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  • Osiris OsirisO Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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    This is what you get when your secondary players are out with injuries at various times throughout the preseason. 

    This is what you get when you don't play your starting defense, especially the DBs, as a unit during preseason. 

    We got a pre-season performance from players who didn't play in the preseason because the coaches are too scared of injury. Joe Woods should've recognized that and played way more man-to-man coverage until the communications issues are resolved.

    I don't blame Chubb for scoring that last TD. Coach should've told him not to. I don't blame York for missing the XP. That's going to happen, especially with a rookie. This is 100% on the coaches, Stefanski, Woods, and Priefer. They didn't give the starters enough reps in the preseason, they didn't prepare the team well enough to handle fake punts and onsides kicks. They need to do better.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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      Put simply, there's less than zero excuse for a dude being WIDE OPEN like Corey Davis was on the TD before the onside disaster. You can at least live with a great play or missed tackle (a la the Vikings in the playoffs a while back) but no one was even in the zip code. If the guys in the secondary can't have the common sense to do that (as we've seen two weeks in a row) it's time to make personnel changes.

      Very glad it's a short week and all the other AFC North teams lost (to include an epic meltdown by the Ravens, too). 

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        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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        I put it all on Stef and Woods... 3x's at least I saw guys in our secondary standing around confused with 0 clue what to do... I saw them stand there and watch guys go by with the football... This team is very undisciplined right now...

        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          The Browns have such a great serious lot of talent everywhere - I think the near loss first week,

          and this last one - could just be the distraction of the sleazeball twatson saga. I figure there are a lot

          of guys on the Browns - really decent dudes - who have family members rejecting the worst trade in Browns history...

          and some will wonder about laying their bodies on the line out there, when that qb got a historically highest guaranteed salary, and 3 first round draft picks .... losing to the jets - was just awful.

          Just a guess.

          But man, our kicker is AWESOME !

          I will also say - that of all the players I always admired - like Clay Mathews, Hanford Dixon, Kosar, Sipe, Newsome, Leroy Kelly, the Pruitts, Dieken, Milt Morin, Lou Groza, Bill Nelson...... ...etc etc etc etc ...

          Joe Thomas is at the top of that list. Congrats to him.

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            FIRE JOE WOODS NOW!!!!!!!

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            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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            @browns149 said:

            FIRE JOE WOODS NOW!!!!!!!

            But the problem is, replace him with who? 

            I've calmed down a bit, it was a near unrepeatable fluke to blow that game. The stat nerds looked it up. You'd have to go back over 2,000 games where a team was up two scores, two minutes left, and the other team with no time outs and manage to  lose.  🙁

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              Lots of different reasons add up to a loss.

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                Lots of different reasons add up to a loss.

                WSS

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                Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                Lots of different reasons add up to a loss.

                WSS

                True, but the thing that gets me fired up is the offense did about as well as they could have. Brissett was nearly flawless ( INT at the end in desperation time).

                Let's hope they get after Mitch Thurs, forget that soft zone D is a major disappointment now.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Lots of different reasons add up to a loss.

                  WSS

                  True, but the thing that gets me fired up is the offense did about as well as they could have. Brissett was nearly flawless ( INT at the end in desperation time).

                  Let's hope they get after Mitch Thurs, forget that soft zone D is a major disappointment now.

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                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                  @bob806 said:

                  True, but the thing that gets me fired up is the offense did about as well as they could have. Brissett was nearly flawless ( INT at the end in desperation time).

                  Let's hope they get after Mitch Thurs, forget that soft zone D is a major disappointment now.

                  The one thing I wish Stefanski would do as a Head Coach (not to be confused with OC) is make sure the other 2 Phases of the game have a sound game plan with everyone on the same page.  They were not and that is a BIG part of the Head Coach's job.  The blind eye to them haunted the Browns.  

                  I don't want to fire any coach 2 weeks into the season.  But, Bill Parcels wouldn't hesitate to get all over the even best DC in the business (BB) back in the day if he felt something was wrong or could be wrong very shortly.  He was well versed on what was going on with all 3 of his phases/Coordinators.  

                  I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Lots of different reasons add up to a loss.

                    WSS

                    True, but the thing that gets me fired up is the offense did about as well as they could have. Brissett was nearly flawless ( INT at the end in desperation time).

                    Let's hope they get after Mitch Thurs, forget that soft zone D is a major disappointment now.

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                    @bob806 said:

                    True, but the thing that gets me fired up is the offense did about as well as they could have. Brissett was nearly flawless ( INT at the end in desperation time).

                    Let's hope they get after Mitch Thurs, forget that soft zone D is a major disappointment now.

                    That's why it's not a good idea to wet your pants over the team when it's only on paper. We've done that the last couple of years. And after a loss everybody naturally wants to point the finger at somebody. And who knows about reality once Watson gets back as long as we can keep him out of the massage parlors till then.

                    But I thought the offense did better than expected. At least with Jacoby at the helm.

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                      @browns149 said:

                      FIRE JOE WOODS NOW!!!!!!!

                      But the problem is, replace him with who? 

                      I've calmed down a bit, it was a near unrepeatable fluke to blow that game. The stat nerds looked it up. You'd have to go back over 2,000 games where a team was up two scores, two minutes left, and the other team with no time outs and manage to  lose.  🙁

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                      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                      @hoorta said:

                      But the problem is, replace him with who? 

                      I've calmed down a bit, it was a near unrepeatable fluke to blow that game. The stat nerds looked it up. You'd have to go back over 2,000 games where a team was up two scores, two minutes left, and the other team with no time outs and manage to  lose.  🙁

                      And amazingly but in no way surprising, the last team to do it was also the Cleveland Browns in 2001.

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                        Browns secondary blows. 

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                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                        @bob806 said:

                        Browns secondary blows. 

                        Oh BTW just for the record Sibera Time is about  14 or 15  hours away from EDT.  I'd say our secondary is about that far off.....in coverage or tackling on key plays at least.

                        Check it out on the replay if you want to.     😕    

                        ..... edit add,  while you're at it look how tiny the Ukraine (David) is compared to that massive Russia is (Goliath).  Yet the Ukrainians are currently kicking their butt.  I thought as a Ukrainian that is kind of cool.   😁

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                          I failed in world mapping ? ^^

                          But if i had to guess? Camp Berea-stan😉, should be a small village town of idiots, just outside that Russian Lake, surrounded by stans ..

                          maybe a good Haslam-stan Flying J is in Jimmy's future ?

                          No worries ! I'll be sober by TNF   ? 

                          Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                            I failed in world mapping ? ^^

                            But if i had to guess? Camp Berea-stan😉, should be a small village town of idiots, just outside that Russian Lake, surrounded by stans ..

                            maybe a good Haslam-stan Flying J is in Jimmy's future ?

                            No worries ! I'll be sober by TNF   ? 

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                            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                            @gumby73 said:

                            I failed in world mapping ? ^^

                            But if i had to guess? Camp Berea-stan😉, should be a small village town of idiots, just outside that Russian Lake, surrounded by stans ..

                            maybe a good Haslam-stan Flying J is in Jimmy's future ?

                            No worries ! I'll be sober by TNF   ? 

                            Send those DB’s to the Gulag!

                            Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                              @gumby73 said:

                              I failed in world mapping ? ^^

                              But if i had to guess? Camp Berea-stan😉, should be a small village town of idiots, just outside that Russian Lake, surrounded by stans ..

                              maybe a good Haslam-stan Flying J is in Jimmy's future ?

                              No worries ! I'll be sober by TNF   ? 

                              Send those DB’s to the Gulag!

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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                              @canton-dawg said:

                              Send those DB’s to the Gulag!

                              they'd be misinformed & missing in action there too😉

                              Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                Seems about right. . .

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                                • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

                                  Seems about right. . .

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                                  nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                  @canton-dawg said:

                                  Seems about right. . .

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                                  True!!

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                                    Seems about right. . .

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                                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                    @canton-dawg said:

                                    Seems about right. . .

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                                    Sounds right.  When we watch depressants - we drink depressants.    

                                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                      @canton-dawg said:

                                      Seems about right. . .

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                                      Sounds right.  When we watch depressants - we drink depressants.    

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                                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                      @flugel said:

                                      Sounds right.  When we watch depressants - we drink depressants.    

                                      I would re-edit this to Cleveland Makes Me Drink MORE!!!

                                      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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