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  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    ...but analytics didn't tell us to run a slow developing run play on 4th and 2 feet.

    At the end of the game, when the Chargers coach tried to lose the game by using his book of analytics, we should've thrown in the middle of the field on 2nd down.  We could then spike the ball for the go ahead FG.  Instead we had 3rd down with 20 seconds left.  At that point I was thinking, "We're gonna have a hard time getting our FG unit on the field with any time on the clock if we don't get OB."

    The Chargers coach did not deserve walking off that field with a win.  He made a dumb call that should've cost him the game.

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    ...but analytics didn't tell us to run a slow developing run play on 4th and 2 feet.

    At the end of the game, when the Chargers coach tried to lose the game by using his book of analytics, we should've thrown in the middle of the field on 2nd down.  We could then spike the ball for the go ahead FG.  Instead we had 3rd down with 20 seconds left.  At that point I was thinking, "We're gonna have a hard time getting our FG unit on the field with any time on the clock if we don't get OB."

    The Chargers coach did not deserve walking off that field with a win.  He made a dumb call that should've cost him the game.

    @orion said:

    ...but analytics didn't tell us to run a slow developing run play on 4th and 2 feet.

    At the end of the game, when the Chargers coach tried to lose the game by using his book of analytics, we should've thrown in the middle of the field on 2nd down.  We could then spike the ball for the go ahead FG.  Instead we had 3rd down with 20 seconds left.  At that point I was thinking, "We're gonna have a hard time getting our FG unit on the field with any time on the clock if we don't get OB."

    The Chargers coach did not deserve walking off that field with a win.  He made a dumb call that should've cost him the game.

    Staley knows the Browns always find a way to BLOW IT! That's the real "analytics".

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  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    ...but analytics didn't tell us to run a slow developing run play on 4th and 2 feet.

    At the end of the game, when the Chargers coach tried to lose the game by using his book of analytics, we should've thrown in the middle of the field on 2nd down.  We could then spike the ball for the go ahead FG.  Instead we had 3rd down with 20 seconds left.  At that point I was thinking, "We're gonna have a hard time getting our FG unit on the field with any time on the clock if we don't get OB."

    The Chargers coach did not deserve walking off that field with a win.  He made a dumb call that should've cost him the game.

    @orion said:

    The Chargers coach did not deserve walking off that field with a win.  He made a dumb call that should've cost him the game.

    But he found himself up against the ultimate dick-trippers....us. And he couldn't lose, regardless of how hard he tried. 

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Totally meaningless.

    Not totally.

    We've waited a long long time to say " Pittsburgh sucks " and for it to be true.

    There's no doubt anymore. They really do suck. Pretty bad. Thank you God!

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Stefanski said in his post game interview.......

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    Essentially, ShitMyPantski is saying that his gut, his instincts, his experience means nothing and are not used at all in the Browns playing.

    Of what fucking use is this guy? If analytics dictates what the team does, why the fuck even have a Head Coach? I mean if he is running the team off of a pre-planned sheet, and the team.is missing tackles, making penalties, and basically playing like a picnic team, what the fuck does this cocksucker actually.do with his time?

    By the way, the analytics are 2-3.

    And when he ignores his analytics he screws up. Brissett bats almost 1,000 on short quarterback sneaks, so let's let Chubb get stuffed for a loss instead. 

    BTW, I've noticed too the Browns are great at missing tackles that are resulting in long gains. 

  • I still can't discuss the game maturely. I'll be back tomorrow. ?

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Stefanski said in his post game interview.......

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    Essentially, ShitMyPantski is saying that his gut, his instincts, his experience means nothing and are not used at all in the Browns playing.

    Of what fucking use is this guy? If analytics dictates what the team does, why the fuck even have a Head Coach? I mean if he is running the team off of a pre-planned sheet, and the team.is missing tackles, making penalties, and basically playing like a picnic team, what the fuck does this cocksucker actually.do with his time?

    By the way, the analytics are 2-3.

    True, but the analytics don't tell JB to throw the INT instead of runnin

    g for an apparent first down. Analytics are their to suggest, and have some merit. The other side of the coin is execution, and that's been the hardest part for this team and season, especially on D.

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Stefanski said in his post game interview.......

    "We live or die by the analytics"

    Essentially, ShitMyPantski is saying that his gut, his instincts, his experience means nothing and are not used at all in the Browns playing.

    Of what fucking use is this guy? If analytics dictates what the team does, why the fuck even have a Head Coach? I mean if he is running the team off of a pre-planned sheet, and the team.is missing tackles, making penalties, and basically playing like a picnic team, what the fuck does this cocksucker actually.do with his time?

    By the way, the analytics are 2-3.

    And when he ignores his analytics he screws up. Brissett bats almost 1,000 on short quarterback sneaks, so let's let Chubb get stuffed for a loss instead. 

    BTW, I've noticed too the Browns are great at missing tackles that are resulting in long gains. 

    @hoorta said:

    And when he ignores his analytics he screws up. Brissett bats almost 1,000 on short quarterback sneaks, so let's let Chubb get stuffed for a loss instead. 

    BTW, I've noticed too the Browns are great at missing tackles that are resulting in long gains. 

    Execution. Analytics can't fix that. Coaches try and the players have to make the effort to improve. Tackling is a talent that can be learned and improved. If guys are constantly missing those tackles, move on. 

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    but these bizarre calls? That isn't the coach, that is Depo and his analytics.

    ...and this is a fair theory that the back of my mind has been entertaining.  How much, if any, is the gameday analytical 4th down calls mandated from the top?  

    Stef usually maintains the standard answers that maintain the company line and don't really tell you anything.  But by saying, "We live and die with analytics", is that his way of saying, "Hey, that's how they want it done.  I just work here."?

  • How about that Kicker??

  • How about that Kicker??

    @kvoethe said:

    How about that Kicker??

    One of these days one of the Chargers kickers will be available.  

    Or maybe when the Lake Erie winds start to blow it'll blow his kicks right back through the uprights.

  • @kvoethe said:

    How about that Kicker??

    One of these days one of the Chargers kickers will be available.  

    Or maybe when the Lake Erie winds start to blow it'll blow his kicks right back through the uprights.

    @orion said:

    One of these days one of the Chargers kickers will be available.  

    Or maybe when the Lake Erie winds start to blow it'll blow his kicks right back through the uprights.

    Talk about from feast to famine after week 1.  Jesus.

  • https://www.yahoo.com/sports/keenan-allen-and-myles-garrett-both-disapproved-of-brandon-staleys-late-4th-down-gamble-wtf-are-we-doing-232839424.html

    Keenan Allen openly criticized Staley's stupid coaching decision and did so in real time, and apparently now our defense feels "disrespected"??

    ^ Poor little fellas. I hope they feel better soon. 

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Final consideration. Perhaps the players see and realize that ShitMyPantski is nothing more than Depo's coffee fetcher and figure, "fuck him, he's nobody"?

    Ya know, John Johnson got his 15 yard penalty for yelling something at an official while the official was talking to Stefanski.  Stef yelled out, "John!"...as the official was grabbing his flag out.

  • https://www.yahoo.com/sports/keenan-allen-and-myles-garrett-both-disapproved-of-brandon-staleys-late-4th-down-gamble-wtf-are-we-doing-232839424.html

    Keenan Allen openly criticized Staley's stupid coaching decision and did so in real time, and apparently now our defense feels "disrespected"??

    ^ Poor little fellas. I hope they feel better soon. 

    @d-bone said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/keenan-allen-and-myles-garrett-both-disapproved-of-brandon-staleys-late-4th-down-gamble-wtf-are-we-doing-232839424.html

    Keenan Allen openly criticized Staley's stupid coaching decision and did so in real time, and apparently now our defense feels "disrespected"??

    ^ Poor little fellas. I hope they feel better soon. 

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

  • @d-bone said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/keenan-allen-and-myles-garrett-both-disapproved-of-brandon-staleys-late-4th-down-gamble-wtf-are-we-doing-232839424.html

    Keenan Allen openly criticized Staley's stupid coaching decision and did so in real time, and apparently now our defense feels "disrespected"??

    ^ Poor little fellas. I hope they feel better soon. 

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

    A nice drive in the country will clear his head.

    Too soon?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

    A nice drive in the country will clear his head.

    Too soon?

    @d-bone said:

    A nice drive in the country will clear his head.

    Too soon?

    Not at all.  He needs to be held accountable for the safety of others and himself.

    He probably cost us a dub against the falcons too 

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    The crowd doesn’t like him being used as wet shit ass wipe toilet paper by a third string LT.

    I hear by name him Mild Garrett.

    He needs to shut his fucking mouth and start making plays. #1 my asshole.

    On the first series by the Chargers, their list of passing plays goes...

    101 - quarters     2 & hitch - Dragon (RB negative depth going flat)


    102-  cover 3      3 step - 13Fake setting up TE screen


    103 - Man          3 step -  Empty Mesh  Myles gets around corner, Herbert climbs vertical to escape.  Damn near a shoe string tackle/sack.

    104 - quarters      25 stretch at Myles, waggle AWAY away, X drag

    105 - Cover 3       5 step - Fake z bubble to HB delay. Mirrored hitch seams.    It's on this play that highlights the weakness of how we call/play Cover 3 and why the NFL is going more 2 high.

    106 - Cover 3       2 & hitch - Z choice.     Taki really starting to be expose the more teams throw on early downs.

    107 - Man 1         2 step -    slant/flat    (Good inside shade by Newsome here)

     The 2nd and 3rd series are similarly called by the Bolts.  It wasn't until later they felt comfortable going downfield after they had established a rock solid running game against our high school J.V. IDL.  

     This is indicative of 2 things. 

     - The Chargers being stubborn as a pass first team then realizing that the Browns interior is THAT damn bad.

     - Respecting the Browns edge rush (Myles) against their questionable tackles by setting up designs that get the ball out of Herberts hands VERY quickly, and allowing him to be a plus athlete to bail himself out.   Only once in 7 passing plays did they dial up a concept that would have gotten them 10 yards without anything after the catch.  And the only time they went empty sets, Garrett almost got the sack and forced one of the very best young QB's in the NFL to run for his life and create on his own.    So you're trying to avoid pressure by blocking it, and if you can't block it (Chargers couldn't) throwing out of it.  

     Myles' abilities were a big reason the Bolts went with a short passing game that played into the Browns defensive capabilities.  Once they figured out that even the shittiest rushing offense in the NFL can get it done on the ground, they were able to take more calculated shots off play action and edge pressure that can't just fly upfield out of running lanes.

     When you're talking football, it's important to actually be correct.   

  • @d-bone said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/keenan-allen-and-myles-garrett-both-disapproved-of-brandon-staleys-late-4th-down-gamble-wtf-are-we-doing-232839424.html

    Keenan Allen openly criticized Staley's stupid coaching decision and did so in real time, and apparently now our defense feels "disrespected"??

    ^ Poor little fellas. I hope they feel better soon. 

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Garrett doesn’t like the home crowd booing as well.

    Well, I guess he can get into golf then.  I don't think they allow much of that from the audience.  

    When the team does well, you'll get cheers.  But when a team does bad...for 20 years or so...the people in the stands who spend a ton of money to be there...and didn't get to mow their lawns...are gonna boo ya.