Hunt on the block
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
I think it is a sign of the Browns don't know what the fuck they are doing.
The guy likes it here, he is a good player, he can help win games.
If indeed he has more value than winning games, our organization is truly fucked up.
He's a great player at a log jammed position where the Browns commit well over league average salary.
Holding onto him is akin to owning a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.
If his trade nets a pick or player this team can role into an effective IDL or WR, then it's a smart move with long-term benefits to the organization.
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And you can do a lot worse at RB3 than D'Ernest.
Hunt was always a luxury - and due to his salary next yr, likely won't net much in a trade.
Even so, better something than nothing. Late-round drafting is about taking shots whether we like it or not.. no guarantees there.
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I feel stupid for just thinking of this (thank you ESPN) but if the Browns keep Hunt for the season, and let him walk, won't they get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for him when he leaves for free agency?
If so, why wouldn't the Browns keep him?
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I feel stupid for just thinking of this (thank you ESPN) but if the Browns keep Hunt for the season, and let him walk, won't they get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for him when he leaves for free agency?
If so, why wouldn't the Browns keep him?
I feel stupid for just thinking of this (thank you ESPN) but if the Browns keep Hunt for the season, and let him walk, won't they get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for him when he leaves for free agency?
If so, why wouldn't the Browns keep him?
And I think you can know the compensatory pick before hand, so you only accept trades above that value.
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I feel stupid for just thinking of this (thank you ESPN) but if the Browns keep Hunt for the season, and let him walk, won't they get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for him when he leaves for free agency?
If so, why wouldn't the Browns keep him?
And I think you can know the compensatory pick before hand, so you only accept trades above that value.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
I think it is a sign of the Browns don't know what the fuck they are doing.
The guy likes it here, he is a good player, he can help win games.
If indeed he has more value than winning games, our organization is truly fucked up.
He's a great player at a log jammed position where the Browns commit well over league average salary.
Holding onto him is akin to owning a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.
If his trade nets a pick or player this team can role into an effective IDL or WR, then it's a smart move with long-term benefits to the organization.
f his trade nets a pick or player this team can role into an effective IDL or WR
Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the string of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
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f his trade nets a pick or player this team can role into an effective IDL or WR
Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the string of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the rash of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
Woods has been a non-factor, and I'm not saying a high level investment in WR either. I'm talking about middle to late rounds, keep the bottom 1/3 of the roster turning to find talent that can help as the season drags on. Coop has been a nice addition, DPJ is finally consistently contributing, and Bell has promise. I want more competition at that 4th and 5th spot, possibly even PR/KR provided Jakeem Grant doesn't come back healthy.
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f his trade nets a pick or player this team can role into an effective IDL or WR
Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the string of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the string of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
DPJ, David Bell and Michael Woods is not keeping me upgrade the WR unit if the possibility presents itself.
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Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the string of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
DPJ, David Bell and Michael Woods is not keeping me upgrade the WR unit if the possibility presents itself.
DPJ, David Bell and Michael Woods is not keeping me upgrade the WR unit if the possibility presents itself.
I agree that we can upgrade but I just don't see it a GLARING need. We still don't have good body of work on Bell or Woods. OL I think could still be the biggest need, then IDL, and LB. And nobody addressed Denzel Ward's health.
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DPJ, David Bell and Michael Woods is not keeping me upgrade the WR unit if the possibility presents itself.
I agree that we can upgrade but I just don't see it a GLARING need. We still don't have good body of work on Bell or Woods. OL I think could still be the biggest need, then IDL, and LB. And nobody addressed Denzel Ward's health.
I agree that we can upgrade but I just don't see it a GLARING need. We still don't have good body of work on Bell or Woods. OL I think could still be the biggest need, then IDL, and LB. And nobody addressed Denzel Ward's health.
I wonder if Hudson is the RT of the future? I like the idea of continually adding OLinemen in the mid-rounds, and letting Callahan develop them.
If there's something this team has shown for years now, regardless of who is running the team, it is they have no problem investing in the CB position high.
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Steelers trade WR Chase Claypool to the Bears for a 2nd round pick.
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Unless I missed the news, Kareem Hunt will remain with the Browns for the rest of the season.
The Browns play the Dolphins in two weeks (bye this coming Sunday), and they just traded for DE Bradley Chubb.
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Awarding of comp picks is also based on the net of FA activity -- who you lose combined with who you add.
So if we plan to add more than one DT [and that had gd better be the plan] then comp picks won't really be a thing.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Awarding of comp picks is also based on the net of FA activity -- who you lose combined with who you add.
So if we plan to add more than one DT [and that had gd better be the plan] then comp picks won't really be a thing.
Awarding of comp picks is also based on the net of FA activity -- who you lose combined with who you add.
So if we plan to add more than one DT [and that had gd better be the plan] then comp picks won't really be a thing.
How does the cap situation look next year for the Browns?
I would think with Watson, Ward, Garrett, etc, the Browns aren't going to be a really active player in free agency.
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Awarding of comp picks is also based on the net of FA activity -- who you lose combined with who you add.
So if we plan to add more than one DT [and that had gd better be the plan] then comp picks won't really be a thing.
How does the cap situation look next year for the Browns?
I would think with Watson, Ward, Garrett, etc, the Browns aren't going to be a really active player in free agency.
How does the cap situation look next year for the Browns?
Projected 2023 cap - 225 // 2024 cap - 256
Current Browns 2023 obligations - 251.5 // 2024 obligations - 249.
So even after rolling over the 2022 cap of 33.6 to 2023, we get total free space of [225+33.6 - 251.5] = 7.1 to do all rookie signings and FA. Note as well that current 2023 players under contract is only 42. Bring on the UDFA's looking for playing time!
Should be OK after 2023 though, cap will rise 20-25/Yr for the next few.
7.5 dead in 2023 is thanks to Austin Hooper.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Only time will tell if it is a smart move. Should Chubb get hurt the day we trade Hunt, it would look a lot different.
My view is that you have to gave great players to win. There is plenty of shit on the roster to cut out before Hunt. That's my 2 cents.
Yep. This team likes to run the football having 2 or 3 guys that can run the football at a high level is not a luxury. Too many folks are caught up in a typical roster composition.
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I don’t think Tua is a franchise QB but I love what the Dolphins have done the past couple years.
accumulate draft capital and use to some extent to add players through the draft and to other extent add proven high end NFL talent.
Back to Tua, maybe they understand he’s not elite and his skill set is limited to some degree - so they surround him with two YAC masters Hill and Waddle.
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Why do people still think we need WR? DPJ has made plays when he gets the chance, Cooper is a beast, and we still have Woods and Bell. OL still seems like a need with the health of Conklin.
And when do we start to get concerned about Denzel Ward? Do people forget the rash of concussions he suffered at the beginning of his career? How many more can he take before he has brain damage?
Woods has been a non-factor, and I'm not saying a high level investment in WR either. I'm talking about middle to late rounds, keep the bottom 1/3 of the roster turning to find talent that can help as the season drags on. Coop has been a nice addition, DPJ is finally consistently contributing, and Bell has promise. I want more competition at that 4th and 5th spot, possibly even PR/KR provided Jakeem Grant doesn't come back healthy.
Woods has been a non-factor, and I'm not saying a high level investment in WR either. I'm talking about middle to late rounds, keep the bottom 1/3 of the roster turning to find talent that can help as the season drags on. Coop has been a nice addition, DPJ is finally consistently contributing, and Bell has promise. I want more competition at that 4th and 5th spot, possibly even PR/KR provided Jakeem Grant doesn't come back healthy.
We have Watson next year I think we have an enticing opportunity to add a free agent on $ friendly contract to compete with DPJ and Bell for targets.
UFA next seasonMarquise Goodwin Seahawks
Parris Campbell Colts
They both fit the Schwartz type- speed.
I personally like Darius Slayton Giants if the Giants move on. Good speed more polish in his game.
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