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  • I worked ten years in R&D for a company that created plastic colorants,

    mostly as a technical software developer (the only one), learned a lot,

    but still I don't know about mercury.

    Cadmium-based pigments were all the msds rage back then, I believe

    those were outlawed long ago, now...

    But not a word about mercury, but great taxation and people control planned

    by the left at every op. Just seems so self-serving, at the cost of letting

    our environment go to hell otherwise. Hypocrisy seems to be the order of the day

    on the whole CO2-environment concern.

  • John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, on Global warming and Carbon:

    Well, it is simply not happening. Worldwide there was a significant natural warming trend in the 1980’s and 1990’s as a Solar cycle peaked with lots of sunspots and solar flares. That ended in 1998 and now the Sun has gone quiet with fewer and fewer Sun spots, and the global temperatures have gone into decline. Earth has cooled for almost ten straight years. So, I ask Al Gore, where’s the global warming?

    The cooling trend is so strong that recently the head of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had to acknowledge it. He speculated that nature has temporarily overwhelmed mankind’s warming and it may be ten years or so before the warming returns. Oh, really. We are supposed to be in a panic about man-made global warming and the whole thing takes a ten year break because of the lack of Sun spots. If this weren’t so serious, it would be laughable.

    Here is the deal about CO2, carbon dioxide. It is a natural component of our atmosphere. It has been there since time began. It is absorbed and emitted by the oceans. It is used by every living plant to trigger photosynthesis. Nothing would be green without it. And we humans; we create it. Every time we breathe out, we emit carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. It is not a pollutant. It is not smog. It is a naturally occurring invisible gas.

    source

    The only way to stop us from emitting carbon dioxide is to kill all 6.5Billion people on the planet. Someone riding their bike to work every day vs driving isn't going to impact the miniscule amount of the CO2 that humans contribute.

  • Ridiculous assertion.

    If the earth was cooling then there would be an increase in the volume of glaciers, which is not the case. And driving is just one of the contributions .. factories and power plants are the major pollutant suppliers. So there is a whole set of things that needs to change. And the way one prevents global warming is not by preventing all forms of CO2 emissions but rather by limiting the CO2 production alone but also by increasing the flora content to process the CO2 in the atmosphere. So It is not about preventing CO2 but rather controlling CO2.

  • The glaciers took how many centuries to be created?

    The current global cooling has only been occuring since 1996.

    But the earth has been cooling.

    for more information:

    http://www.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/Greenhouse.html

    and, William Kininmonth, an expert, says this:

    William Kininmonth is a meteorologist and an outspoken critic of global warming

    and the Kyoto Protocol. He was head of the National Climate Centre at the

    Bureau of Meteorology from 1986 to 1998.

    "Info Note No. 44 issued by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)

    underscores why the public should take no notice of climate predictions

    for months, years or centuries ahead.

    In the Note, the Secretary General of WMO discussed the potential for

    the current La Niña to extend into a second year and then concluded,

    with remarkable candidness, that 'The likelihood of the current La Niña

    continuing for such a period will remain unclear for some months'.

    Clearly the climate scientists, with all their elaborate computer models,

    cannot predict even a few months in advance.

    It should be recalled that in January 2007 the UK Meteorological Office,

    with much fanfare, predicted that the then current El Niño event would

    continue through 2007 and that 2007 would be the warmest year on record.

    The prediction was spectacularly wrong. The El Niño was soon replaced

    by a La Niña event and the global temperature fell 0.6°C in the 12 months

    to January 2008, effectively wiping off a century of ‘global warming’.

    1998 remains the warmest year of the climate record and the headline

    beginning 'Global warming continues...' is clearly misleading.

    No amount of spin can disguise the fact that there are many unknowns

    and uncertainties about the climate system. There is no compelling

    evidence that carbon dioxide has any significant control over the

    direction of global temperature and climate. The processes that regulate

    the interannual to decadal fluctuations of climate are poorly understood

    and, as yet, unpredictable."

  • Whether you believe global warming is a 'man made phenomenon' or is being made worse by man or is just a natural climate cycle, I think the bottom line is that we alone are responsible for the care of our planet.

    Any opportunity we have to make our environment better is never wasted.

    There are costs and sacrifices required to do that and we have to keep trying.

    I believe global climate change is simply a natural cycle that we have not yet begun to fully understand. Mother Earth has amazing abilities to heal herself if given the opportunity. We certainly aren't helping that happen, but I don't believe we are making a hugely significant impact.

  • Sun-Caused Global Warming

    September 8, 2009

    Investor's Business Daily

    Climate Change: A team of international scientists has finally figured out why sunspots have a dramatic effect on the weather. It shows the folly of fearing the SUV while dismissing that thermonuclear furnace in the sky.

    Mankind once worshiped the sun. Now the world studiously ignores it as nations prepare to hammer out a successor to the failed Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012, in Copenhagen in December. Something is indeed rotten in Denmark.

    Our own government is committed to fighting climate change whether it be though Son of Kyoto or our own growth-capping, job-killing cap-and-trade legislation known as Waxman-Markey.

    Despite the sun being the major source of all energy on earth, supporters of man-caused global warming have dismissed the sun's role in climate change. They say the historic 11-year solar cycle changes the amount of energy reaching the earth by about only 0.1% not enough to account for temperature rises this century.

    The Aug. 28 issue of the journal Science details how the scientific team led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), using a century's worth of data and three powerful computer models, figured out just how small changes in solar activity can trigger great changes in earth's climate.

    The study found that chemicals in the stratosphere and sea surface temperatures during solar maximums act in a way that amplifies the sun's influence. The slight increase in solar energy in the peak production of sunspots is absorbed by stratospheric ozone, warming the air in the tropics where sunlight is most intense.

    The additional energy also helps produce more ozone that absorbs even more solar energy. The increased sunlight causes a slight warming of ocean surface waters across the subtropical Pacific.

    This stratospheric energy absorption and sea surface warming can intensify winds and rainfall, and ultimately influence global weather in ways that amplify the sun's influence.

    "The sun, the stratosphere and the oceans are connected in ways that can influence such events as winter rainfall in North America," says study author Gerald Meehl. "Understanding the role of the solar cycle can provide added insight as scientists work toward predicting regional weather patterns for the next couple of decades."

    The world has significantly cooled in the last decade, a period that corresponds to a decline and virtual halt in sunspot activity. Solar activity is in a valley right now, the deepest of the past century. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reports that in 2008 and 2009 the sun set Space Age records for low sunspot counts, weak solar wind and low solar radiance.

    R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, has said that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long-, medium- and even short-time scales."

    Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

    A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion. "The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were less than one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

    Current solar inactivity is similar to what scientists call the Maunder Minimum, a period of solar inactivity from 1645 to 1715 that spawned what is known as the Little Ice Age. At Christmas, Londoners could ice skate on the frozen Thames and New Yorkers could walk over the Hudson from Manhattan to Staten Island.

    The NCAR study shows how complicated atmospheric and climate science really is and how many variables must be factored in to have even a basic understanding of all the components that make up and influence earth's climate before the world commits economic suicide.

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/A....aspx?id=505573

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    Maybe Obama and thr Libs can place an Energy Tax on the Sun to!!! 😆

  • Been there, already, T.

    Heck, mz the pussy, Dan and Shep, if I recall correctly, believe that the sun

    is a right wing conspiracy created by Pres Bush.

  • A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

  • The glaciers took how many centuries to be created?

    The current global cooling has only been occuring since 1996.

    But the earth has been cooling.

    for more information:

    http://www.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/Greenhouse.html

    and, William Kininmonth, an expert, says this:

    William Kininmonth is a meteorologist and an outspoken critic of global warming

    and the Kyoto Protocol. He was head of the National Climate Centre at the

    Bureau of Meteorology from 1986 to 1998.

    "Info Note No. 44 issued by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)

    underscores why the public should take no notice of climate predictions

    for months, years or centuries ahead.

    In the Note, the Secretary General of WMO discussed the potential for

    the current La Niña to extend into a second year and then concluded,

    with remarkable candidness, that 'The likelihood of the current La Niña

    continuing for such a period will remain unclear for some months'.

    Clearly the climate scientists, with all their elaborate computer models,

    cannot predict even a few months in advance.

    It should be recalled that in January 2007 the UK Meteorological Office,

    with much fanfare, predicted that the then current El Niño event would

    continue through 2007 and that 2007 would be the warmest year on record.

    The prediction was spectacularly wrong. The El Niño was soon replaced

    by a La Niña event and the global temperature fell 0.6°C in the 12 months

    to January 2008, effectively wiping off a century of ‘global warming’.

    1998 remains the warmest year of the climate record and the headline

    beginning 'Global warming continues...' is clearly misleading.

    No amount of spin can disguise the fact that there are many unknowns

    and uncertainties about the climate system. There is no compelling

    evidence that carbon dioxide has any significant control over the

    direction of global temperature and climate. The processes that regulate

    the interannual to decadal fluctuations of climate are poorly understood

    and, as yet, unpredictable."

    @calfoxwc said:

    The glaciers took how many centuries to be created?

    The current global cooling has only been occurring since 1996.

    But the earth has been cooling.

    Glaciers melt only if the temperatures heat up. If it was cooling as one says then we will have atleast seen the melting stop - which is not happening.

    The suns effect directly on global warming is minimal. GreenHouse gasses are a major factor in global warming.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/...90511122425.htm

    And here is another link that says that the melting of Ice in Artic is man made:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,3388515.story

    And there is another scientist who thinks that this cooling phase we see is a result of Earths natural cycle taking stronger effect over the man made warming. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...t-predicts.html

    -------------------------

    We can take links all day long and try to attack-counter attack each day. While scientific minds are trying to understand the pattern behind the earths climatic changes, It can be confirmed that they still do not have the understanding of how it actually occurs and what the exact pattern is. But we can only conclude for now that emitting these green house gasses does make a difference to the way the earth reacts- how and by how much we do not know yet.

  • Mother nature is going to shake us off like water droplets on a dog....there will be a giant microbe/virus that will balance out this OVERpopulated planet....I don't even think it's a question of if...just when. We are due for a large scale De-population....it has occurred throughout time and will continue 🙁 .

  • A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

    @legacy-fan said:

    A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

    Vey very interesting...

  • Solar? Cool, but it won't work in Ohio... GGG

  • Solar? Cool, but it won't work in Ohio... GGG

    @calfoxwc said:

    Solar? Cool, but it won't work in Ohio... GGG

    I think I-40 in Flagstaff, AZ can pick up your slack.

    What I think is the coolest part are the LED's that can be put into the roads that can be updated with traffic, or emergency type situations ahead.

  • A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

    @legacy-fan said:

    A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

    This is a great ideal, I wonder what the cost comparison would be for cities to use this as a means to power traffic signals and street lights.

    I bet it would be very cost effetive.

  • @legacy-fan said:

    A possible solution to our failing infrastructure & repowering "the grid"

    Solar Roadways

    Solar%20Roadway.gif

    This is a great ideal, I wonder what the cost comparison would be for cities to use this as a means to power traffic signals and street lights.

    I bet it would be very cost effetive.

    @mr.-t said:

    This is a great ideal, I wonder what the cost comparison would be for cities to use this as a means to power traffic signals and street lights.

    I bet it would be very cost effetive.

    With the amount of infrastructure repairs that the nation requires, the article/study determined that if asphalt was replaced with the panels and our interstates, etc. were "re-paved" with the panels, the ENTIRE POWER GRID would no longer require the use of non-renewable resources to generate electricity. And that's the whole grid, not just traffic signals and streetlights.

  • ($7000 for a 12'x12' panel)

    I would bet that if a city or state was really interested, that with the volume of panels the cost per panel could be made cheaper.

    Maybe we should ask the man with the lock box for the keys.