ESPN: How Many Preseason Snaps is Enough?
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I think the premise is true. The Browns QB's had too few snaps. I suspect Mangini knew who would win, and that's why he kept saying the seperation would eventually come, and it did indeed happen. However it meant that whomever he started on opening day wouldn't have their very best game.
The 2 Questions are:
1.) Was the competition an example of planning for next season, and the second half of this season?
2.) With having a competition that was settled late, had Mangini already labeled the Vikings game as a likely loss?
If one answers "Yes" to one or both questions then the competition makes perfect sense. If he's only thinking of the here and now, then it would make him an idiot to screw both QB's with fewer snaps.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=4462464
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Tell you what, Manwagoners, when Quinn throws 4 picks in a game, I'll consider listening to you. When Quinn throws a pick 6 to a MIDDLE LINEBACKER, maybe I'll listen to you, when Quinn rifles a pass into triple coverage, I'll think about listening to you. But only then because that's the outstanding play we've become accustomed to from DA that you guys conveniently gloss over in every thread.
Until then, you're doing nothing but bashing THE CLEVELAND BROWNS STARTING QUARTERBACK.
Which officially makes you the enemy, in my book.
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I think the premise is true. The Browns QB's had too few snaps. I suspect Mangini knew who would win, and that's why he kept saying the seperation would eventually come, and it did indeed happen. However it meant that whomever he started on opening day wouldn't have their very best game.
The 2 Questions are:
1.) Was the competition an example of planning for next season, and the second half of this season?
2.) With having a competition that was settled late, had Mangini already labeled the Vikings game as a likely loss?
If one answers "Yes" to one or both questions then the competition makes perfect sense. If he's only thinking of the here and now, then it would make him an idiot to screw both QB's with fewer snaps.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=4462464
I think the premise is true. The Browns QB's had too few snaps. I suspect Mangini knew who would win, and that's why he kept saying the seperation would eventually come, and it did indeed happen. However it meant that whomever he started on opening day wouldn't have their very best game.
The 2 Questions are:
1.) Was the competition an example of planning for next season, and the second half of this season?
2.) With having a competition that was settled late, had Mangini already labeled the Vikings game as a likely loss?
If one answers "Yes" to one or both questions then the competition makes perfect sense. If he's only thinking of the here and now, then it would make him an idiot to screw both QB's with fewer snaps.
now that's a example of winning football if i've ever seen one.
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to me, this is much ado about nothing. 30 snaps is not going to make THAT BIG of a difference. If by snap 40 you haven't already established a rhythm...what makes you think an addition 30 is going to substantially change that?
The thing is, those are just the LIVE snaps. It doesn't include all the snaps in 11 on 11 drills and all the other drills they had. That 30 'missed' snaps is such a small thing to me.
Besides, Quinn completed 67% of his passes in pre-season. That is a good number. If he had completed say 57% (hello DA) and had missed the 30 snaps...THEN I would be worried.
You don't complete 67% of your passes if you don't have timing and chemistry with the recievers...(and none of that 'short passes only' crap...DA was throwing those too and still got 57%)
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Sorry, but this whole preseason has been too much about the QB competition. I know the NFL is a QB driven league but there's something called a team that wins and loses. It isn't all about the QB.
You have to have players around you to succeed. For those who think a lack of reps with the first team should be an excuse then please rewind to Cassel and every other backup that has come in and been sucessful in the NFL.
Sometimes it is more about the talent around the QB then the QB.
If the defense can't get the other team off the field and the QB is always taking the offense and trying to come from behind, can you expect great results from a QB?
Let's get real, neither DA or Quinn are taking this team to the super bowl this year and it didn't matter how many reps they got in preseason.
So, are they preping for next year...........................hell yes. They need to know if they have a franchise QB or if they need to draft one in April. They already knew what DA could do, know they need to find out about Quinn.
There is too much of a disparity of talent for this team to compete with the Pitts and Balt's of the AFC North. Let's hope this year provides a solid foundation for the team to move forward.
If you are going to piss and moan after every loss and blame it on either QB, then you some serious meds because there will be a bunch of losses this year. This is a year of evaluation and to see just where this franchise is at. It isn't all about who the QB is.
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Sorry, but this whole preseason has been too much about the QB competition. I know the NFL is a QB driven league but there's something called a team that wins and loses. It isn't all about the QB.
You have to have players around you to succeed. For those who think a lack of reps with the first team should be an excuse then please rewind to Cassel and every other backup that has come in and been sucessful in the NFL.
Sometimes it is more about the talent around the QB then the QB.
If the defense can't get the other team off the field and the QB is always taking the offense and trying to come from behind, can you expect great results from a QB?
Let's get real, neither DA or Quinn are taking this team to the super bowl this year and it didn't matter how many reps they got in preseason.
So, are they preping for next year...........................hell yes. They need to know if they have a franchise QB or if they need to draft one in April. They already knew what DA could do, know they need to find out about Quinn.
There is too much of a disparity of talent for this team to compete with the Pitts and Balt's of the AFC North. Let's hope this year provides a solid foundation for the team to move forward.
If you are going to piss and moan after every loss and blame it on either QB, then you some serious meds because there will be a bunch of losses this year. This is a year of evaluation and to see just where this franchise is at. It isn't all about who the QB is.
If you are going to piss and moan after every loss and blame it on either QB, then you some serious meds because there will be a bunch of losses this year. This is a year of evaluation and to see just where this franchise is at. It isn't all about who the QB is.
And this is exaclty how I am going to watch the games this season, in evauation mode. I agree with everything you said and whie I also have gotten caught up in the QB issue, I know that it is much more about team than 1 player.
Good point about Cassel. That shoots to shit the theory that Quinn needed all those snaps.
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Favre will have likley had about 200 less snaps than quinn this preseason. I don't see anyone making excuses for him, he has a torn labrum in his shoulder, no excuses made..he's ready and he's playing.
Quinn is a pro football player..he does not need a million reps to get ready.. Why worry about something that is in the past and you cannot change.. He's had enough reps.. good grief..These guys have been practcing together since spring. Seriously this is dumb.. how many backups come into a game out of nowhere midway through the season and play great.. history show's there have been plenty... The don't say "well coach I don't think I'm ready even though the starter has a broken leg, cuz I have only worked with the practice squad the first 8 weeks of the season" ... No ..they go play.. Quinn has been preparing to start from day one.. Man this post really pisses me off.
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