It's final. The Browns will always be a bad team and I'm done with them.

[Alendor]

please don't be one of those people bitching about leaving, just to be here a week from now like it never happened.

if you really are done with the browns, man up, leave the board, stop watching games, stop following the team. the less people with that attitude following the team, the better the browns fans as a whole are.

[hoorta]

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

REAL FAN = kbndawg

Who Needs this Fan =bugzilla

Not being mean ...but One Charm that Cleveland does have is the Die Hard Come Hell or High Water Browns Backer. I respect that immensely... So I figure about 50% of your fan base to be this way. The rest are no better than the Nomad like People who Jump from SF to NE to Pittsburgh to ??? Being a fan is short for Fanatic , and Its a DEEP Seeded love that is always there.

I remember the 80`s like yesterday The Steelers were just spinning wheels in the Mud... and I we were wondering If we would ever return to being "In the Hunt" Cowher Power was scrappy and drug us toward , and finally Too that Goal. Tomlin has stepped in with a great sense of urgency to continue. I will ride this till the wheels come off...then enter the Desert again one day hopefully for 40 Days and 40 Nights NOT 40 Years . Hang in True and Real Browns fans. You all are to be respected as FANS in the truest sense of the word.

One of the few Steeler fans that has a sense of history. And yes the Steelers did wander in the desert for 40 years- pre Chuck Knoll era, they positively stunk. Thanks for bringing up the Nomads- funny how all that Niner gear disappeared in the Midwest when San Fran went in the toilet.

What worries me is you have to be well into your 30s to remember when the Browns were any good for an extended time. I saw way too many Farve bandwaggoners! and Peterson jerseys at the game today. Back in the 80s we would have made those opposing fans so miserable, they would have left by halftime. And maybe that's part of the problem- it's not a game anymore- it's a product, packaged by the finest minds Madison Avenue can muster. No more Dog Bones on the field- no more cussing out the opposing fans- and God forbid- tossing beer at them, like we did back in the '86 playoff game against the Jets when the New Yorkers got too snotty for our tastes. To paraphrase the Matrix- welcome to the STERILE world. Hey guys, it's football you trying to turn it into a tennis crowd?

Oh, I feel Bugzillas pain. Yeah, sometimes I wonder if the coin & time (seven hour round trip) I'm spending on season tickets could be better spent elsewhere, if the product doesn't improve soon. Hope springs eternal- but I'm not- and I'm running out of autumns to see the Browns finally grab the brass ring.

[Vegasdogg]

I have been here a while now and I have seen my share of self-pitying, pathetic meltdowns. I could care less if you want to give up dude. '

Just know real Browns fans don't quit because they can't. They wouldn't even kid themselves that they could quit.

It's almost like quitting on immediately family. Doesn't happen.

Gay choice for a thread, by the way. Maybe next time you should write down your thoughts and not hit send.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@bugzilla said:

A few final thoughts.

1. The team quit on me. I did not quit on the team. It has nothing to do with this loss. It has to do with the fact that the players don't care. Every one of them except Cribbs and Rogers put in the absolute bare minimum to keep their jobs in the NFL. The Detroit Lions actually play their guts out every game. They just suck. I could live with the team is that was the case. The fact is Cleveland is the place where football players go to wind up their careers. I'm watching the end of the Packers/Bears game and both teams are leaving everything on the field. They are beating the hell out of each other. The Browns don't do that because THEY DON'T xxxxING CARE!!!!!! I they don't care why should I?

2. About being a "fairweather fan". That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Has there ever been "fair weather" for Cleveland fans? I've been supporting this team through the BUtch Davis era and the Crennell era so don't tell me I haven't stuck it out. I can take loosing seasons. I can take "rebuilding" every 3 years, but there has to be a point to it all. The Browns think their fans will be with them no matter what, so it doesn't matter how they play. Give up on plays? Don't worry. The fans will always be there. Miss 6 tackes on Adrian Peterson? Doesn't matter. The fans will stick with us. The QB lets the ball squirt out of his hand? Who cares. The fans will stick with us.

Well I am not sticking with them anymore. You want to know the only thing that is going to get the Browns in a winning mode? If they show up for a home game to find a completely empty stadium. The Cleveland fans deserve more than this. They deserve a team that willing to put everything on the field every play every week. This team will not do that. They will never do that. THE BROWNS DO NOT xxxxING CARE ABOUT THE GAME SO I NO LONGER CARE FOR THEM.

This franchise is xxxxing pathetic. The xxxxing winless Detroit Lions have more heart than the Brownies. The Cleveland Browns franchise should be disbanded. They are the worst team in all of professional sports because not because of their record but because they have no passion for what they do. None. Pathetic xxxxing assholes. xxxx them. xxxx this team. I can't even hate this team. It's like hating the color beige. It's so xxxxing bland who xxxxing cares. Seriously. Everyone on this board needs to sell their tickets and get out.

Please IP ban this turd. We don't need it.

[Fan Of STEEL 1]

Bandwagon fans are the worst. No big loss.

[Brownshirt]

@bugzilla said:

A few final thoughts.

I was 16 when the Browns won it all in 1964. I've been waiting longer than most. I was a diehard then as now. Wow like anybody cares cause you want to pick up your barbie dolls and go home and pout? Be sure to change your soiled panties.

[choco]

i love threads like this.....as if anyone really cares if you'd stay, let alone the post to explain why.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

@bugzilla said:

I grew up in Youngstown. Been a Browns fan since birth. Spent the first half of my life in Ohio. Graduated from Ohio State. I never thought I would say this, but even though I will always root for the Browns and hope they win, I am not going to emotionally follow the team anymore. I'm not buying any more shirts or mugs. If one of their games happens to be on, I might watch it if nothing else is on. I just don't care anymore. It's not the fact that they lost the game badly. It's the fact that I can no longer deny that this team will always be bad. They might have a winning season every five years or so. They might even get a wildcard spot in the next 10 years, but they will never be able to compete with the elite teams of the NFL. The defense will always be bad. The QB play will always be amateurish. There is just no passion to any of the players. They all wander around the field like they are just waiting till payday.

That's it. Bugzilla out!

good riddance. we're better off without you.

[FSG]

@inspecta said:

I would call the 10 year span known as the 80's a "sustained drop off"

Yeah, the same decade in which this 36 year old started watching the Steelers...

And the same Decade in which the Steelers won 2 division titles and qualified for the playoffs 4 times.

That's more than you have done in two decades.

[Kosar_For_President]

@bugzilla said:

I grew up in Youngstown. Been a Browns fan since birth. Spent the first half of my life in Ohio. Graduated from Ohio State. I never thought I would say this, but even though I will always root for the Browns and hope they win, I am not going to emotionally follow the team anymore. I'm not buying any more shirts or mugs. If one of their games happens to be on, I might watch it if nothing else is on. I just don't care anymore. It's not the fact that they lost the game badly. It's the fact that I can no longer deny that this team will always be bad. They might have a winning season every five years or so. They might even get a wildcard spot in the next 10 years, but they will never be able to compete with the elite teams of the NFL. The defense will always be bad. The QB play will always be amateurish. There is just no passion to any of the players. They all wander around the field like they are just waiting till payday.

That's it. Bugzilla out!

One game? Later...

Converted front runner Stooler fan.

[brownsfan72116]

This is the dumbest post ever, first of all, if you are done with the Browns, than don't log in and say anything about them. Just be done with them. Second, do you root for a team because they win all the time or do you root for a team because they are in your blood. If you are rooting just because a team wins all the time, than you are a bandwagon fan and move onto your next team....maybe the Cardinals will be good again this year...

I understand wanting your team to win, I have been a fan since the early 80's and have not seen too many winning seasons but I will never give up on the Browns. Do I get pissed and hate that they are always losing....of course, But will I ever just be done with them.....NO ....whats the point, to go root for another team so my friends think I'm cool.... I really don't understand your point here...

I honestly didnt think the Browns had any bandwagon fans because in order to bandwagon, we had to be good at some point...and we havent been in many years, 07 was a fluke and an easy schedule..... regardless of who you root for, you have to be a passionate and loyal fan, if not, you are just a casual sports fan and a bandwagoner

what is the point of rooting for a team only when they win?

anyways, since you are done with this team, you probably wont read my message, but good luck rooting for the Cardinals....

[TheJokersWILD]

i have threatened to leave the Board once but not because I didn't want to be a Browns fan. I will try to explain this the best I can, I see the BrownsBoard as a favorite club you and your friends like to go to (before the the smoking ban). Even though I am a non-smoker, I have places I like to go hang out even though there are people smoking and the smoke bothers me, after awhile the smoke is too much and I just have to find another place to hang out. The BrownsBoard is much like that, sometimes the smoke is too much to handle (Lumbergh, various trolls) and I just want to find a different spot.I know the trolls don't make up the entire board and most of the members are passionate Browns fans and are good people, that's why I decided to stay.

[TheJokersWILD]

Formerly Stone said:

Let me be the first to welcome you to the Steelers Hate board. They call it a Browns board but you will see that there is actually more topics and discussion about hatred of the Steelers than the Browns. And a belated welcome to Steeler Nation!

LOL with this Stooler Nation. There was Browns Country wayyyy before Stooler Nation[EDIT] What do you expect, this is a BROWNS board! Is it too late to add the FAIL button?

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@junkyard-dawg said:

Haha oh wow you've been here since the Davis era? Kid you haven't stuck **** out.

Not really since the return.

[AdaM]

Formerly Stone said:

What edit would that be genious?

You really are rich......you flap your gums, wrong more often than not....and then say "either way....blah, blah, blah.....you must want to be me just because you watch me play with my own poop!" Yeah....that's it genious, you got me!

How many years has it taken you to learn how to xxxx up the word 'genius'?

[AdaM]

@jadbf said:

Riiiiiggght,

you come her to talk smack and tell us how bad we are and then get hurt by a little name calling? and Maybe if you actually READ all the threads and just didn't skim the ones you felt you could use to say "THE STEELERS ARE GREAT AND THE BROWNS SUCK!", then maybe you would see there are a lot of people here who know what they are talking about.

because in the places I've predicted 7-9, and other things. I wasn't talking to you, so there wasn't any name calling.

Again, I just don't get why someone would come to another teams message board to pick on them about how bad they are and then get whiney when they get called a few names.

Definition of being a bitch.

[Kingphisher]

Formerly Stone said:

Let me be the first to welcome you to the Steelers Hate board. They call it a Browns board but you will see that there is actually more topics and discussion about hatred of the Steelers than the Browns. And a belated welcome to Steeler Nation!

Why come to a BROWNS board if you are a Steelers fan? It makes no sense. Are you bored with your own team and have no fan board of your own to talk Steeler football with? Or are you some introverted passive aggressive gnome that tries to ease the misery of his own life by ridiculing fans of other teams. Not getting enough Steeler love from Browns fans on a Browns message board? Wake up. You get ridiculed and called names because you are in the wrong spot to talk Steeler football. Steelers-Chick and all the rest of you obviously have WAAAAY too much time on your hands if enjoy hanging out on an opposing team's message board for "kicks". Trolls, hate mongers, and idiots like the one that started this thread aren't real fans and can go elsewhere if they don't like the nature of this forum.

[The Gipper]

@birddog1 said:

Excuse me but the bandwagon is how the steelers pick up their fans. That's why they come out of the woodwork like they did this year, Again!

And why they will jump right off when they begin to lose a few.

[The Gipper]

Formerly Stone said:

Another genious! Where do you guys get em?

The Steelers record for the 80's is over .500. The Browns record over the last 40 years is well under .500. What now Einstein?

What now? Now you take the records for the existance of each entire franchise. There is no arbitrary cutoff date.

You take the entire history.

I mean, doing otherwise would be as foolish as saying that mankind only appeared on this earth about 6000 years ago.