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  • @dutch-oven said:

    My goodness, I'm not sure it is right of me to post another one of these so soon after rocking your collective world's with Ray "Bubba" Ventrone news, but who could ever forget former 2015 first round pick Danny Shelton? Well the Kansas City Chiefs didn't, that for sure! 

    https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article264343131.html

    You are forgiven Son of cal.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    You are forgiven Son of cal.?

    The sarcasm is delicious, I vote for Dutch keeping it going.... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is a quality suggestion, consider it done!

    And let's remember, he was also Michael Dyson for like one game, too. 

    We need updates on Brandon Weeden and Deshone Kaiser too!!!   And WHO can ever forget that epic training camp sensation Ben Gay?  😁 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You are forgiven Son of cal.?

    The sarcasm is delicious, I vote for Dutch keeping it going.... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    That is a quality suggestion, consider it done!

    And let's remember, he was also Michael Dyson for like one game, too. 

    We need updates on Brandon Weeden and Deshone Kaiser too!!!   And WHO can ever forget that epic training camp sensation Ben Gay?  😁 

    @hoorta said:

    The sarcasm is delicious, I vote for Dutch keeping it going.... 

    We need updates on Brandon Weeden and Deshone Kaiser too!!!   And WHO can ever forget that epic training camp sensation Ben Gay?  😁 

    Sarcasm? Me? I have no idea what you are talking about, hoorta.

    I actually had thought of doing one for one of the three guys you mentioned!  

  • Great posts and a Very cool thread.  

    How about this guy…Mr. Leroy Hoard.  *ichigan guy but a very good dude.  Who remembers his catch from his back…circa early 90s at the time maybe my favorite touchdown ever. I was around 10 or so I spotted Leroy, Minnifield and here’s another name for you all Pio Sagapulatelli (SIC for sure- and can you find where he is now) in Dayton out and about and forced my Mom to start a conversation with them so I could get autograph.  Please no comments lol…Dad was there too.   
     

    He’s currently on sports talk radio in south Florida….thankfully away from *ichigan football. 

    97D7EEEC-1817-4D1D-908E-33225C8C1D38.jpeg

  • Great posts and a Very cool thread.  

    How about this guy…Mr. Leroy Hoard.  *ichigan guy but a very good dude.  Who remembers his catch from his back…circa early 90s at the time maybe my favorite touchdown ever. I was around 10 or so I spotted Leroy, Minnifield and here’s another name for you all Pio Sagapulatelli (SIC for sure- and can you find where he is now) in Dayton out and about and forced my Mom to start a conversation with them so I could get autograph.  Please no comments lol…Dad was there too.   
     

    He’s currently on sports talk radio in south Florida….thankfully away from *ichigan football. 

    97D7EEEC-1817-4D1D-908E-33225C8C1D38.jpeg

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Great posts and a Very cool thread.  

    How about this guy…Mr. Leroy Hoard.  *ichigan guy but a very good dude.  Who remembers his catch from his back…circa early 90s at the time maybe my favorite touchdown ever. I was around 10 or so I spotted Leroy, Minnifield and here’s another name for you all Pio Sagapulatelli (SIC for sure- and can you find where he is now) in Dayton out and about and forced my Mom to start a conversation with them so I could get autograph.  Please no comments lol…Dad was there too.   
     

    He’s currently on sports talk radio in south Florida….thankfully away from *ichigan football. 

    97D7EEEC-1817-4D1D-908E-33225C8C1D38.jpeg

    Always liked Hoard, ran hard and from what I remember was a pretty darn good pass catcher out of the backfield. 

    My potential list continues to grow!

    The thirst for ex-Browns player news is strong here on TBB! 

  • JFF is at peace, more thankful for his rise and his fall in football and has these words back in April for the Baker/Browns situation.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/04/23/johnny-manziel-still-playing-football-with-a-new-perspective/50127955/

    “I try and stay out of a lot of the Cleveland drama and what surrounds the Browns, but being a friend of Baker and having a bunch of mutual friends, we do spend a little bit of time together here and there,” Manziel said. “He’s got a good head on his shoulders. I think he’s got a lot of his career left ahead of him, and he’s going to get himself in a situation just based on the fact that Cleveland doesn’t want him anymore, obviously, with decisions they’ve made. He’s going to land on his feet and I think he’ll end up somewhere where he can be successful. I wish him nothing but the best.”

    He was channeling cal obviously. ?

  • Here's a personal favorite of mine, Browns long snapper extraordinaire, Ryan Pontbriand!

    In the 2003 NFL Draft, Butch Davis used a 5th round pick on Pontbriand, the highest draft pick ever used on a player who strictly was a long snapper. Well, safe to say, Ryan longsnapped himself right into Browns fan's hearts! He would have a long, successful run with the Browns, playing in Cleveland until he was released during the 2011 season, gaining two Pro Bowl berths. I feel safe saying that we all felt pride seeing Pontbriand bent over in Hawaii with the other Pro Bowl players, snapping balls between his legs!

    What's Ryan up to now? Well fuck me running, what is he NOT up to these days? Married to his wife Nicole, father of three childrens, Ryan is in the real estate business, while also building custom homes AND owning Empower Fitness Lab in Houston, Texas. 

    ryan pontbriand browns.jpeg

  • I can’t wait for you to do Michael Jackson (not the singer that wears one glove and sings “beat it”).

    @canton-dawg said:

    I can’t wait for you to do Michael Jackson (not the singer that wears one glove and sings “beat it”).

    That guy ran 4.3s but he had a rock quarry that just couldn't catch footballs when he got open.  So why did some fans still call him "Thriller"?   He'd either inexplicably catch passes we didn't expect him to in traffic -or- he got the gloves to fit over the rock quarry.

  • Here's an exciting and insightful new thread for you to peruse, as we find out what ex-Browns greats are up to now!

    In the first installment, lets see what Ray "Bubba" Ventrone, ex-Browns special team superstar is up to!

    https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/bubba-ventrone

    ray venrone.jpeg

    @dutch-oven said:

    Here's an exciting and insightful new thread for you to peruse, as we find out what ex-Browns greats are up to now!

    In the first installment, lets see what Ray "Bubba" Ventrone, ex-Browns special team superstar is up to!

    https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/bubba-ventrone

    ray venrone.jpeg

    Thank God Shep's not here any more.  He'd be pissed you weren't showing this guy in fanny floss.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Here's an exciting and insightful new thread for you to peruse, as we find out what ex-Browns greats are up to now!

    In the first installment, lets see what Ray "Bubba" Ventrone, ex-Browns special team superstar is up to!

    https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/bubba-ventrone

    ray venrone.jpeg

    Thank God Shep's not here any more.  He'd be pissed you weren't showing this guy in fanny floss.

    @flugel said:

    Thank God Shep's not here any more.  He'd be pissed you weren't showing this guy in fanny floss.

    Who was Shep?

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Great posts and a Very cool thread.  

    How about this guy…Mr. Leroy Hoard.  *ichigan guy but a very good dude.  Who remembers his catch from his back…circa early 90s at the time maybe my favorite touchdown ever. I was around 10 or so I spotted Leroy, Minnifield and here’s another name for you all Pio Sagapulatelli (SIC for sure- and can you find where he is now) in Dayton out and about and forced my Mom to start a conversation with them so I could get autograph.  Please no comments lol…Dad was there too.   
     

    He’s currently on sports talk radio in south Florida….thankfully away from *ichigan football. 

    97D7EEEC-1817-4D1D-908E-33225C8C1D38.jpeg

    Always liked Hoard, ran hard and from what I remember was a pretty darn good pass catcher out of the backfield. 

    My potential list continues to grow!

    The thirst for ex-Browns player news is strong here on TBB! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Always liked Hoard, ran hard and from what I remember was a pretty darn good pass catcher out of the backfield. 

    My potential list continues to grow!

    The thirst for ex-Browns player news is strong here on TBB! 

    Despite the college he attended, he was fun to watch and easy to appreciate. Like you said he "ran hard" to the extent that even though he played RB for the Browns he actually made the Pro Bowl as a Fullback.  In the process, it quietly got us to forget Touchdown Tommy turned into Touchdown-Free Tommy; and Metcalf should have been in the slot (before his next teams knew enough to do that).

  • @flugel said:

    Thank God Shep's not here any more.  He'd be pissed you weren't showing this guy in fanny floss.

    Who was Shep?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Who was Shep?

    He was an outspoken guy that lived on the board (many moons ago) that had the most outrageous criteria.  He wanted only QBs and players that were good looking to him.  One time he corrected me with "if he can't get laid he shouldn't get paid."  Good thing he's not the one deciding how long Watson should be suspended. "If you would have got it right the first time we wouldn't be here now would we Mr. Watson?"

  • @flugel said:

    Thank God Shep's not here any more.  He'd be pissed you weren't showing this guy in fanny floss.

    Who was Shep?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Who was Shep?

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    @flugel said:

    He was an outspoken guy that lived on the board (many moons ago) that had the most outrageous criteria.  He wanted only QBs and players that were good looking to him.  One time he corrected me with "if he can't get laid he shouldn't get paid."  Good thing he's not the one deciding how long Watson should be suspended. "If you would have got it right the first time we wouldn't be here now would we Mr. Watson?"

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Who was Shep?

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    @flugel said:

    He was an outspoken guy that lived on the board (many moons ago) that had the most outrageous criteria.  He wanted only QBs and players that were good looking to him.  One time he corrected me with "if he can't get laid he shouldn't get paid."  Good thing he's not the one deciding how long Watson should be suspended. "If you would have got it right the first time we wouldn't be here now would we Mr. Watson?"

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

    @hoorta said:

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

    Shep had his moment. He was a pretty big deal screenwriter/director a few years back. I always liked him. We had lunch a couple of times in LA.  He sure as hell knew his Browns history. Made it fun to talk with him. 

  • Shep was a bizarre dude..Never saw a guy who could get so hyped on a QB and die with him.... Never doubted the mans fandom... His common sense.. Well that was suspect... He defended Alex Smith to the core...He was mostly wrong on him... But Smith did turn in a respectable career... Not elite by any stretch... I do wish that knucklehead well though...

  • JFF is at peace, more thankful for his rise and his fall in football and has these words back in April for the Baker/Browns situation.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/04/23/johnny-manziel-still-playing-football-with-a-new-perspective/50127955/

    “I try and stay out of a lot of the Cleveland drama and what surrounds the Browns, but being a friend of Baker and having a bunch of mutual friends, we do spend a little bit of time together here and there,” Manziel said. “He’s got a good head on his shoulders. I think he’s got a lot of his career left ahead of him, and he’s going to get himself in a situation just based on the fact that Cleveland doesn’t want him anymore, obviously, with decisions they’ve made. He’s going to land on his feet and I think he’ll end up somewhere where he can be successful. I wish him nothing but the best.”

    He was channeling cal obviously. ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    JFF is at peace, more thankful for his rise and his fall in football and has these words back in April for the Baker/Browns situation.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/04/23/johnny-manziel-still-playing-football-with-a-new-perspective/50127955/

    “I try and stay out of a lot of the Cleveland drama and what surrounds the Browns, but being a friend of Baker and having a bunch of mutual friends, we do spend a little bit of time together here and there,” Manziel said. “He’s got a good head on his shoulders. I think he’s got a lot of his career left ahead of him, and he’s going to get himself in a situation just based on the fact that Cleveland doesn’t want him anymore, obviously, with decisions they’ve made. He’s going to land on his feet and I think he’ll end up somewhere where he can be successful. I wish him nothing but the best.”

    He was channeling cal obviously. ?

    fug JFF.

  • Are you fellas ready to have your balls blown off?

    Well, it's Brian Brennan time here in the little thread that could! Brennan, a fan favorite (because if there is something Cleveland fans just love, its small white players!) in his eight seasons with the Browns. Drafted in the 4th round in 1984, this Boston College teammate of Doug Flutie had himself a very nice career, finishing with 334 receptions for 4336 yards and 20 touchdowns. His touchdown reception vs the Broncos in the 1986 AFC Championship was possibly the high point of the Browns franchise in the Super Bowl era. They would never get closer to a Super Bowl than that. 

    Brennan still lives in the Cleveland area, he and his college sweetheart wife Bethany live in Pepper Pike and have three kids. Brian is a manager at the Key Bank headquarters, where it is rumored he can be heard saying "Dollar, dollar bills, ya'll". 

    brian brennan browns.jpeg

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Who was Shep?

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    @flugel said:

    He was an outspoken guy that lived on the board (many moons ago) that had the most outrageous criteria.  He wanted only QBs and players that were good looking to him.  One time he corrected me with "if he can't get laid he shouldn't get paid."  Good thing he's not the one deciding how long Watson should be suspended. "If you would have got it right the first time we wouldn't be here now would we Mr. Watson?"

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

    @hoorta said:

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

    Yeah, he sure got a lot of them QBs wrong; but it's not like I've been anything to brag about in that department either.

    The funniest intangible he looked for was if the QB has red hair and/or freckles somebody better call 911 because we're in deep shit,  As outrageous as that sounds, hindsight 20/20 shows us Charlie Frye, Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy ("don't give me that strawberry blonde stuff - strawberries are red") was where he seemed to get them right. 

    Back then, Cal had Shep belly up on some Dr Frasier Crane's couch when he was excited about Charlie Frye.  Not only that, both Shep and Rich4eagle were in that fantasy football league the 1st year Cal tried to play. I was in it too. When Cal was drafting all Cleveland Browns - everybody was laughing.  As fate had it, when they either got benched or injured he picked up other guys.  Next thing you know, he started winning and announcing "so this is how you play fantasy football..."  Believe it or not, Cal won the league. If anyone remembers how Rich4eagle was wired - they know his computer ended up in a 1000 pieces floating in the nearest body of water.  Meanwhile, Shep's shrink probably raised the rates. 

    You can't make this stuff up...

  • @hoorta said:

    Oh, Flugs is mostly right, Shep had a man crush on quarterbacks, and would analyze them to the death.  He was mostly wrong though. Notable failures... Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn.  & See below...  

    RE: Mr. Quinn.. Shep and a few others were responsible for the Great Board Schism back then..  Got so POed at Stan, they ran off and started their own competing Board B-arking H-ard (I believe that's still on auto correct.)   It's now hanging on by a thread too, because Shep and others got POed there recently and took off. I've lost track of him. 

    What I do know in his line of work he makes enough $$$ to travel and get the best seats at away games. Don't quote me on this as being accurate, but I believe he's a screenwriter living in LA.  I have his cell # (haven't used it in years). Even met him after a Browns game many Moons ago, and I will say this- (and my nephew agrees) his daughter is drop dead gorgeous with the looks of a model.  🙂    

    Yeah, he sure got a lot of them QBs wrong; but it's not like I've been anything to brag about in that department either.

    The funniest intangible he looked for was if the QB has red hair and/or freckles somebody better call 911 because we're in deep shit,  As outrageous as that sounds, hindsight 20/20 shows us Charlie Frye, Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy ("don't give me that strawberry blonde stuff - strawberries are red") was where he seemed to get them right. 

    Back then, Cal had Shep belly up on some Dr Frasier Crane's couch when he was excited about Charlie Frye.  Not only that, both Shep and Rich4eagle were in that fantasy football league the 1st year Cal tried to play. I was in it too. When Cal was drafting all Cleveland Browns - everybody was laughing.  As fate had it, when they either got benched or injured he picked up other guys.  Next thing you know, he started winning and announcing "so this is how you play fantasy football..."  Believe it or not, Cal won the league. If anyone remembers how Rich4eagle was wired - they know his computer ended up in a 1000 pieces floating in the nearest body of water.  Meanwhile, Shep's shrink probably raised the rates. 

    You can't make this stuff up...

    @flugel said:

    Yeah, he sure got a lot of them QBs wrong; but it's not like I've been anything to brag about in that department either.

    The funniest intangible he looked for was if the QB has red hair and/or freckles somebody better call 911 because we're in deep shit,  As outrageous as that sounds, hindsight 20/20 shows us Charlie Frye, Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy ("don't give me that strawberry blonde stuff - strawberries are red") was where he seemed to get them right. 

    Back then, Cal had Shep belly up on some Dr Frasier Crane's couch when he was excited about Charlie Frye.  Not only that, both Shep and Rich4eagle were in that fantasy football league the 1st year Cal tried to play. I was in it too. When Cal was drafting all Cleveland Browns - everybody was laughing.  As fate had it, when they either got benched or injured he picked up other guys.  Next thing you know, he started winning and announcing "so this is how you play fantasy football..."  Believe it or not, Cal won the league. If anyone remembers how Rich4eagle was wired - they know his computer ended up in a 1000 pieces floating in the nearest body of water.  Meanwhile, Shep's shrink probably raised the rates. 

    You can't make this stuff up...

    A great insight on things for those of us that only been here for 6 years and 16 days  yeah I'm actually counting the days, why I don't really know.  The nerd in me i guess.   😕

    Nice story on Cal winning it all and Rich4eagle and his computer in 1000 pieces....that was somehow priceless.   Rich4eagle if you're out there I'd love to hear that story from your POV.

    Nice stuff Flugs.

  • @flugel said:

    Yeah, he sure got a lot of them QBs wrong; but it's not like I've been anything to brag about in that department either.

    The funniest intangible he looked for was if the QB has red hair and/or freckles somebody better call 911 because we're in deep shit,  As outrageous as that sounds, hindsight 20/20 shows us Charlie Frye, Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy ("don't give me that strawberry blonde stuff - strawberries are red") was where he seemed to get them right. 

    Back then, Cal had Shep belly up on some Dr Frasier Crane's couch when he was excited about Charlie Frye.  Not only that, both Shep and Rich4eagle were in that fantasy football league the 1st year Cal tried to play. I was in it too. When Cal was drafting all Cleveland Browns - everybody was laughing.  As fate had it, when they either got benched or injured he picked up other guys.  Next thing you know, he started winning and announcing "so this is how you play fantasy football..."  Believe it or not, Cal won the league. If anyone remembers how Rich4eagle was wired - they know his computer ended up in a 1000 pieces floating in the nearest body of water.  Meanwhile, Shep's shrink probably raised the rates. 

    You can't make this stuff up...

    A great insight on things for those of us that only been here for 6 years and 16 days  yeah I'm actually counting the days, why I don't really know.  The nerd in me i guess.   😕

    Nice story on Cal winning it all and Rich4eagle and his computer in 1000 pieces....that was somehow priceless.   Rich4eagle if you're out there I'd love to hear that story from your POV.

    Nice stuff Flugs.

    @mjp28 said:

    A great insight on things for those of us that only been here for 6 years and 16 days  yeah I'm actually counting the days, why I don't really know.  The nerd in me i guess.   😕

    Nice story on Cal winning it all and Rich4eagle and his computer in 1000 pieces....that was somehow priceless.   Rich4eagle if you're out there I'd love to hear that story from your POV.

    Nice stuff Flugs.

    Why is that some of our biggest board whackos are really pretty decent people when you meet them in person... Rich was a regular at many of our Tailgates that predated "The Lot Under the Bridge"... Last time I saw him was way back when the Browns- coincidentally- played the Panthers in Charlotte.  And we did have a pretty great time in Charlotte Saturday evening before the game. 

    Yeah even Ghoolie- when he dropped his Board persona- was a pretty regular guy when he showed me around Youngstown way back.  

  • @mjp28 said:

    A great insight on things for those of us that only been here for 6 years and 16 days  yeah I'm actually counting the days, why I don't really know.  The nerd in me i guess.   😕

    Nice story on Cal winning it all and Rich4eagle and his computer in 1000 pieces....that was somehow priceless.   Rich4eagle if you're out there I'd love to hear that story from your POV.

    Nice stuff Flugs.

    Why is that some of our biggest board whackos are really pretty decent people when you meet them in person... Rich was a regular at many of our Tailgates that predated "The Lot Under the Bridge"... Last time I saw him was way back when the Browns- coincidentally- played the Panthers in Charlotte.  And we did have a pretty great time in Charlotte Saturday evening before the game. 

    Yeah even Ghoolie- when he dropped his Board persona- was a pretty regular guy when he showed me around Youngstown way back.  

    @hoorta said:

    Why is that some of our biggest board whackos are really pretty decent people when you meet them in person... Rich was a regular at many of our Tailgates that predated "The Lot Under the Bridge"... Last time I saw him was way back when the Browns- coincidentally- played the Panthers in Charlotte.  And we did have a pretty great time in Charlotte Saturday evening before the game. 

    Yeah even Ghoolie- when he dropped his Board persona- was a pretty regular guy when he showed me around Youngstown way back.  

    That is kind of amazing at times, guys that seem to be regular nice or OK guys in person......but put a keyboard in front of them and......whoa, who is this idiot ?

    Ghoolie for example, if he's who I think he is, I'm sure he graduated from Austintown Fitch,  went to YSU the same time I was there, he was a chemistry major. And he went to our church on Rayen Avenue in Youngstown.  My mother-in-law knew his parents, dad was a church usher, mom made pyrogies,  on and on. Left y-town a was a big personality (to put it mildly)  in Memphis (I believe)  his face in their papers calling him "Terrible _______ ",  they said he came there to try to further his music career.......on and on, interesting reading.  Left for Vegas, hit it big in his wastewater ideas, good for him.  He was never shy about promoting himself.

    I was going to ask him about the church business when through his arrogance and foul mouth got himself kicked off TBB.....NO secrets there.   Amazing isn't it almost like two different people off/on the computer.   BTW he deserved a ban from here.