??Official Game Day Thread NE Pats vs Your Cleveland Browns??
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Tia, I enjoy your understanding and passion for the Browns and for football.
I share your understanding that talent, passion, innovation and smarts are not talents given only to the Browns.
I always warn and advise, "ordinary people are capable of extraordinary things".
However, here is something for you to also consider. With the Brownsore often than not, it is the opposition's guys, and not ours doing the extraordinary things.
At some point our guys should be on top of some waves as opposed to always being on the bottom.
Guys here are frustrated because on the field we continually get outdone.
Something is not right w the Browns. Stefanski? Depo? I don't know but this team is in disarray.
People can spin it anyway they want. They can point out that the other team does this well or that well and not blame our team
But it’s almost ALWAYS our team that does the stupid things, or gets out played, out coached
When are we going to scheme a win, or game plan for the specific game we are playing and out coach someone?
It just never seems to happen
When are we going to scheme a win, or game plan for the specific game we are playing and out coach someone?
It just never seems to happen
Only seems to happen vs Cincy.
This was a truly embarrassing loss.
I've said it for years, the NFL comes down to winning at home, and stealing a division win or two on the road, plus draft well. We just can't seem to get it as an organization.
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24-34 309 yards 2 tds 118.4
Did we play against Joe Montana today?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
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ABSOLUTELY AWFUL PROFESIONAL FOOTBALL GAME.
DISGUSTING PERFORMANCE TODAY.
NO EXCUSES.
On the other hand GO GUARDIANS ! Just one win from a trip to the AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME !
Playing with an amazing never say die attitude and led by an amazing manager and awesome front office that’s known in the entire league as the BEST in the business at how they run the Indians now Guardians.
The Cleveland Browns specifically their owners should be ashamed of how bad they've screwed up running the entire organization since they have been in charge. Direct enough ? mjp.
.....edid add......Today's game was a prime example of what's going on.
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ABSOLUTELY AWFUL PROFESIONAL FOOTBALL GAME.
DISGUSTING PERFORMANCE TODAY.
NO EXCUSES.
The only word I'd change is PROFESSIONAL. Other than that, you got a Yahtzee!
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Sorry, but I lost interest in Cleveland baseball when the Dolan's caved and changed the Indians name. I can't support a "woke" ownership.
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It’s Josh Dobbs time
JB throwing INTs should distract us from a 4th round rookie QB absolutely tearing our secondary a new one. Woods needs to go!
JB throwing INTs should distract us from a 4th round rookie QB absolutely tearing our secondary a new one. Woods needs to go!
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one; but spot on!
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
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Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
Hmmm.
I don't believe in curses, but one must wonder how we went from turning the corner in 2018 to this.
I happen to think it's two things-A) the Browns can't get out of their own way and B the NFL doesn't want success here.
Regarding "B," once again our QB gets grabbed by the helmet today, no call. And how many times was Amari Cooper held or interfered with today?
Regarding "A" it appears that the NYJ & Jax have improved, while we stay mired in the muck. This SUCKS.
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At least the INT comes early this game
At least the INT comes early this game
There were plenty more after the first one. Not just Jacoby stunk.... That was an utter failure in all three phases.. Offense, defense, and special teams. Throw in bad coaching too... Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.
It's only the third time in attending probably 100+ Browns game I've ever walked out early. I only hope that total stink job by the Cleveland Clowns- er Browns has washed the bad karma out into the lake in time for the Guardians playoff game tonight.
Yeah, time to rack up- with a little lyric change of a Guns n Roses tune.... Welcome to the basement...
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Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
We are definitely cursed when I take my wife"The Curse" to a Browns game... The story is... the Browns 1986 playoff game against the Jets... When it was looking bleak She uses her ultimate whammy... "God, I don't care if I ever see the Browns win another game, as long as we win this one". Request granted... She didn't see the Browns win another game for 20+ years, and it was against the Jets. Seems the curse is still somewhat active, I had great confidence we were going to ruin a beautiful afternoon down by the lake.
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-time-kevin-stefanski-boss-203636369.html
Browns: It is time for Kevin Stefanski to be the boss
We are now six weeks into the season, and the Cleveland Browns are still making the same mistakes they made in Week 1. While the Browns do not want to make midseason changes to their coaching staff according to The OBR’s Brad Stainbrook, it is time for Kevin Stefanski to make the tough decisions a boss has to make.
There is little shot Stefanski gets fired as the offensive side of the football has been a bright spot (outside of today’s lemon of a game against the New England Patriots). Especially considering he is working with a journeyman backup quarterback who is starting to look like one again.
However, at the end of the day, his staff is a reflection of him. And while defensive coordinator Joe Woods and special teams coordinator Mike Priefer are personal friends of Stefanski, this train is too far off the rails to attempt to redeem.
Coming into this game against the Patriots, the Cleveland defense ranked dead last in DVOA, making them the least efficient defense in the league. They entered 16th against the pass and 32nd against the run.
Those numbers will not be trending up as the Woods-led defense allowed a fourth round rookie in Bailey Zappe to drop over 300 yards passing on them. They also allowed over 100 yards rushing again, which has become too consistent of a theme for this unit.
There are no more excuses left out there for Woods. He had his unit firing as a top-10 unit at the end of last season, but this type of regression and effort is nothing but a reflection of the man guiding them. The bye week is two weeks away for the Browns, but with back-to-back games against division rivals that could save the season in Cleveland, they have no margin for error.
The same goes for Priefer’s special teams units as they managed to produce two costly mishaps at the end of the game when Cleveland still had a chance to fight back. An onside kick where A.J. Green touched the ball while out of bounds that would have been otherwise recovered by the Browns, then a muffed punt where Green once again vacated the gunner and allowed them to crowd punt returner Chester Rogers’ space.
Pile these on top of crucial missed kicks, poorly downed punts that could have rolled inside the five-yard line, and a blown onside kick in Week 2, these Priefer-led units are too prone to mistakes.
Again, the Browns have a back-to-back stretch against AFC North rivals, two teams that have shown vulnerability. However, the Browns need something to change, something to ignite a spark in this team. With this thin of a margin for error, there is little reason to continue to run it back with the current arrangement.
It is time for Stefanski to do the most difficult part of his job and fire his friends.
Story originally appeared on Browns Wire
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Sorry, but I lost interest in Cleveland baseball when the Dolan's caved and changed the Indians name. I can't support a "woke" ownership.
Sorry, but I lost interest in Cleveland baseball when the Dolan's caved and changed the Indians name. I can't support a "woke" ownership.
"Woke" is way worse than treason, racism, pathological lying, ect...
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Maybe curses are real.
The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken.
The Browns were cursed when Modell fired Paul Brown. The Browns shoulda forced Modell take the name colors and curse with him to Baltimore, and the new franchise in Cleveland be given a new start with a new name.
The Cavs have no curse attached to them, and lo and behold they win a title for our great city.
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I'll post my goofy opinion over here, too:
I might watch this game live. Only because I'm wearing a big grey boot - broken toe. dammit.
Obviously to all, buttichek knows that Chubb is awesome and he'll work on stopxx, I mean, limiting him to as few yards near 90-100 as possible.
I think this game comes down to Devin McCourty, Kyle Duggar, and Jabril Peppers - if they can frustrate Brissett and nab some interceptions etc, that could be the way they win.
For the pats, if mac jones and damien harris, rb, can't go - Zappe can flat out play, too -
and at rb, Rhomondre Stevenson (?) is a serious big bruiser.
In a game of chess, the Browns may end up playing checkers and buttichek may look "brilliant" again.
Should be pretty interesting.
How about that GUARDINDIANS WIN LAST NIGHT EH ????? WOW !
In a game of chess, the Browns may end up playing checkers and buttichek may look "brilliant" again.
My bad. Steph is very, very bad at checkers, too.
I mean, seriously, folks. Bissett is 6'4" and they can't get a qb sneak on 4th and 1? Passes batted down? Ain't just Baker.......something else is wrong. I believe Step has risen to the level of his incompetence, and beyond. Zappe - over 300 yards and two TD's, no ints.
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Sorry, but I lost interest in Cleveland baseball when the Dolan's caved and changed the Indians name. I can't support a "woke" ownership.
"Woke" is way worse than treason, racism, pathological lying, ect...
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Totally shitty coaching, through and through absolutely terrible coaching.
Preparation terrible
In game decisions terrible
Personal decisions terrible
Kevin needs to be GONE
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At least the INT comes early this game
There were plenty more after the first one. Not just Jacoby stunk.... That was an utter failure in all three phases.. Offense, defense, and special teams. Throw in bad coaching too... Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.
It's only the third time in attending probably 100+ Browns game I've ever walked out early. I only hope that total stink job by the Cleveland Clowns- er Browns has washed the bad karma out into the lake in time for the Guardians playoff game tonight.
Yeah, time to rack up- with a little lyric change of a Guns n Roses tune.... Welcome to the basement...
Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.
Nah, I agree with going for 2 right then and there. That way you know where you stand...and MAYBE can do something about it. If you wait until the end of the game then it's too late if you don't convert...you can't do anything about it then.
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