2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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the wind was awful I get it. but…
this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully. We could ride those two to a title. I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team. I think that team exists up North unfortunately.This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game. I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments. The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades. Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Hero Ball.
Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys. Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements.
Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.
9-0 with some warts
I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games.
I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games.
I’m at 50/50 now.
It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.
What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws. Flat to the back and TE. One of their TEs is out for the year.
The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep. Can Burke hold up there? They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time.
Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?) Zach Harrison was especially awful last year.
If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories.
On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play. Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives.
More possessions better for OSU.
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I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games.
I’m at 50/50 now.
It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.
What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws. Flat to the back and TE. One of their TEs is out for the year.
The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep. Can Burke hold up there? They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time.
Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?) Zach Harrison was especially awful last year.
If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories.
On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play. Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives.
More possessions better for OSU.
I’m at 50/50 now.
It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.
What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws. Flat to the back and TE. One of their TEs is out for the year.
The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep. Can Burke hold up there? They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time.
Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?) Zach Harrison was especially awful last year.
If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories.
On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play. Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives.
More possessions better for OSU.
Correct.
I'd also add that it was glad to see Day call a few RPOs with Stroud vs Northwestern. Here I thoght he was a scardy cat and wouldn't run. Weird to see a Buckeye QB without mobility.
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the wind was awful I get it. but…
this is a great finesse team with one of the best WRs I’ve seen in college football and another equally as good that will come back soon hopefully. We could ride those two to a title. I think Day is pushing the “tough” identity and I don’t think this is a “nasty” team. I think that team exists up North unfortunately.This is the first time in maybe two decades where I’m not confident in the Michigan game. I think Michigan will take 4-5 yards all game on the ground and Playaction will work I don’t know if we will be sound in our assignments. The kid they have now is the best arm talent they’ve had in decades. Back to OSU game, I saw a 3rd and 7 play yesterday where we had four guys bite on Hull no containment by the DE and the Safety read Hull too- they had kid that probably runs a 4.9 scamper for 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Hero Ball.
Now if we decide to stick to our bread and butter. Deep crossers with 60/40 pass run split they will have problems covering our guys. Hopefully CJ Southern California Stroud can handle any elements.
Day’s play calls major point of frustration this year too.
9-0 with some warts
I hope I'm dead wrong, but I think TTUN stretches their win streak against Ohio State to two games.
I think
I'd like to think OSU has thrown the 3rd-in-b10 fewest # of passes this season in a bid to change their tendencies vs UM..
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I’m at 50/50 now.
It is the one game on the schedule this year where OSU has to win the turnover battle, not commit penalties and especially stupid penalties and tackle well. They can get away with being sloppy 90% of the time but not this game.
What I’ve seen from Michigan this year is they win first down on offense - it is usually 4-5 yards on that down and then it’s 2nd and manageable with their young QB making low risk high percentage throws. Flat to the back and TE. One of their TEs is out for the year.
The lower percentage throws are play action and chuck it deep. Can Burke hold up there? They’ve worked for them because the running game is working and they have had superior athletes most of the time.
Can our front seven not play hero ball and do their respective jobs (such as can the defensive ends keep their outside shoulders free and play contain?) Zach Harrison was especially awful last year.
If we are to win we need to put them in 2nd and 9 plus consistently get their offense off schedule. When UM has won over the last quarter century in this series it is with their run game sparking their victories.
On offense I hope the elements don’t come into play. Otherwise I’m confident on the condition that Ryan Day sticks with our identity airing the ball out and not running stretch run plays AND we have an enough opportunities we can’t have UM limit possessions by running 10-15 play drives.
More possessions better for OSU.
Correct.
I'd also add that it was glad to see Day call a few RPOs with Stroud vs Northwestern. Here I thoght he was a scardy cat and wouldn't run. Weird to see a Buckeye QB without mobility.
Correct.
I'd also add that it was glad to see Day call a few RPOs with Stroud vs Northwestern. Here I thoght he was a scardy cat and wouldn't run. Weird to see a Buckeye QB without mobility.
Yes!!! This too.
Great point I’ve yelled this out a handful of times this season
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It's looking like Houston is going to have two, quite high, first round draft picks. And we're vying for the 35th pick.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
It's looking like Houston is going to have two, quite high, first round draft picks. And we're vying for the 35th pick.
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Yes!!! This too.
Great point I’ve yelled this out a handful of times this season
Yes, it's that...that "Most Wonderful Time of the Year" ....... you know Thanksgiving, Christmas and unfortunately now the NFL Draft Days.
I still sometimes can't believe how our wonderful team ownership managed to mortgage the farm and then some to get a starting quarterback.
Geeezzzus H Christmas ?.
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It's looking like Houston is going to have two, quite high, first round draft picks. And we're vying for the 35th pick.
It's looking like Houston is going to have two, quite high, first round draft picks. And we're vying for the 35th pick.
Yes, and off-topic, why this Texans team allowed to have these picks when they played a large part into #4's dealings?
On topic, get us a speedy, mean ass LB or 2 in the draft. If we're shopping at Walmart for interior D linemen every season, at least get guys who can tackle besides our secondary.
We haven't had even a "B minus" grade at the LB crew since BB was here. It's a position of NEED & VALUE you stupid analytic idiot FO.
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We are one of 8 teams with 3 wins. And there's only one team with less than 3 wins. We are incredibly close to having the #2 pick in the draft. (if we had a 1st rounder) But with just one more win we could jump to the 14th pick (if we had a 1st rounder). But even though we don't have a 1st round pick...having that 34th overall pick in the draft is ALMOST like having a 1st round pick. Whereas one more win and we fall to the middle of round 2.
Just sayin'.
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We are one of 8 teams with 3 wins. And there's only one team with less than 3 wins. We are incredibly close to having the #2 pick in the draft. (if we had a 1st rounder) But with just one more win we could jump to the 14th pick (if we had a 1st rounder). But even though we don't have a 1st round pick...having that 34th overall pick in the draft is ALMOST like having a 1st round pick. Whereas one more win and we fall to the middle of round 2.
Just sayin'.
We are one of 8 teams with 3 wins. And there's only one team with less than 3 wins. We are incredibly close to having the #2 pick in the draft. (if we had a 1st rounder) But with just one more win we could jump to the 14th pick (if we had a 1st rounder). But even though we don't have a 1st round pick...having that 34th overall pick in the draft is ALMOST like having a 1st round pick. Whereas one more win and we fall to the middle of round 2.
Just sayin'.
The good news is - we might not need to draft another kicker if our STs Coordinator ever figures we don't need to continue putting the holder closer to the line of scrimmage than most other teams. There's a trend unfolding that we can only hope gets noticed quicker than the 12 men on the field trend. Even back breaking penalty flags couldn't stop that trend so let's see if we can't have better luck with this one.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
We are one of 8 teams with 3 wins. And there's only one team with less than 3 wins. We are incredibly close to having the #2 pick in the draft. (if we had a 1st rounder) But with just one more win we could jump to the 14th pick (if we had a 1st rounder). But even though we don't have a 1st round pick...having that 34th overall pick in the draft is ALMOST like having a 1st round pick. Whereas one more win and we fall to the middle of round 2.
Just sayin'.
The good news is - we might not need to draft another kicker if our STs Coordinator ever figures we don't need to continue putting the holder closer to the line of scrimmage than most other teams. There's a trend unfolding that we can only hope gets noticed quicker than the 12 men on the field trend. Even back breaking penalty flags couldn't stop that trend so let's see if we can't have better luck with this one.
The good news is - we might not need to draft another kicker if our STs Coordinator ever figures we don't need to continue putting the holder closer to the line of scrimmage than most other teams. There's a trend unfolding that we can only hope gets noticed quicker than the 12 men on the field trend. Even back breaking penalty flags couldn't stop that trend so let's see if we can't have better luck with this one.
Not ready to give up on York quite yet... Too much potential still..
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We are one of 8 teams with 3 wins. And there's only one team with less than 3 wins. We are incredibly close to having the #2 pick in the draft. (if we had a 1st rounder) But with just one more win we could jump to the 14th pick (if we had a 1st rounder). But even though we don't have a 1st round pick...having that 34th overall pick in the draft is ALMOST like having a 1st round pick. Whereas one more win and we fall to the middle of round 2.
Just sayin'.
The good news is - we might not need to draft another kicker if our STs Coordinator ever figures we don't need to continue putting the holder closer to the line of scrimmage than most other teams. There's a trend unfolding that we can only hope gets noticed quicker than the 12 men on the field trend. Even back breaking penalty flags couldn't stop that trend so let's see if we can't have better luck with this one.
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After a one game respite, the Panthers have benched Baker Mayfield for Sam Darnold.
This almost guarantees the Browns will not get a 4th round pick for Mayfield, which was conditional on him starting the majority of snaps at QB for the Panthers this year.
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Kareem Hunt will walk after this season. don't we get a comp pick for free agents that walk, depending also on who we sign?
Kareem Hunt will walk after this season. don't we get a comp pick for free agents that walk, depending also on who we sign?
Yeah, I think its a net gain/loss thing.
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After a one game respite, the Panthers have benched Baker Mayfield for Sam Darnold.
This almost guarantees the Browns will not get a 4th round pick for Mayfield, which was conditional on him starting the majority of snaps at QB for the Panthers this year.
After a one game respite, the Panthers have benched Baker Mayfield for Sam Darnold.
This almost guarantees the Browns will not get a 4th round pick for Mayfield, which was conditional on him starting the majority of snaps at QB for the Panthers this year.
I can't say with 100% confidence but when Baker Regan Mayfield left the Cleveland BROWNS I really felt that this might be his way of slipping out of the starting quarterback job to maybe a clipboard holding QB for a good team that had a good #1 QB in place.
I don't think that he wants to go through the rigors of the NFL grind year after year. He pretty much has his generous NFL pension locked up and he's still a well off young man.
Let's see what happens next, then I just might be 100% sure about this.
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After a one game respite, the Panthers have benched Baker Mayfield for Sam Darnold.
This almost guarantees the Browns will not get a 4th round pick for Mayfield, which was conditional on him starting the majority of snaps at QB for the Panthers this year.
I can't say with 100% confidence but when Baker Regan Mayfield left the Cleveland BROWNS I really felt that this might be his way of slipping out of the starting quarterback job to maybe a clipboard holding QB for a good team that had a good #1 QB in place.
I don't think that he wants to go through the rigors of the NFL grind year after year. He pretty much has his generous NFL pension locked up and he's still a well off young man.
Let's see what happens next, then I just might be 100% sure about this.
I can't say with 100% confidence but when Baker Regan Mayfield left the Cleveland BROWNS I really felt that this might be his way of slipping out of the starting quarterback job to maybe a clipboard holding QB for a good team that had a good #1 QB in place.
I don't think that he wants to go through the rigors of the NFL grind year after year. He pretty much has his generous NFL pension locked up and he's still a well off young man.
Let's see what happens next, then I just might be 100% sure about this.
I don’t know the head butting look at me thing he did during the postgame buffet line on a nationally televised game screams of wanting the spotlight back. You can’t have a spotlight or endorsements being the next Chase Daniel and he certainly doesn’t want to be popular (or at least I don’t think so) for making money doing nothing that’s actually relevant.
We don’t beat the Bucs yesterday with Baker at QB. We know that but unfortunately he doesn’t know that and I imagine he will try to continue to prove that he is a top half starting QB in this league.
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I can't say with 100% confidence but when Baker Regan Mayfield left the Cleveland BROWNS I really felt that this might be his way of slipping out of the starting quarterback job to maybe a clipboard holding QB for a good team that had a good #1 QB in place.
I don't think that he wants to go through the rigors of the NFL grind year after year. He pretty much has his generous NFL pension locked up and he's still a well off young man.
Let's see what happens next, then I just might be 100% sure about this.
I don’t know the head butting look at me thing he did during the postgame buffet line on a nationally televised game screams of wanting the spotlight back. You can’t have a spotlight or endorsements being the next Chase Daniel and he certainly doesn’t want to be popular (or at least I don’t think so) for making money doing nothing that’s actually relevant.
We don’t beat the Bucs yesterday with Baker at QB. We know that but unfortunately he doesn’t know that and I imagine he will try to continue to prove that he is a top half starting QB in this league.
I don’t know the head butting look at me thing he did during the postgame buffet line on a nationally televised game screams of wanting the spotlight back
Agreed. Mayfield is all ego. He doesn't want to take a backseat to anyone. He's Mr. Chip On His Shoulder. And it's his biggest problem (aside from height). He doesn't want to share the spotlight. Last year when he had Felton Wide Open, a yard beyond the sticks on the sideline, just 6 or 7 yards in front of him with nobody near him, he looked right at him, but decided to run it himself and didn't make it, forcing us to punt at a crucial part of the game....I lost faith in him. It's all about him.
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Jonah Tavai from SDSU jumped off the TV a good deal last night. Looks like a compact type of 3-5 tech.
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It is a bit hard this year. We need to toss out the top 3-4-5 guys from each position to account for our 2nd round draft position.
Here is hoping a lot of QB's go in the 1st round.
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