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  • @browns149 said:

    A lot of people have just stopped caring anymore 

    I think most of us knew that the season was an uphill battle when Watson's suspension went from 6 games to 11, and once we went 2-3 through the easy part of the schedule their suspicions were confirmed. 

    I missed two games completely (Carolina and Atlanta) and will miss another Browns game in November. I hung out with friends in Erie, PA Saturday and didn't get back home until 3 today (I did watch it when I got home) but there was no urgency for me to get home today by gametime. I probably would go a decade before I'd miss three Browns games, but honestly, I'm not losing sleep over it. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think most of us knew that the season was an uphill battle when Watson's suspension went from 6 games to 11, and once we went 2-3 through the easy part of the schedule their suspicions were confirmed. 

    I missed two games completely (Carolina and Atlanta) and will miss another Browns game in November. I hung out with friends in Erie, PA Saturday and didn't get back home until 3 today (I did watch it when I got home) but there was no urgency for me to get home today by gametime. I probably would go a decade before I'd miss three Browns games, but honestly, I'm not losing sleep over it. 

    Sorry but I ran out of.   agree options today    or you would have got one !

    GO GUARDIANS  !       We still love you BROWNS. 

  • Ya know, of all of the angles they showed of the onside kick, I never saw one that showed AJ Green's right hand touch the ball.  In order to overturn a call, don't you need the video evidence?

    @orion said:

    Ya know, of all of the angles they showed of the onside kick, I never saw one that showed AJ Green's right hand touch the ball.  In order to overturn a call, don't you need the video evidence?

    One angle made me think he obviously touched the ball, but then the other it looks like his hands are everywhere around the ball except actually touching it! 

    His reaction on the sideline makes me think he knows he did touch it, though. 

  • Agree with most on Stef.. 

    Stef needs to pass his play call card to Van Pelt.. but, who puts their HC'ing job on the line with someone else doing the only thing (he) thinks he knows?

    Come to think of it ?

    I've never seen him use a blue video tablet to coach anything.. 

    btw, What's former HC/DC friend of Stef, Mike Zimmer doing? A swift kick in the as$ might be what this defense deserves..   

    @gumby73 said:

    Agree with most on Stef.. 

    Stef needs to pass his play call card to Van Pelt.. but, who puts their HC'ing job on the line with someone else doing the only thing (he) thinks he knows?

    Come to think of it ?

    I've never seen him use a blue video tablet to coach anything.. 

    btw, What's former HC/DC friend of Stef, Mike Zimmer doing? A swift kick in the as$ might be what this defense deserves..   

    100% agree he needs to relinquish playcalling and focus on running this under performing mess. He also needs to fire his friend Woods now. 

  • @bob806 said:

    I think a lot of people choose to vent on FB & Twitter. I showed my coworkers this forum over 15 years ago and they thought it was "ok" for "old guys" haha. 

    I like it here way better,except for the silly political references.

    Supposedly talking about politics on the Browns board is a no go, but that seems to depend on who is doing it. 

    But message boards like these are pretty much dinosaurs. I bet the vast majority of posts on here are made by people who are 60 and older. I can't imagine this board being around by the start of the next decade. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Supposedly talking about politics on the Browns board is a no go, but that seems to depend on who is doing it. 

    But message boards like these are pretty much dinosaurs. I bet the vast majority of posts on here are made by people who are 60 and older. I can't imagine this board being around by the start of the next decade. 

    60 and over ?   Why because you have to go to work tomorrow morning  ?  😆   

    Better remember to set your alarm junior.   

  • Ya know, of all of the angles they showed of the onside kick, I never saw one that showed AJ Green's right hand touch the ball.  In order to overturn a call, don't you need the video evidence?

    @orion said:

    Ya know, of all of the angles they showed of the onside kick, I never saw one that showed AJ Green's right hand touch the ball.  In order to overturn a call, don't you need the video evidence?

    I didn't see it, but it's hilarious we almost did something good and once again screwed up. I almost died laughing when I heard we muffed the punt down 9. I mean, what is wrong with this team? And we have like NO big play ability. None. And can our defense or special teams ever score a TD? 

  • @browns149 said:

    A lot of people have just stopped caring anymore 

    I think most of us knew that the season was an uphill battle when Watson's suspension went from 6 games to 11, and once we went 2-3 through the easy part of the schedule their suspicions were confirmed. 

    I missed two games completely (Carolina and Atlanta) and will miss another Browns game in November. I hung out with friends in Erie, PA Saturday and didn't get back home until 3 today (I did watch it when I got home) but there was no urgency for me to get home today by gametime. I probably would go a decade before I'd miss three Browns games, but honestly, I'm not losing sleep over it. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think most of us knew that the season was an uphill battle when Watson's suspension went from 6 games to 11, and once we went 2-3 through the easy part of the schedule their suspicions were confirmed. 

    I missed two games completely (Carolina and Atlanta) and will miss another Browns game in November. I hung out with friends in Erie, PA Saturday and didn't get back home until 3 today (I did watch it when I got home) but there was no urgency for me to get home today by gametime. I probably would go a decade before I'd miss three Browns games, but honestly, I'm not losing sleep over it. 

    Yeah, we definitely knew it'd be very tough when the NFL totally screwed us with the Watson extension. Just think...originally we'd be getting him back next week. Can you imagine how much fun that'd be? But no. We get to watch our team and fans turn on each other while screaming for coaches to get fired. It's obnoxious and I hate it. 

    God forbid our defense win us a game against a 3rd string qb. And why can't we ever hit a big play? I don't know if he would've caught it, but Schwartz was open deep a handful of times, one would have been a TD. 

  • I didn't watch the whole game either. Started at 24-9 score.   We were outcoached on the defensive and offensive side of the ball and the one time Special teams could've bailed us out they messed it up then doubled down with a muffed punt.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Not even November and the game thread isn't even five full pages.

    Good times.

    At least there is completely unrelated to the topic idiotic "woke" comments, though, to really add flavor to what is a dumpster fire of a season. 

    A lot of people have just stopped caring anymore 

    @browns149 said:

    A lot of people have just stopped caring anymore 

    Based on the number of empty seats in the 500 level today, true dat.  

  • @orion said:

    Ya know, of all of the angles they showed of the onside kick, I never saw one that showed AJ Green's right hand touch the ball.  In order to overturn a call, don't you need the video evidence?

    I didn't see it, but it's hilarious we almost did something good and once again screwed up. I almost died laughing when I heard we muffed the punt down 9. I mean, what is wrong with this team? And we have like NO big play ability. None. And can our defense or special teams ever score a TD? 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    . I almost died laughing when I heard we muffed the punt down 9.

    In his defense he was looking directly into the sun. Maybe he should have just let it go if he couldn't see it.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Supposedly talking about politics on the Browns board is a no go, but it seems that it depends on who is doing it. 

    There's a section here devoted to politics, that's where that shit should be written. 

    I may be in the minority, but sports are supposed to be an escape from all that crap. I'm tired of the red/blue divide that is plaguing our nation (& occasionally here).

    @bob806 said:

    There's a section here devoted to politics, that's where that shit should be written. 

    I may be in the minority, but sports are supposed to be an escape from all that crap. I'm tired of the red/blue divide that is plaguing our nation (& occasionally here).

    When the boards split, I left here and went there. I started seeing political nonsense over there and I left and never looked back. Then I came here and found the the "political" board here and was like "fuck me". 

    I mostly only become part of online groups that don't tolerate politics,  race, etc. Those are some of the best groups to be a part of. 

  • N Neo

    @fy56 said:

    Maybe curses are real.

    The Indians are kicking ass the very year they changed their name. Curse broken

    They made the playoffs,  have 3 walk off wins, and you're still calling them the Indians.

    @neo said:

    They made the playoffs,  have 3 walk off wins, and you're still calling them the Indians.

    What should have I said...the Guardians changed their name?

    You're even an idiot over here.

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    One of the sources of alienation for many on this board was EXACTLY because I promoted what you just said. To me, the Browns went to Baltimore. The new team should have been given a new name and instead of Lerner and the NFL reaping $billions from our loyalty, they should have been forced to build their own following, their own history.

    With that said, there are no such things are curses. There is only stupidity, stubbornness, and in the case of the Browns, two lackadaisical owners so unaccomplished in football, so hungry to bring a SB to Cleveland that they fell victim to the very best of the NFL hucksters who garnered countless $millions by selling the owners on snake oil.

    Phil Sewage, Romeo, Hue, Holmgren and now Berry/Depo have the ear of ownership. "Just be patient, we are on the right course".

    Instead of hiring execs for their personal values, drive, passion and ideas, Lerner and now Haslam hired management based on their resume. The Browns need an upstart, a mercenary, a guy who bleeds football; a guy with a chip on his shoulder and hate in his belly. Bill Cowher V 2.0.

    Lookie here, the name, the move, and all that bullshit means nothing. There is a cancer within the Browns organization and it isn't going to be cured by simply looking for the next impressive resume. Whatever the fuck is wrong with the Browns, it starts with Haslam. If his ear is attached to charlatans, nothing on the field or in the locker room is going to change anything.  

    Tom I'll just say this- being at the stadium after the first quarter... Stefanski?  It was about as pleasant as feeling shit in your panskis. Baker blowing dead worms against the Patriots was probably the low point of 2021, this game may have succeeded at digging even lower than that level of stink.  🙁 I mentioned this was only the third time ever I've walked out of a game before the final whistle... 90%+ of the paying customers agreed with my POV....    

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    One of the sources of alienation for many on this board was EXACTLY because I promoted what you just said. To me, the Browns went to Baltimore. The new team should have been given a new name and instead of Lerner and the NFL reaping $billions from our loyalty, they should have been forced to build their own following, their own history.

    With that said, there are no such things are curses. There is only stupidity, stubbornness, and in the case of the Browns, two lackadaisical owners so unaccomplished in football, so hungry to bring a SB to Cleveland that they fell victim to the very best of the NFL hucksters who garnered countless $millions by selling the owners on snake oil.

    Phil Sewage, Romeo, Hue, Holmgren and now Berry/Depo have the ear of ownership. "Just be patient, we are on the right course".

    Instead of hiring execs for their personal values, drive, passion and ideas, Lerner and now Haslam hired management based on their resume. The Browns need an upstart, a mercenary, a guy who bleeds football; a guy with a chip on his shoulder and hate in his belly. Bill Cowher V 2.0.

    Lookie here, the name, the move, and all that bullshit means nothing. There is a cancer within the Browns organization and it isn't going to be cured by simply looking for the next impressive resume. Whatever the fuck is wrong with the Browns, it starts with Haslam. If his ear is attached to charlatans, nothing on the field or in the locker room is going to change anything.

    Yeah it may start with Haslam, but before that it started with Randy Lerner, and before that Al Lerner, and before that... .... lo and behold! ...Art Modell !!!!   

    The Browns pretty much sucked during the 90's ...and seemed to pick up where they left off when they returned in 99.

     It's gotta be a curse!!!  

    ....don't take me serious with this curse thing, just having some fun with it.

    I am serious about this though...

    Why did you have to mention Bill Cowher? You just reminded me that the steelers won today.

    Can you believe that shit!?

    We are tied with that trainwreck of a team.

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    At least the INT comes early this game

    There were plenty more after the first one.  Not just Jacoby stunk.... That was an utter failure in all three phases.. Offense, defense, and special teams. Throw in bad coaching too...  Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.  🙁 

    It's only the third time in attending probably 100+ Browns game I've ever walked out early. I only hope that total stink job by the Cleveland Clowns- er Browns has washed the bad karma out into the lake in time for the Guardians playoff game tonight.

    Yeah, time to rack up- with a little lyric change of a Guns n Roses tune.... Welcome to the basement... 

    @hoorta said:

    There were plenty more after the first one.  Not just Jacoby stunk.... That was an utter failure in all three phases.. Offense, defense, and special teams. Throw in bad coaching too...  Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.  🙁 

    It's only the third time in attending probably 100+ Browns game I've ever walked out early. I only hope that total stink job by the Cleveland Clowns- er Browns has washed the bad karma out into the lake in time for the Guardians playoff game tonight.

    Yeah, time to rack up- with a little lyric change of a Guns n Roses tune.... Welcome to the basement... 

    You were there? I feel for you. I walked away from the TV early with no regrets. Worst game I remember in my fairly 'green' 10 years as a Brownie

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think most of us knew that the season was an uphill battle when Watson's suspension went from 6 games to 11, and once we went 2-3 through the easy part of the schedule their suspicions were confirmed. 

    I missed two games completely (Carolina and Atlanta) and will miss another Browns game in November. I hung out with friends in Erie, PA Saturday and didn't get back home until 3 today (I did watch it when I got home) but there was no urgency for me to get home today by gametime. I probably would go a decade before I'd miss three Browns games, but honestly, I'm not losing sleep over it. 

    Yeah, we definitely knew it'd be very tough when the NFL totally screwed us with the Watson extension. Just think...originally we'd be getting him back next week. Can you imagine how much fun that'd be? But no. We get to watch our team and fans turn on each other while screaming for coaches to get fired. It's obnoxious and I hate it. 

    God forbid our defense win us a game against a 3rd string qb. And why can't we ever hit a big play? I don't know if he would've caught it, but Schwartz was open deep a handful of times, one would have been a TD. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah, we definitely knew it'd be very tough when the NFL totally screwed us with the Watson extension. Just think...originally we'd be getting him back next week. Can you imagine how much fun that'd be? But no. We get to watch our team and fans turn on each other while screaming for coaches to get fired. It's obnoxious and I hate it. 

    God forbid our defense win us a game against a 3rd string qb. And why can't we ever hit a big play? I don't know if he would've caught it, but Schwartz was open deep a handful of times, one would have been a TD. 

    Console yourself. Even if the ball hit him in the chest, Schwartz wouldn't have caught it. That guy has no business being on a football field. XFL practice squad, maybe. 

  • @hoorta said:

    There were plenty more after the first one.  Not just Jacoby stunk.... That was an utter failure in all three phases.. Offense, defense, and special teams. Throw in bad coaching too...  Going for two and fail? Thanks for keeping it a two score game Kev.  🙁 

    It's only the third time in attending probably 100+ Browns game I've ever walked out early. I only hope that total stink job by the Cleveland Clowns- er Browns has washed the bad karma out into the lake in time for the Guardians playoff game tonight.

    Yeah, time to rack up- with a little lyric change of a Guns n Roses tune.... Welcome to the basement... 

    You were there? I feel for you. I walked away from the TV early with no regrets. Worst game I remember in my fairly 'green' 10 years as a Brownie

    @korsou-dawg said:

    You were there? I feel for you. I walked away from the TV early with no regrets. Worst game I remember in my fairly 'green' 10 years as a Brownie

    I know the prospect of going to the Monday NIght game vs the Bengals with all the hillbilly Bengals fans flooding our stadium makes me giddy with anticipation. ☺️

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah, we definitely knew it'd be very tough when the NFL totally screwed us with the Watson extension. Just think...originally we'd be getting him back next week. Can you imagine how much fun that'd be? But no. We get to watch our team and fans turn on each other while screaming for coaches to get fired. It's obnoxious and I hate it. 

    God forbid our defense win us a game against a 3rd string qb. And why can't we ever hit a big play? I don't know if he would've caught it, but Schwartz was open deep a handful of times, one would have been a TD. 

    Console yourself. Even if the ball hit him in the chest, Schwartz wouldn't have caught it. That guy has no business being on a football field. XFL practice squad, maybe. 

    Let's face it- Billy B. completely dominates this franchise in terms of coaching decisions. IDK if he plays with a chip on his shoulder given the past, but you watched a guy playing chess while the other was playing Uno. 

    JB is regressing to the mean of a backup QB. Call him Fitzpatrick, Nick Foles, etc- great option for a 3-4 game stretch but obvious backup. I'm not suggesting this was some great mystery and I really hope he wants to stay next year in that role.

    Despite the failings today across the board, the defense of this team is the glaring problem. As I said previously, guys who have some good film look completely lost, disinterested, or otherwise bad. Garrett is getting doubled team at a rate egregiously higher than any other player in the NFL. I don't know the defensive staff from a hole in the wall, but it can't be worse than it is now. Kev needs to make an aggressive change-they have now allowed the most points in the NFL by 12. I'd understand if this was a plucky group of fill-ins, but we have multiple 1st and 2nd talents across the field. It's inexcusable.

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Console yourself. Even if the ball hit him in the chest, Schwartz wouldn't have caught it. That guy has no business being on a football field. XFL practice squad, maybe. 

    Me too man-stayed through the onside kick miss (which was still BS, but oh well) and switched to Dad mode. Hotel Transylvania was actually pretty good.

  • I was watching theBrowns game with no sound on my main monitor while I was alternating between writing some notes for a song and watching the Redzone in the second monitor, with the guitar on my lap. The sound? Of the redzone/music. 

    I think that 1h before the game ended I had moved the redzone to the main monitor. Apathy. 

  • N Neo

    @jiggins7919 said:

    . I almost died laughing when I heard we muffed the punt down 9.

    In his defense he was looking directly into the sun. Maybe he should have just let it go if he couldn't see it.

    @neo said:

    In his defense he was looking directly into the sun. Maybe he should have just let it go if he couldn't see it.

    And it appears as if he looked to see the defender at the last second as well. Just have to let it go there... Lot catch it. Have to. 

    BTW, I've never...never seen a more beautiful onsides kick and I've also never seen a player touch the ball while out of bounds when another player basically already had it. How do we do this crap? 

  • Well Dobbs coming in fixes the offense and Suh on defense.