Liz out
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I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
As I said before, Liz put her personal vendetta ahead of what her constituents wanted.
Buh-bye Liz.
Next up Lisa Murkowski.
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I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
Of course you would. Because in many ways you're a stooge. John McCain just miscalculated he wasn't 100% treasonous against his party (or more accurately his conservative positions) and the nation and usually voted conservative. He did get a lot of mileage out of his Maverick posturing. Liz Cheney has made her hatred of Donald Trump her only focus in life. She never even bothers to speak on any other issue facing the nation. Which is a little bit insane. But deep in your heart of hearts you know that.
Politicians should realize that the affection from MSNBC is much like the smile for a pretty bartender.
WSS
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Liz Cheney, the carpet munching swamp rat! Don't let the door hit you in the ass! ?
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Maybe she should switch parties? I bet if she did she would find out that the Liberals don't really love her as much as they pretend to. Look what happened to John McCain.
My opinion? These crackpots making everything about Donald Trump has done a disservice to the party and the country. There really are more important issues to focus on. Only idiots obsess on trump.
WSS
My opinion? These crackpots making everything about Donald Trump has done a disservice to the party and the country. There really are more important issues to focus on. Only idiots obsess on trump.
WSS
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
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I thought this was funny......
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I thought this was funny......
Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
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I thought this was funny......
Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
No. Just the Trump money machine and how it has (unfortunately) screwed up the Republican party. They are going to be screwed up for awhile until they get back to their roots, loyal old GOP members are discussing this everyday.
This country needs a healthy Democratic and Republican party to function well not all this extremist crap on both sides that has creeped in.
Also why I don't post here too much, it's too much my way or the highway again both sides. Have a good evening to everyone.
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Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
No. Just the Trump money machine and how it has (unfortunately) screwed up the Republican party. They are going to be screwed up for awhile until they get back to their roots, loyal old GOP members are discussing this everyday.
This country needs a healthy Democratic and Republican party to function well not all this extremist crap on both sides that has creeped in.
Also why I don't post here too much, it's too much my way or the highway again both sides. Have a good evening to everyone.
No. Just the Trump money machine and how it has (unfortunately) screwed up the Republican party. They are going to be screwed up for awhile until they get back to their roots, loyal old GOP members are discussing this everyday.
This country needs a healthy Democratic and Republican party to function well not all this extremist crap on both sides that has creeped in.
Also why I don't post here too much, it's too much my way or the highway again both sides. Have a good evening to everyone.
I don't see that at all. It's the left that ridiculed even my story about nearly dying as a kid. It's the left that gives out warning points and "time out" threats every time their belligerence is met with belligerence. It's the left that trolls asinine changes in subject because they can't defend what is going on.
Things might be more fair and peaceful around here, I think - except we still have a belligerent troll or two. Nobody else here is saying "my way or the highway" honest disagreement is great.
What do you think about 78000 more irs agents? the de-iinflation bill that snuck in as a global warming tax vendetta piece?
etc?
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My opinion? These crackpots making everything about Donald Trump has done a disservice to the party and the country. There really are more important issues to focus on. Only idiots obsess on trump.
WSS
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Well, here is what I think. I think it is way, way, way less a divisiveness that originates with Pres Trump. The divisiveness is the democrats and the deep state. More divisive than the left in control of our government? I don't get it, Bob - polls say about 70% or 80% or more, believe we are headed in the WRONG direction.
After the fake hillary/dnc/fbi/doj dishonest FAKE Trump/Russia Collusion farce, the face NY prosecution that went nowhere officially, the impeachment where even vindman admitted he lied, others lied, after comey leaked a dossier they KNEW was not established as legit to the NY newspaper, as he ADMITTED - just to get a prosecution of Trump, after the fbi LIED TO THE FISA COURT, after the doj and fbi refused to investigate hillary for destroying all those documents and phones AFTER THEY WERE SUBPOENAed....after all the leftwing media waged a phony war against Pres Trump, after brennan of the cia disgraced himself, after peter "dick" strzok and lisa page did fake crap towards Pres Trump to KEEP HIM from getting elected, etc, after Klinesmith of the fbi was found to be the one that forged changes to a document to incriminate Pres Trump falsely, after they got Manafort for "lies to the fbi" and put him in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for A YEAR, after comey LIED openly to Congress, after chrissy deep state mafia wray declared to congress that the fbi has "limited resources" to explain why they let hillary go scot free.....after bidne/obaMao and co OPENED our borders to fentanyl, terrorists, and millions of illegals.....
you want to say Pres TRUMP is DIVISIVE?
He is extremely controversial - some of it his own fault, but most of it is fabricated and spawned by the leftwing media, deep state, fbi, doj,
America was doing GREAT under PRes Trump. We were getting extremely divisive under obaMao. and under biden, America is screwed with a democrat congress.
Personally, I hope Desantis runs instead, but the leftist/now stalinist democrats will do al lthe same crap to him.
the fbi violated our Constitution in the dirty corrupt raid on Pres Trump's home. If they ban AR-15s whatever else - it is in violation of our Constitution/Bill of Rights. The deep state/stalinist left weaponizing the fbi, doj, irs, dhs, epa to harass and ruin convervative groups......
you have biden and the left criminaliizing parents for speaking out against CRT.
etc etc etc.
Come on, Bob. I don't get it. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure it isn't.
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Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
No. Just the Trump money machine and how it has (unfortunately) screwed up the Republican party. They are going to be screwed up for awhile until they get back to their roots, loyal old GOP members are discussing this everyday.
This country needs a healthy Democratic and Republican party to function well not all this extremist crap on both sides that has creeped in.
Also why I don't post here too much, it's too much my way or the highway again both sides. Have a good evening to everyone.
No. Just the Trump money machine and how it has (unfortunately) screwed up the Republican party. They are going to be screwed up for awhile until they get back to their roots, loyal old GOP members are discussing this everyday.
This country needs a healthy Democratic and Republican party to function well not all this extremist crap on both sides that has creeped in.
Also why I don't post here too much, it's too much my way or the highway again both sides. Have a good evening to everyone.
You are too out of touch is why you shouldn't post here.
"My way or the highway"? I suppose you can say that. Either take the route of the evildoers or ride with the good guys!
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I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
I'd vote for her. But then I voted for McCain too. She's more Republican than Trump ever thought about being and there is no more important an issue than trying to save our Constitutional Democracy whether you agree or not. We're at a crossroads between one person, one vote and a South American dictatorship with a totally rigged far right wingnut totally imbalanced three power in one system of government. When checks and balances are gone, this Republic will fail. The minority Trumpublican party will kill it. Liz had the courage to see than and fight it at the expense of her seat in Congress.
Hyperbole: Examples ^^^
I see you must have been listening to Nancy Pelosi again, or perhaps Schiff.
Dictatorship? Even if all that rubbish was true you do know that Trump if elected could only serve one term right?
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My opinion? These crackpots making everything about Donald Trump has done a disservice to the party and the country. There really are more important issues to focus on. Only idiots obsess on trump.
WSS
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Oh yes he is divisive. And I wish he would leave the stage. But he would absolutely win the nomination in the first place. Why? Because the field is going to be packed with a big bunch of Rinos some of which running with a conservative agenda DeSantis OR running just out of Trump hate. Like Liz Chaney the two opposite type of republicans. And they will split up the vote between five or six week candidates. The only guy unlike the rest of the pack will be Donald Trump. Just like last time. As to whether he'd win the presidency I disagree with you Bob, hard to tell what the country is going to look like in 24. But if the Democrats think Joe Biden is going to be any sharper than he is after 4 years in office I think they are dreaming.
By the way Bob it's always a pleasure discussing things with you we might not be supporters of the same party but I think you try to see the other side if possible.
WSS
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I thought this was funny......
Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
Really?
Cheney was sent to Congress to represent the people of Wyoming.. Basically on the strength of her father's surname.. She decided her personal vendetta was more important. They voted her out as a result.. And you find this fucked up portrayal of the Wyoming people as Nazis funny?
Really?
So I guess most of Wyoming voters are Nazi's according to MJP?
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Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Oh yes he is divisive. And I wish he would leave the stage. But he would absolutely win the nomination in the first place. Why? Because the field is going to be packed with a big bunch of Rinos some of which running with a conservative agenda DeSantis OR running just out of Trump hate. Like Liz Chaney the two opposite type of republicans. And they will split up the vote between five or six week candidates. The only guy unlike the rest of the pack will be Donald Trump. Just like last time. As to whether he'd win the presidency I disagree with you Bob, hard to tell what the country is going to look like in 24. But if the Democrats think Joe Biden is going to be any sharper than he is after 4 years in office I think they are dreaming.
By the way Bob it's always a pleasure discussing things with you we might not be supporters of the same party but I think you try to see the other side if possible.
WSS
Oh yes he is divisive. And I wish he would leave the stage. But he would absolutely win the nomination in the first place. Why? Because the field is going to be packed with a big bunch of Rinos some of which running with a conservative agenda DeSantis OR running just out of Trump hate. Like Liz Chaney the two opposite type of republicans. And they will split up the vote between five or six week candidates. The only guy unlike the rest of the pack will be Donald Trump. Just like last time. As to whether he'd win the presidency I disagree with you Bob, hard to tell what the country is going to look like in 24. But if the Democrats think Joe Biden is going to be any sharper than he is after 4 years in office I think they are dreaming.
By the way Bob it's always a pleasure discussing things with you we might not be supporters of the same party but I think you try to see the other side if possible.
WSS
WSS, agree.
FYI- I unregistered as Dem January 22nd 2021, after Biden signed all those Executive Orders.
The Dems kind of lost me, (probably many others) mainly due to a too far-left campaign. I honestly don't recall them touting union rights/working rights (important to me).
This administration seems to be the worst in my lifetime (I'm 59). Combine that with a lame Congress & lobbyists, it's gridlock city in DC.
What we Americans need, and who knows if it's possible in today's divisive political arena, is some candidate to unite us....think about it, it seems there's been investigations into our Presidents or Presidential candidates since Reagan left office. A total negative vibe for nearly 40 years.
Karlis Missed -
Yes, there are more important issues to focus on.
Just my opinion, IF the Republican Party runs Trump, they lose. The White House definitely needs to change, and Biden & company are basically handing it over to the Rs, unless they run Trump. He's too divisive and that's obvious.
Well, here is what I think. I think it is way, way, way less a divisiveness that originates with Pres Trump. The divisiveness is the democrats and the deep state. More divisive than the left in control of our government? I don't get it, Bob - polls say about 70% or 80% or more, believe we are headed in the WRONG direction.
After the fake hillary/dnc/fbi/doj dishonest FAKE Trump/Russia Collusion farce, the face NY prosecution that went nowhere officially, the impeachment where even vindman admitted he lied, others lied, after comey leaked a dossier they KNEW was not established as legit to the NY newspaper, as he ADMITTED - just to get a prosecution of Trump, after the fbi LIED TO THE FISA COURT, after the doj and fbi refused to investigate hillary for destroying all those documents and phones AFTER THEY WERE SUBPOENAed....after all the leftwing media waged a phony war against Pres Trump, after brennan of the cia disgraced himself, after peter "dick" strzok and lisa page did fake crap towards Pres Trump to KEEP HIM from getting elected, etc, after Klinesmith of the fbi was found to be the one that forged changes to a document to incriminate Pres Trump falsely, after they got Manafort for "lies to the fbi" and put him in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for A YEAR, after comey LIED openly to Congress, after chrissy deep state mafia wray declared to congress that the fbi has "limited resources" to explain why they let hillary go scot free.....after bidne/obaMao and co OPENED our borders to fentanyl, terrorists, and millions of illegals.....
you want to say Pres TRUMP is DIVISIVE?
He is extremely controversial - some of it his own fault, but most of it is fabricated and spawned by the leftwing media, deep state, fbi, doj,
America was doing GREAT under PRes Trump. We were getting extremely divisive under obaMao. and under biden, America is screwed with a democrat congress.
Personally, I hope Desantis runs instead, but the leftist/now stalinist democrats will do al lthe same crap to him.
the fbi violated our Constitution in the dirty corrupt raid on Pres Trump's home. If they ban AR-15s whatever else - it is in violation of our Constitution/Bill of Rights. The deep state/stalinist left weaponizing the fbi, doj, irs, dhs, epa to harass and ruin convervative groups......
you have biden and the left criminaliizing parents for speaking out against CRT.
etc etc etc.
Come on, Bob. I don't get it. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure it isn't.
Well, here is what I think. I think it is way, way, way less a divisiveness that originates with Pres Trump. The divisiveness is the democrats and the deep state. More divisive than the left in control of our government? I don't get it, Bob - polls say about 70% or 80% or more, believe we are headed in the WRONG direction.
After the fake hillary/dnc/fbi/doj dishonest FAKE Trump/Russia Collusion farce, the face NY prosecution that went nowhere officially, the impeachment where even vindman admitted he lied, others lied, after comey leaked a dossier they KNEW was not established as legit to the NY newspaper, as he ADMITTED - just to get a prosecution of Trump, after the fbi LIED TO THE FISA COURT, after the doj and fbi refused to investigate hillary for destroying all those documents and phones AFTER THEY WERE SUBPOENAed....after all the leftwing media waged a phony war against Pres Trump, after brennan of the cia disgraced himself, after peter "dick" strzok and lisa page did fake crap towards Pres Trump to KEEP HIM from getting elected, etc, after Klinesmith of the fbi was found to be the one that forged changes to a document to incriminate Pres Trump falsely, after they got Manafort for "lies to the fbi" and put him in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for A YEAR, after comey LIED openly to Congress, after chrissy deep state mafia wray declared to congress that the fbi has "limited resources" to explain why they let hillary go scot free.....after bidne/obaMao and co OPENED our borders to fentanyl, terrorists, and millions of illegals.....
you want to say Pres TRUMP is DIVISIVE?
He is extremely controversial - some of it his own fault, but most of it is fabricated and spawned by the leftwing media, deep state, fbi, doj,
America was doing GREAT under PRes Trump. We were getting extremely divisive under obaMao. and under biden, America is screwed with a democrat congress.
Personally, I hope Desantis runs instead, but the leftist/now stalinist democrats will do al lthe same crap to him.
the fbi violated our Constitution in the dirty corrupt raid on Pres Trump's home. If they ban AR-15s whatever else - it is in violation of our Constitution/Bill of Rights. The deep state/stalinist left weaponizing the fbi, doj, irs, dhs, epa to harass and ruin convervative groups......
you have biden and the left criminaliizing parents for speaking out against CRT.
etc etc etc.
Come on, Bob. I don't get it. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure it isn't.
Good points. I'd just like to say that when Trump insulted Megyn Kelly, he started to dig his own grave. Attacking a media member, especially a FOX News one, started an avalanche.
Trump has value- would he be willing to take a cabinet post...Dept of Commerce? That's where he probably belongs. Aiding the govt- his economic policies seemed to be fine.
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Oh yes he is divisive. And I wish he would leave the stage. But he would absolutely win the nomination in the first place. Why? Because the field is going to be packed with a big bunch of Rinos some of which running with a conservative agenda DeSantis OR running just out of Trump hate. Like Liz Chaney the two opposite type of republicans. And they will split up the vote between five or six week candidates. The only guy unlike the rest of the pack will be Donald Trump. Just like last time. As to whether he'd win the presidency I disagree with you Bob, hard to tell what the country is going to look like in 24. But if the Democrats think Joe Biden is going to be any sharper than he is after 4 years in office I think they are dreaming.
By the way Bob it's always a pleasure discussing things with you we might not be supporters of the same party but I think you try to see the other side if possible.
WSS
WSS, agree.
FYI- I unregistered as Dem January 22nd 2021, after Biden signed all those Executive Orders.
The Dems kind of lost me, (probably many others) mainly due to a too far-left campaign. I honestly don't recall them touting union rights/working rights (important to me).
This administration seems to be the worst in my lifetime (I'm 59). Combine that with a lame Congress & lobbyists, it's gridlock city in DC.
What we Americans need, and who knows if it's possible in today's divisive political arena, is some candidate to unite us....think about it, it seems there's been investigations into our Presidents or Presidential candidates since Reagan left office. A total negative vibe for nearly 40 years.
WSS, agree.
FYI- I unregistered as Dem January 22nd 2021, after Biden signed all those Executive Orders.
The Dems kind of lost me, (probably many others) mainly due to a too far-left campaign. I honestly don't recall them touting union rights/working rights (important to me).
This administration seems to be the worst in my lifetime (I'm 59). Combine that with a lame Congress & lobbyists, it's gridlock city in DC.
What we Americans need, and who knows if it's possible in today's divisive political arena, is some candidate to unite us....think about it, it seems there's been investigations into our Presidents or Presidential candidates since Reagan left office. A total negative vibe for nearly 40 years.
I alienated myself from the Democratic Party when the Dems steamrolled Obamacare up our collective asses. Then Pelosi said smugly that if you want to find out what’s in the Bill….vote for it.
That’s not the way a Constitutional Congress operates.
My healthcare premiums went from $225 per month to over $600.
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