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  • Damien Martinez RB Oregon St.  runs a lot like Kareem Hunt.  I think he’s 2024 eligible but keep an eye on him 

  • That kid from Northwestern - Evan Hull - is an intriguing RB too. Kid can catch out of the backfield and is a load to bring down. Very strong lower half. 

  • Damien Martinez RB Oregon St.  runs a lot like Kareem Hunt.  I think he’s 2024 eligible but keep an eye on him 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Damien Martinez RB Oregon St.  runs a lot like Kareem Hunt.  I think he’s 2024 eligible but keep an eye on him 

    ya i watched him last night (to bad they lost) 3rd round pick ?

  • @nickers said:

    Parker Washington is nice but we have enough small dudes on this team..... I would love to have a fast megatron type that can out muscle people...

    David Bell 6'1, 212lbs
    Amari Cooper 6'1, 210
    Donovan Peoples-Jones 6'2, 204
    Anthony Schwartz 6'0, 186
    Michael Woods 6'1, 204

    Who exactly is the "small dude" of the current WR unit? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    David Bell 6'1, 212lbs
    Amari Cooper 6'1, 210
    Donovan Peoples-Jones 6'2, 204
    Anthony Schwartz 6'0, 186
    Michael Woods 6'1, 204

    Who exactly is the "small dude" of the current WR unit? 

    All of 'em.  (DPJ being the tallest)  They all look like little guys running around out there to me....though not quite smurfs.  I was hoping that Isaiah Weston at 6'4 would turn out to be a player for us.  I'd like to have a nice tall rugged wide out.

  • Tennessee gets knocked off, as does Clemson.... Alabama's playoff hopes are most likely DOA. 

    Big shakeup in college football today. 

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    Damien Martinez RB Oregon St.  runs a lot like Kareem Hunt.  I think he’s 2024 eligible but keep an eye on him 

    ya i watched him last night (to bad they lost) 3rd round pick ?

    @syd said:

    ya i watched him last night (to bad they lost) 3rd round pick ?

    He’s actually a true frosh so 2025.  He’s impressive and was lightly recruited.  It depends if he stays healthy I think he could could be drafted there.  Looks like has good vision and great speed. Haven’t seen his hands that much. 

    The other I liked last year Mohamed Ibrahim (Minnesota) Had an Achilles injury last season he’s come back this year though

    @dutch-oven said:

    That kid from Northwestern - Evan Hull - is an intriguing RB too. Kid can catch out of the backfield and is a load to bring down. Very strong lower half. 

    They mentioned his wrestling background today…wrestlers (besides having a screw loose in a good way) they have elite balance 

  • @syd said:

    ya i watched him last night (to bad they lost) 3rd round pick ?

    He’s actually a true frosh so 2025.  He’s impressive and was lightly recruited.  It depends if he stays healthy I think he could could be drafted there.  Looks like has good vision and great speed. Haven’t seen his hands that much. 

    The other I liked last year Mohamed Ibrahim (Minnesota) Had an Achilles injury last season he’s come back this year though

    @dutch-oven said:

    That kid from Northwestern - Evan Hull - is an intriguing RB too. Kid can catch out of the backfield and is a load to bring down. Very strong lower half. 

    They mentioned his wrestling background today…wrestlers (besides having a screw loose in a good way) they have elite balance 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    He’s actually a true frosh so 2025.  He’s impressive and was lightly recruited.  It depends if he stays healthy I think he could could be drafted there.  Looks like has good vision and great speed. Haven’t seen his hands that much. 

    The other I liked last year Mohamed Ibrahim (Minnesota) Had an Achilles injury last season he’s come back this year though

    They mentioned his wrestling background today…wrestlers (besides having a screw loose in a good way) they have elite balance 

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

  • Average wind speed during the OSU-NW game was 30mph across the field.  Interesting conclusion from that game is that Stroud can be a runner if needed.. I'm not worried about the score closeness because 8-man boxes won't be smart without similar wind.

    Not sure I'd want to go with the MINN kid, he's now been injured both of the last 2 years.  Don't sleep on Ford, I think he'll be a good-to-great RB2 for Chubb next yr when neither FA RB is resigned.. He's also got less mileage than higher-round RB's because he wasn't used as much in college, had to transfer from Alabama.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    He’s actually a true frosh so 2025.  He’s impressive and was lightly recruited.  It depends if he stays healthy I think he could could be drafted there.  Looks like has good vision and great speed. Haven’t seen his hands that much. 

    The other I liked last year Mohamed Ibrahim (Minnesota) Had an Achilles injury last season he’s come back this year though

    They mentioned his wrestling background today…wrestlers (besides having a screw loose in a good way) they have elite balance 

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

    the wind was awful I get it.  but…


    this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully.  We could ride those two to a title.   I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team.  I think that team exists up North unfortunately.

    This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game.  I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments.  The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades.  Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7.  Hero Ball.
     

    Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys.  Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements. 

    Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.  
     

    9-0 with some warts 

  • I was asked to do Jay-Quellin Roy from LSU a while back, was it Gumby?  So I'm sure I'll climb on his 2022 stuff in the next couple weeks.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I was asked to do Jay-Quellin Roy from LSU a while back, was it Gumby?  So I'm sure I'll climb on his 2022 stuff in the next couple weeks.

    Went back and Watch Roy vs Texas A&M, Florida and Bama,   came away really disappointed.

    - He's put on weight, either just naturally getting larger or the coaching staff has asked him to

    - Playing a lot more Nose/shade.  The weight has taken away most of his first step and the size with strength gains doesn't appear to be proportionate.

    - Playing like a 1 gap plugger, at best.  Offers little to no pass rush, even as a 'motor/effort' rusher.   Gets moved out of the hole quite easily by IOL with sound technique.

    - Didn't look any much better than what Neil Ferrall did around this same time last year.

     He's going to drop down draft boards from whatever high marks from flashes people like myself saw last year.  Might be a good thing, you turn him into a bit of a project who can contribute.  But as of this morning, he's playing like a day 3 pick.      

    This Corleone kid from Cincy on the other hand....   he's caught my eye.

    edit: @gumby73   In case you wanted my initial thoughts.  

  • @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

    the wind was awful I get it.  but…


    this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully.  We could ride those two to a title.   I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team.  I think that team exists up North unfortunately.

    This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game.  I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments.  The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades.  Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7.  Hero Ball.
     

    Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys.  Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements. 

    Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.  
     

    9-0 with some warts 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    the wind was awful I get it.  but…


    this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully.  We could ride those two to a title.   I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team.  I think that team exists up North unfortunately.

    This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game.  I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments.  The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades.  Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7.  Hero Ball.
     

    Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys.  Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements. 

    Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.  
     

    9-0 with some warts 

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I was asked to do Jay-Quellin Roy from LSU a while back, was it Gumby?  So I'm sure I'll climb on his 2022 stuff in the next couple weeks.

    Went back and Watch Roy vs Texas A&M, Florida and Bama,   came away really disappointed.

    - He's put on weight, either just naturally getting larger or the coaching staff has asked him to

    - Playing a lot more Nose/shade.  The weight has taken away most of his first step and the size with strength gains doesn't appear to be proportionate.

    - Playing like a 1 gap plugger, at best.  Offers little to no pass rush, even as a 'motor/effort' rusher.   Gets moved out of the hole quite easily by IOL with sound technique.

    - Didn't look any much better than what Neil Ferrall did around this same time last year.

     He's going to drop down draft boards from whatever high marks from flashes people like myself saw last year.  Might be a good thing, you turn him into a bit of a project who can contribute.  But as of this morning, he's playing like a day 3 pick.      

    This Corleone kid from Cincy on the other hand....   he's caught my eye.

    edit: @gumby73   In case you wanted my initial thoughts.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    This Corleone kid from Cincy on the other hand....   he's caught my eye.

    He made you an offer you couldn't refuse? 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    the wind was awful I get it.  but…


    this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully.  We could ride those two to a title.   I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team.  I think that team exists up North unfortunately.

    This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game.  I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments.  The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades.  Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7.  Hero Ball.
     

    Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys.  Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements. 

    Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.  
     

    9-0 with some warts 

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

    You shut your dirty, whoreish mouth. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    This Corleone kid from Cincy on the other hand....   he's caught my eye.

    He made you an offer you couldn't refuse? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    He made you an offer you couldn't refuse? 

    I'm very curious about how he became a Corleone, because he has very little resemblance to Al Pacino, for sure.

  • As of right meow, these are the draft picks the Browns hold for the 2023 NFL Draft:

    (0) 1st Round
    (1) 2nd Round
    (1) 3rd Round
    (2) 4th Round
    (2) 5th Round
    (1) 6th Round
    (1) 7th Round 

    (8) Total Picks 

    @dutch-oven said:

    As of right meow, these are the draft picks the Browns hold for the 2023 NFL Draft:

    (0) 1st Round
    (1) 2nd Round
    (1) 3rd Round
    (2) 4th Round
    (2) 5th Round
    (1) 6th Round
    (1) 7th Round 

    (8) Total Picks 

    Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    He’s actually a true frosh so 2025.  He’s impressive and was lightly recruited.  It depends if he stays healthy I think he could could be drafted there.  Looks like has good vision and great speed. Haven’t seen his hands that much. 

    The other I liked last year Mohamed Ibrahim (Minnesota) Had an Achilles injury last season he’s come back this year though

    They mentioned his wrestling background today…wrestlers (besides having a screw loose in a good way) they have elite balance 

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes that 1-7 now 1-8 Northwestern team really put up a fight despite being totally overmatched by that loaded Ohio State football factory. 

    The BUCKEYES might be the best team in the entire country......that NW team had me a bit nervous until the 4th quarter. 

    Fitzgerald might be the best coach in the Big 10. He doesn't get enough credit because their record isn't always good, but they always come to play with far less talent & blue chippers.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    He made you an offer you couldn't refuse? 

    I'm very curious about how he became a Corleone, because he has very little resemblance to Al Pacino, for sure.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm very curious about how he became a Corleone, because he has very little resemblance to Al Pacino, for sure.

    He doesn’t look like James Caan either 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    the wind was awful I get it.  but…


    this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully.  We could ride those two to a title.   I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team.  I think that team exists up North unfortunately.

    This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game.  I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments.  The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades.  Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7.  Hero Ball.
     

    Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys.  Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements. 

    Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.  
     

    9-0 with some warts 

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

    I’m at 50/50 now.

    It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.

    What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws.  Flat to the back and TE.  One of their TEs is out for the year.  

    The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep.  Can Burke hold up there?  They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time. 
     

    Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?)  Zach Harrison was especially  awful last year. 

    If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories. 

     

    On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play.  Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives. 
     

    More possessions better for OSU. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games. 

    I’m at 50/50 now.

    It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.

    What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws.  Flat to the back and TE.  One of their TEs is out for the year.  

    The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep.  Can Burke hold up there?  They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time. 
     

    Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?)  Zach Harrison was especially  awful last year. 

    If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories. 

     

    On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play.  Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives. 
     

    More possessions better for OSU. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I’m at 50/50 now.

    It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.

    What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws.  Flat to the back and TE.  One of their TEs is out for the year.  

    The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep.  Can Burke hold up there?  They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time. 
     

    Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?)  Zach Harrison was especially  awful last year. 

    If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories. 

     

    On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play.  Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives. 
     

    More possessions better for OSU. 

    Correct.

    I'd also add that it was glad to see Day call a few RPOs with Stroud vs Northwestern. Here I thoght he was a scardy cat and wouldn't run. Weird to see a Buckeye QB without mobility.