The Ballad of Nick Harris

ballpeen

Nice post Rif....good info.

I might not be as high on him as you, but i don't worry about it . He should be fine, and if not, as you mentioned we have a couple of guys behind him that should be able to push him in camp. If Harris ends up the starter, he will have earned it.

Riffer X

@ballpeen said:

Nice post Rif....good info.

I might not be as high on him as you, but i don't worry about it . He should be fine, and if not, as you mentioned we have a couple of guys behind him that should be able to push him in camp. If Harris ends up the starter, he will have earned it.

Thanks Russ. FYI, I am heading to the Miami game this year in case you happen to do some road games. We are making a weekend of it in South Beach.

Also, sitting in Row D right behind the Browns bench for the Jax preseason game and will be there tailgating.

ballpeen

@riffer-x said:

Thanks Russ. FYI, I am heading to the Miami game this year in case you happen to do some road games. We are making a weekend of it in South Beach.

Also, sitting in Row D right behind the Browns bench for the Jax preseason game and will be there tailgating.

I appreciate the thought, but if I do anything it would be the Falcons game since it is 100 miles south of where I live in Tennessee. One of the downsides of having season tickets and living nearly 600 miles away from Cleveland is every game is an away game for me, so I miss not catching a game or two that are "away". Between ticket costs, 3 nights lodging per game, gas, meals etc, I tap the budget about as far as I am willing to take it. I am getting older, so the game aside, the trips are starting to become more of a grind than over past years. For the 1st time I am trying to sell off 3 games. The Steelers, Bengals, and Saints. I figure I can watch the Steelers and Bengals games at home on TV since they are night games, which sounds pretty good to me.

It is what it is.

Riffer X

@ballpeen said:

I appreciate the thought, but if I do anything it would be the Falcons game since it is 100 miles south of where I live in Tennessee. One of the downsides of having season tickets and living nearly 600 miles away from Cleveland is every game is an away game for me, so I miss not catching a game or two that are "away". Between ticket costs, 3 nights lodging per game, gas, meals etc, I tap the budget about as far as I am willing to take it. I am getting older, so the game aside, the trips are starting to become more of a grind than over past years. For the 1st time I am trying to sell off 3 games. The Steelers, Bengals, and Saints. I figure I can watch the Steelers and Bengals games at home on TV since they are night games, which sounds pretty good to me.

It is what it is.

I give you mad credit for having season tickets this long and travelling that far. I think you are making the right call to dial it back a bit, as sometimes watching on TV ain't all that bad. Now that I'm in FL, I generally go to one or two games a year down here depending on who we are playing between Miami, Jax and Tampa. Even that is a big deal and costly expense, plus I'm the type that likes to soak the whole football weekend from home between the Buckeyes and all my DFS and FF stuff. Very happy that another season is almost upon us and let's hope it's drama and Covid free.

Westside Steve

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/8/13/23304318/nick-harris-season-is-done-is-it-time-to-make-the-call-to-j-c-tretter

This really sucks. Wills hasn't lived up to his draft position so we'd better hope that Conklin stays healthy.

WSS

Flugel

@westside-steve said:

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/8/13/23304318/nick-harris-season-is-done-is-it-time-to-make-the-call-to-j-c-tretter

This really sucks. Wills hasn't lived up to his draft position so we'd better hope that Conklin stays healthy.

WSS

Good point Steve! Speaking of Wills, it didn't look like he brought the passion to play Friday. Left Tackle is a VERY important position that needs more urgency from whoever is rewarded with the opportunity to play it. If Watson gets to play this year after a long layoff, we're going to need a lot better effort protecting the QB's blind side.

Unsympathetic

IMHO the best conclusion from Pocic PFF stats is that Pocic isn't even average at passpro.. never was [peak 2019] and has been trending downhill for 2 yrs already. That's why in my ideal OL he's best as a backup. "We know who he is"

i'd give Deaton some run with the 1's to see how he does at least at camp.. or if he'll be ready by midseason or something with Pocic starting until then even with his limited athleticism.. Don't ignore the late-rounders, someone named Teller was a 6th. If combine tests were everything.. Dawson Deaton RAS. Deaton's final season was a PFF 70.1 so this isn't implausible.. Riffer, can you share any of Deaton's PFF NFL draft profile?

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@unsympathetic said:

IMHO the best conclusion from Pocic PFF stats is that Pocic isn't even average at passpro.. never was [peak 2019] and has been trending downhill for 2 yrs already. That's why in my ideal OL he's best as a backup. "We know who he is"

i'd give Deaton some run with the 1's to see how he does at least at camp.. or if he'll be ready by midseason or something with Pocic starting until then even with his limited athleticism.. Don't ignore the late-rounders, someone named Teller was a 6th. If combine tests were everything.. Dawson Deaton RAS. Deaton's final season was a PFF 70.1 so this isn't implausible.. Riffer, can you share any of Deaton's PFF NFL draft profile?

Any interest in seeing if Tretter would be interested in signing a one year deal?

mjp28

These guaranteed signing bonuses always kill me, guys can sometimes make as much money as a "working stiff" makes in a decade or occasionally a lifetime....whether they play or not or even get injured and wash out.

What a way for a 20-something to start a working career. How contracts got so far down the road on " guaranteed signing bonuses " and other bonuses like "workout bonuses " and others are to me anyway.....amazing ?

Guaranteed 5 or 6 or more figure bonuses for showing up at camp at a certain weight and lifting weights and make $××,××× or $×××,××× before taking a snap. The wonderful world ? of NFL football. Oh well.....

mjp28

@flugel said:

Good point Steve! Speaking of Wills, it didn't look like he brought the passion to play Friday. Left Tackle is a VERY important position that needs more urgency from whoever is rewarded with the opportunity to play it. If Watson gets to play this year after a long layoff, we're going to need a lot better effort protecting the QB's blind side.

Reminds me of the classic movie "Major League " where the older player wasn't going to hurt himself playing "with/ for a bunch of stiffs" you know take any unnecessary hits if possible. What a way to earn a guaranteed check.....but it happens.

jcam222

If the Browns are smart they are burning Tretters line up right now before TB snaps him up. Having the NFLPA prez was a burden at one time, could be a useful side effect now too.

tiamat63

I'd be curious to see how Pocic does with a pair of pro-bowl guards next to him. I won't pretend the Hawks Oline was/is individually or collectively talented.

In that same mindset, I second Dawson getting some reps with the 1's.

Canton Dawg

@mjp28 said:

Reminds me of the classic movie "Major League " where the older player wasn't going to hurt himself playing "with/ for a bunch of stiffs" you know take any unnecessary hits if possible. What a way to earn a guaranteed check.....but it happens.

This brings to mind Tom Brady, who’s currently taking a 2 week sabbatical from the preseason.

I don’t think HC Todd Bowles gives a rats ass though.

nickers

Wouldn't mind getting Tretter back at the right price... But these other kids look interesting... May as well see what they got....

gumby73

@nickers said:

Wouldn't mind getting Tretter back at the right price... But these other kids look interesting... May as well see what they got....

We see this the same way..

I thought D.Deaton would get reps after Pocic... I learned we had a dude named Brock Huffman from the VT Hokies on our roster..Brock Huffman got reps ahead of D. Deaton getting reps..

Well Excuse me Mr. Brock Huffman & his entire family.. ? This UDFA from Virginia Tech played well & shares the same grad school as Wyatt Teller.. stay tuned.. #trustCallahan

nickers

@gumby73 said:

We see this the same way..

I thought D.Deaton would get reps after Pocic... I learned we had a dude named Brock Huffman from the VT Hokies on our roster..Brock Huffman got reps ahead of D. Deaton getting reps..

Well Excuse me Mr. Brock Huffman & his entire family.. ? This UDFA from Virginia Tech played well & shares the same grad school as Wyatt Teller.. stay tuned.. #trustCallahan

Callahan is about the only coach I trust on this team next to prief...

nickers

@gumby73 said:

We see this the same way..

I thought D.Deaton would get reps after Pocic... I learned we had a dude named Brock Huffman from the VT Hokies on our roster..Brock Huffman got reps ahead of D. Deaton getting reps..

Well Excuse me Mr. Brock Huffman & his entire family.. ? This UDFA from Virginia Tech played well & shares the same grad school as Wyatt Teller.. stay tuned.. #trustCallahan

Yeah the Deaton pick intrigued me the most... And me thinking at the time we took him.. Callahan is seeing something with this kid... I mean hell Drew Forbes was a Dorsey pick whose still hanging around...

Unsympathetic

Deaton shares a school with the Legend of Billy Joe Tolliver! And just like that, Deaton tore an ACL also, IR for him.

Dutch Oven

Most of us were somewhat to very concerned about the DTackle position, and now with the center position being decimated, this team could be very weak up the middle on both sides of the trenches.

Not a great thing for a team who plays outdoors in the North, running the ball and defending the run.

This offense without Watson is not going to run up pinball offensive numbers to make opposing offenses one dimensional, either.

Canton Dawg

If I recall the game last year against the Patriots, Bill B exploited the soft interior of our D Line.

Unfortunately, we move ahead another year and we still have the same issue.