clinton-Dix DB 21 2021 0 1 6 34 24 98 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 417 16 5.5 Alabama College Stats
    1 22 CLE Johnny Manziel QB 21 2015 0 0 0 4 4 14 147 258 1675 7 7 46 259 1 0 0 0       Texas A&M College Stats
    1 23 KAN Dee Ford LB 23 2021 0 1 2 23 21 85 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 117   40.0 Auburn College Stats
    1 24 CIN Darqueze Dennard DB 22 2021 0 0 0 13 12 87 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 230 4 3.0 Michigan St. College Stats
    1 25 SDG Jason Verrett DB 23 2021 0 1 2 17 13 40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 125 7   TCU College Stats
    1 26 PHI Marcus Smith LB 22 2018 0 0 0 4 3 53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 25   6.5 Louisville College Stats
    1 27 ARI Deone Bucannon DB 22 2020 0 0 4 32 29 84 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 329 2 7.0 Washington St. College Stats
    1 28 CAR Kelvin Benjamin WR 23 2018 0 0 4 22 18 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 209 3021 20       Florida St. College Stats
    1 29 NWE Dominique Easley DT 22 2018 0 0 0 7 4 41 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 44 1 6.5 Florida College Stats
    1 30 SFO Jimmie Ward DB 23 2021 0 0 5 24 24 94 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 303 4 3.0 Northern Illinois College Stats
    1 31 DEN Bradley Roby DB 22 2021 0 0 3 22 15 113 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 298 11 5.0 Ohio St. College Stats
    1 32 MIN

    Ted Bridgewater 

    QB 21 2021 0 1 4 47 22 73 1323 1988 14437 71 43 216 819 11 0 0 0       Louisville Colleg
  • Just think "what if"  and another quarterback was picked......all quarterback stories for years might have been drastically different. 

    Even up to 2022..  No Mayfield picked, no BW stories,  different drafts ????????

    1. The 2014 Draft all quarterbacks drafted Blake Bortles was first then WOW, what if.......right up to today !  Look at numbers 3, 4, 5.   Scouting or just luck ?   😮 😆 😳

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  • @westside-steve said:

    Neither one was my dream scenario but I'd have preferred Seattle. Carolina is garbage.

    WSS 

    Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary.    They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy.    They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets.

    They play in a tough division.  "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Panthers have a good front 7 and secondary.    They also have a good RB room provided Run CMC comes back healthy.    They invested resources into their oline this off season and their WR room - Higgins, DJ Moore and Robby Anderson are all good targets.

    They play in a tough division.  "Garbage" is hardly the word I would use.

    I agree with you.  I think it's a very good opportunity for him.  There's some playmakers in that offense; and they drafted the Offensive Tackle they wanted at #6 overall.  

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Mayfield is with Carolina now.  We play them first regular season game.  And some so called 'Browns fans' are hoping he beats us.

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

    @fy56 said:

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Physically tough…mentally weak

    DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record.  2020 Texans redefined train wreck and stupid roster mgmt outside of DW's single-minded focus. [That Texans self-dismantle does have to be one of the top 15 wastes of a good roster in NFL history.]

    The only time "focused" is in the same sentence as Baker is when it's right after the word "Not."

    @unsympathetic said:

    DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record.

    And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

  • @fy56 said:

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

    Yes.  The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history    -and-   he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever.

    And we don't know exactly when.   He's getting  "fat and happy "   as a BROWN  in fact he can before too long retire as a   "fat and happy "  BROWN. 

    It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone.

    The BROWNS  may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn  thing about it. 

    Scary.

  • @fy56 said:

    Think of it as wanting to teach the one you love a lesson for being naughty.

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

    Me too but I wasn't talking about Baker.

     "The one you love" was meant to be the Browns. Losing to Carolina is what fans perceive as teaching the organization a lesson at the expense of the team they love... for what they perceive was a major fuck up.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record.

    And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

    @canton-dawg said:

    And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

    That scares the football  ?  size crap out of me.

    An emotional psyco soon to be the Cleveland Browns starting quarterback who before too many years can just fade away.   He has NO incentive to do anything. 

    Maybe his character as a football player and person will carry him on to victory..................we hope.           😕

    GO BROWNS  !      

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Nah.  He's not a Brown I hope we beat them, and bad.

    Yes.  The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history    -and-   he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever.

    And we don't know exactly when.   He's getting  "fat and happy "   as a BROWN  in fact he can before too long retire as a   "fat and happy "  BROWN. 

    It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone.

    The BROWNS  may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn  thing about it. 

    Scary.

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes.  The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history    -and-   he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever.

    And we don't know exactly when.   He's getting  "fat and happy "   as a BROWN  in fact he can before too long retire as a   "fat and happy "  BROWN. 

    It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone.

    The BROWNS  may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn  thing about it. 

    Scary.

    That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!!

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yes.  The richest Cleveland BROWNS' player in the club history    -and-   he hasn't taken a single GAMEDAY snap with them ever.

    And we don't know exactly when.   He's getting  "fat and happy "   as a BROWN  in fact he can before too long retire as a   "fat and happy "  BROWN. 

    It's a terrible incentive for a rookie or oldie to become extremely wealthy without taking a snap......they can just mentally retire, soon to be followed by physically be gone.

    The BROWNS  may be in a very bad situation and can't do a d*mn  thing about it. 

    Scary.

    That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!!

    @fy56 said:

    That sounds like a response that shoulda went to me rather than DieHard!!

    May it be applied to all of us when it comes to.  "going for bust"   in picking and investing a quarterback and the Cleveland Browns future.

    Big gamble and hopefully good results......we'll find out pretty soon.    Suspension  ?  How long ?  W/L on the field ?

    It's going to get quite interesting. 

  • I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry. 

  • I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry. 

    @d-bone said:

    I'm so glad Baker's gone. I do wish we had a young Peyton Manning as his replacement, on a standard NFL contract, but I used up my 3rd wish getting my daughter home from Australia for a 6 week visit.... sorry. 

    It would have been an interesting offseason if the Browns would have traded for Russell Wilson instead of Deshaun Watson. 

    \

  • @unsympathetic said:

    DW is so mentally weak that he had a NFL MVP season on a team with a losing record.

    And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

    @canton-dawg said:

    And he sat out the 2021 season because he was so mentally and emotionally mature?

    He sat out the entire 2021 season for the same exact reason Baker would have sat out this season with the Browns. 

    He had no interest playing for the team he was contracted to play for.