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Preseason Game 3: Bears at Browns August 27

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  • @orion said:

    ...was at a party.  How did Brissett look?

    Brissett looked okay, but Dobbs looked much better in the time he got (which is too little IMO) Would be my vote to start. Bell had a few nice catches. 

    More concerning was the defense looking underwhelming, but with the elite starters off the field there is room for improvement there. Emerson looked pretty good. Having 3, possibly 4 quality CBs on the squad is nice in this day and age.

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Brissett looked okay, but Dobbs looked much better in the time he got (which is too little IMO) Would be my vote to start. Bell had a few nice catches. 

    More concerning was the defense looking underwhelming, but with the elite starters off the field there is room for improvement there. Emerson looked pretty good. Having 3, possibly 4 quality CBs on the squad is nice in this day and age.

    I agree.  Dobbs should be given the chance to start.  He seems to give a spark to the team and the crowd.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Yep.

    He might be a great athlete, but he sucks as a football player.

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    @gumby73 said:

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    Well then you have to carry an extra WR.  You cannot count on him unless you don’t value your job. 

  • I'll get to some highs & lows later... But

    Chris Rose..Aditi Kinkhabwala with Joe Thomas were a amazing fun team listen to call the Browns preseason games this season...

    Let's hope they get a return call for next season

    ? Job Well Done Crew !

     
     

    @gumby73 said:

    I'll get to some highs & lows later... But

    Chris Rose..Aditi Kinkhabwala with Joe Thomas were a amazing fun team listen to call the Browns preseason games this season...

    Let's hope they get a return call for next season

    ? Job Well Done Crew !

     
     

    Dobbs, York, Emerson and the crew.  I’m out of positives this preseason.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Yep.

    He might be a great athlete, but he sucks as a football player.

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    @gumby73 said:

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    Well then you have to carry an extra WR.  You cannot count on him unless you don’t value your job. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Well then you have to carry an extra WR.  You cannot count on him unless you don’t value your job. 

    why don't we see more of felton at wr I mean i really do not remember him dropping the ball when thrown to

  • @gumby73 said:

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

    @flugel said:

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

    100% agree. Bottom line is if the light hasn’t come on for catching the ball by now it likely won’t. He was atrocious last night. So bad you can’t really assess how Brissett did. 

  • I'm probably in the minority here but I think Rosen played well with the little time he was given. Made a couple of nice throws on the run, didn't turn the ball over. I thought he played better than Brisket that's for sure. I think Rosen would thrive in our offense with the weapons we have. Hard to do anything when he's throwing to guys that probably won't be on the team in two weeks.

  • @gumby73 said:

    #Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski on Anthony Schwartz's struggles..
    "He's very accountable...he wants to be better....will work very hard." Is he in danger of being cut? "No."  ?‍♂️
     
    Translation...  Then Berry better find a upgraded WR3 and slide Sch-ure Stonehand's backwards

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

    @flugel said:

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

    The problem is, I'd do backflips if Schwartz could develop in the Michael (Dyson for one game) Jackson category. That's how far he is at this point to that. 

    I'm probably being naive, but I still would be somewhat surprised if he doesn't get cut, but you are probably correct - they aren't cutting the string with a second year 3rd round pick of theirs. (Now, if someone else had drafted him, absolutely)

  • ...didn't see the game.  How bad was Schwartz?  Did he drop any easy passes?

  • I think Kevvy did the kid a disservice by basically covering for his ass... He should've said the kid needs to work harder... I guess the thing that sucks for Schwartz is his confidence is shot... On the other hand... I think he's garbage talent... It's sad the kid has world class speed... And can't even catch a cold...

  • ...didn't see the game.  How bad was Schwartz?  Did he drop any easy passes?

    @orion said:

    ...didn't see the game.  How bad was Schwartz?  Did he drop any easy passes?

    Dropped 6 passes

  • @orion said:

    ...didn't see the game.  How bad was Schwartz?  Did he drop any easy passes?

    Dropped 6 passes

    @nickers said:

    Dropped 6 passes

    A Div II College team would place him on the bench at that rate. Cut him lose.

  • Everybody talks about Shwartz's world class speed, has it ever helped the Browns? Every time I see him do a jet sweep or reverse he doesn't go far. Has he returned kickoffs or punts for touchdowns? I think it's time to move on. No need to keep a fast guy if he can't put that speed to use. Maybe convert to DB??‍♂️

  • I wonder what the Jets would take to get Mims off their hands...

  • @orion said:

    ...didn't see the game.  How bad was Schwartz?  Did he drop any easy passes?

    Dropped 6 passes

    @nickers said:

    Dropped 6 passes

    The Ball is my friend!!!

  • N Neo

    Everybody talks about Shwartz's world class speed, has it ever helped the Browns? Every time I see him do a jet sweep or reverse he doesn't go far. Has he returned kickoffs or punts for touchdowns? I think it's time to move on. No need to keep a fast guy if he can't put that speed to use. Maybe convert to DB??‍♂️

    @neo said:

    Everybody talks about Shwartz's world class speed, has it ever helped the Browns? Every time I see him do a jet sweep or reverse he doesn't go far. Has he returned kickoffs or punts for touchdowns? I think it's time to move on. No need to keep a fast guy if he can't put that speed to use. Maybe convert to DB??‍♂️

    Chiefs Browns Week 1 he got behind the defense…we’ve had a handful of end arounds to him the past Year plus- were Any of those meaningful plays - 10 plus yards? I don’t think so. 

  • @flugel said:

    Unfortunately, I think Berry is the problem here.  He's probably challenging the coaching staff with it's up to you guys to develop the player.  The PROBLEM is some guys just aren't football players regardless of how fast they are.   One thing I'd like to see for a refreshing change in Cleveland is to see a GM finally admit a choice like this was a bad idea. 

    Sticking with a bad idea for way too long at WR (Michael Jackson) is how a guy like Keenan McCardell doesn't emerge as a highly efficient WR until he lands on his next team (Jax Jaguars) 1 year later.  Michael Jackson ran 4.3s but dropped way too many passes when he wide open.  Then he'd explicably make a tough catch in traffic once in a while.

    I'd rather have the Browns continue their efforts with developing DPJ than waste too much more time on Schwartz.  

    The problem is, I'd do backflips if Schwartz could develop in the Michael (Dyson for one game) Jackson category. That's how far he is at this point to that. 

    I'm probably being naive, but I still would be somewhat surprised if he doesn't get cut, but you are probably correct - they aren't cutting the string with a second year 3rd round pick of theirs. (Now, if someone else had drafted him, absolutely)

    @dutch-oven said:

    The problem is, I'd do backflips if Schwartz could develop in the Michael (Dyson for one game) Jackson category. That's how far he is at this point to that. 

    I'm probably being naive, but I still would be somewhat surprised if he doesn't get cut, but you are probably correct - they aren't cutting the string with a second year 3rd round pick of theirs. (Now, if someone else had drafted him, absolutely)

    Well said Dutch!

    As a fan, I'm looking at it like if Schwartz couldn't make any other rosters in the AFC North - he shouldn't be making this roster if it has playoff aspirations.  The only type of roster that should be interested in Schwartz at this point would be one unofficially planning to earn the 1st overall pick in Seattle. 

    Hearing Stefanski come to Schwartz's rescue, makes me think Berry has already been in his ear with "this is why you're our guy Kevin"  type of UH-OH!  Hope I'm wrong.

    The sad thing in all is I don't think it's a lack of effort from Schwartz and he's probably a really likable kid.  This poor guy just looks like he plays with his eyes closed; and he has zero feel for the game.  If the Browns are going to return to drafting these kinds of guys - we're all wasting serious time here.  Maybe we should be watching lost episodes of the Mandrell Sisters with Ghoolie.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The problem is, I'd do backflips if Schwartz could develop in the Michael (Dyson for one game) Jackson category. That's how far he is at this point to that. 

    I'm probably being naive, but I still would be somewhat surprised if he doesn't get cut, but you are probably correct - they aren't cutting the string with a second year 3rd round pick of theirs. (Now, if someone else had drafted him, absolutely)

    Well said Dutch!

    As a fan, I'm looking at it like if Schwartz couldn't make any other rosters in the AFC North - he shouldn't be making this roster if it has playoff aspirations.  The only type of roster that should be interested in Schwartz at this point would be one unofficially planning to earn the 1st overall pick in Seattle. 

    Hearing Stefanski come to Schwartz's rescue, makes me think Berry has already been in his ear with "this is why you're our guy Kevin"  type of UH-OH!  Hope I'm wrong.

    The sad thing in all is I don't think it's a lack of effort from Schwartz and he's probably a really likable kid.  This poor guy just looks like he plays with his eyes closed; and he has zero feel for the game.  If the Browns are going to return to drafting these kinds of guys - we're all wasting serious time here.  Maybe we should be watching lost episodes of the Mandrell Sisters with Ghoolie.  

    @flugel said:

    The sad thing in all is I don't think it's a lack of effort

    He can't catch, his speed doesn't translate into good things for the Browns, and he is pretty much the sole reason Baker is playing for Carolina. I don't think there has ever been more of a reason to cut a player. 

  • I wonder what the Jets would take to get Mims off their hands...

    @tiamat63 said:

    I wonder what the Jets would take to get Mims off their hands...

    You got 4 guys on our roster not counting Cooper and DPJ that have shown more than Schwartz 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I wonder what the Jets would take to get Mims off their hands...

    You got 4 guys on our roster not counting Cooper and DPJ that have shown more than Schwartz 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    You got 4 guys on our roster not counting Cooper and DPJ that have shown more than Schwartz 

    My comment had little to do with a direct Schwartz comparison = value and more of just pointing out the overall talent and ability of the WR room in general at this moment.