We're Doomed

[Fan Of STEEL 1]

@jadbf said:

Ok let's go through this then

Who did we lose in the off season from the same defense that helped this team win 4 games last season? Andre Davis? He makes that big of a difference?

next do you know any of the players we picked up? any names at all?

next do you believe Mangini can be a better coach than Crennel?

Is our schedule easier or harder than last year?

if you answer all those questions honestly. I am not sure how you can be certain we won't win more games than last year.

Again i am not one of those fans who is predicting 12 wins and the playoffs. I think 6-8 is more likely. and 9 at the most.

I know the browns team very well.

I don't even understand what you are trying to imply about losing Davis. Is that supposed to make a bad defense better?

Those guys you picked up will take a year or two be be productive. Rob Ryan better do something better than I saw in the preseason. He better do something better than he did in Oakland for the past three years too. His run defense there was horrible. Just like what I saw this preseason. You guys are still trying to run a 3-4 but it will be interesting to see what Ryan does with the 4-6 defense.

Shaun Rogers and your inside linebacker D'Qwell Jackson are big names but will they get it done? Hard to say after Rogers sat out the entire preseason. It takes time to get up to game speed.

LB Eric Barton, Kenyon Coleman, S Abram Elam, LB David Bowens, CB Rod Hood, CB Corey Ivy? That will be a work in progress. Hank Poteat? LOL What player is going to make that big a difference? I did not see it at all this preseason and already have said I feel sorry for you guys because your offense might actually be ok.

Mangini better than Romeo? Well duh! It does not take much to be better than him. Mangini has his upside and from what players say, his downside as a coach. Time will tell but there is no way to look at him being there but a major improvement.

So maybe you will win more games than last year. I just did not see an improved defense from last year. If what you showed was really the defense minus Rogers, I think you will be lucky to win more than 4 games. I just don't think your offense can make up for the defensive weakness on the run.

[Fan Of STEEL 1]

I agree about your offense being better but you don't exactly have an easy schedule. And if the talent is better on defense than last season, I did not see it so far.

vs MINNESOTA VIKINGS

@ Denver Broncos

@ Baltimore Ravens

vs CINCINNATI BENGALS

@ Buffalo Bills

@ Pittsburgh Steelers

vs GREEN BAY PACKERS

@ Chicago Bears

vs BALTIMORE RAVENS

@ Detroit Lions

@ Cincinnati Bengals

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS

vs PITTSBURGH STEELERS

@ Kansas City Chiefs

vs OAKLAND RAIDERS

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

You could win the Denver game, the Bills game maybe, the lions, the raiders.

I think the rest are losses with the possibility of you beating the ravens or the bungles once.

What games do you think you win?

[Fan Of STEEL 1]

Any given sunday. Very true.

Two suggestions.

1. You guys should ban Vinny Chase. He does not even talk football.

2. Turn on your tv. NFL network is showing "AMERICAS TEAM" The Pittsburgh STEELERS. It's on in about an hour. I know you guys love us.

[Irisheyez]

@manginatime said:

As a long time Jets fan, I would like to warn you of the ultra conservative, non-creative, boring football I was forced to watch for the past few seasons.

And what's going to bug you the MOST is when there's a bad play for the Browns, and all Mangina does is stare off into space and chew gum.

the guy has NO EMOTION

I bet you werent whining like that when the Jets were on a roll before favre put it in the clunker

[daddybull1]

Mangini's football knowledge separates him from RAC????????????

Romeo is one of the most respected football minds in the NFL... He failed at the head coaching position but so did LeBeau when he was in Cincy but the last time I checked LeBeau went on to win 2 super bowls for 2 different head coaches...

To accuse Romeo of having poor football knowledge is idiotic to say the least.......

Peace

T.Dawg

[Earl34]

@manginatime said:

As a long time Jets fan, I would like to warn you of the ultra conservative, non-creative, boring football I was forced to watch for the past few seasons.

And what's going to bug you the MOST is when there's a bad play for the Browns, and all Mangina does is stare off into space and chew gum.

the guy has NO EMOTION

Gee, sounded to me like he had a ton of emotion when I was in his locker-room. He's a calm sideline coach. His philosophy is that calm minds make calm decisions. Your "unimaginative" play calling comes from the fact that they had to take out half of the presnap stuff for Hayseed Favre last year.

When Favre threw the pick in Oakland with under two minutes? No way the Jets were getting the ball back. Mangini managed his time and his defense to get the ball back for a final drive to tie and send it to OT.

Against Belicheat in prime time....he forced Belicheat to burn two first half time outs by OUTCOACHING him and that wound up being a factor.

You see it differently and that's your prerogative. Go enjoy Rex and move ON dude.....

[Kosar_For_President]

@lumbergh said:

on the bright side, you can always say that Quinnie only had 2 days of practice like you say for the Bronc's game.

You're still here?

[Fan Of STEEL 1]

@daddybull1 said:

Mangini's football knowledge separates him from RAC????????????

Romeo is one of the most respected football minds in the NFL... He failed at the head coaching position but so did LeBeau when he was in Cincy but the last time I checked LeBeau went on to win 2 super bowls for 2 different head coaches...

To accuse Romeo of having poor football knowledge is idiotic to say the least.......

Peace

T.Dawg

Maybe I missed where someone said that Romeo did not have any football knowledge. He just never seemed to apply it as the coach for Cleveland. Flipping a coin? Come on.

[choco]

most undisciplined coach ive ever seen....he was more interested in being friends with his players rather than a coach.

[Bob806]

We aren't doomed in game #1....Browns 27 Vikes 21, upset of the week.

[allaneddie]

My opinion:

vs MINNESOTA VIKINGS: loss

@ Denver Broncos win

@ Baltimore Ravens loss

vs CINCINNATI BENGALS win

@ Buffalo Bills win

@ Pittsburgh Steelers loss

vs GREEN BAY PACKERS loss

@ Chicago Bears loss

vs BALTIMORE RAVENS loss

@ Detroit Lions win

@ Cincinnati Bengals loss

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS loss

vs PITTSBURGH STEELERS loss

@ Kansas City Chiefs win

vs OAKLAND RAIDERS win

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS loss

=6W and 10L